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This is improved, but it still reads like a magazine feature rather than an encyclopedia article. Accessibility and neutrality first, colour second. Sorry to be a pain in the rear. --Robert Merkel 01:31, 19 Jun 2004 (UTC)
It's not you that's being a pain in the rear. Deb 12:29, 19 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Could someone also please fix the chronology? First it says she capsized on Goodwin Sands' "south sand head" (why is this is qmarks?) and that certain people (but not passengers and crew) were rescued. But "After that, the Guttenburg continued on, only to become trapped upon the Goodwin Sands", at which time no rescue occurred. Eh? How could she have capsized and then continued?
Also, later in the article we have some hitherto unknown figures being spoken of. In one apropos of nothing "Isaac Jarman was chosen to occupy the retired coxswain’s position". Cox of which ship? Who retired? And how is Jarman (and his successor Charles Fish) pertinent to an article on the Guttenberg?
I've tried to clean this up a bit. Regarding the name, the source I added calls the ship Gutenberg, but this calls it Guttenberg. Either way, this article's got it wrong. As for Jarman, he replaced Hogben, the lifeboat man. There is a reliable source to confirm this, which also states Hogben retired due to bronchitis. Nothing to do with this shipwreck, so I've removed the whole thing. DoctorKubla (talk) 10:43, 13 May 2012 (UTC)Reply