Talk:George Floyd protests in Pennsylvania
Latest comment: 2 years ago by Arms & Hearts in topic Proposed merge of 2020 Gettysburg hoax into George Floyd protests in Pennsylvania
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Proposed merge of 2020 Gettysburg hoax into George Floyd protests in Pennsylvania edit
No indication that the Gettysburg hoax had the historical significance, lasting effects and/or widespread impact required to satisfy WP:EVENTCRIT and merit an independent article. While there was a lot of press coverage in the immediate aftermath of the event, I'm not aware of any substantial coverage published since July 2020. George Floyd protests in Pennsylvania strikes me as the best alternative target as it could reasonably be expanded to include a brief summary of this event, but George Floyd protests#Conspiracy theories or Antifa (United States)#George Floyd protests (2020) could also be possibilities. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 12:14, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
- Support - Makes sense to me, and I think this is the right target too. Maybe it can be mentioned at those other ones, but the merge target proper seems best here. Crossroads -talk- 06:05, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
- Strongly Oppose - The 2020 Gettysburg hoax was NOT an actual protest of George Floyd's murder. Let George Floyd protests in Pennsylvania be about actual protests in that U.S. state. Also, the 2020 Gettysburg hoax would have undue weight in any particular George Floyd article, unless edited to a few sentences, so keep it as a separate article. Minnemeeples (talk) 13:56, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
- This might be based on one or two misapprehensions. I think the fact that the hoax wasn't a protest around Floyd's murder is fairly evident, but most of our many articles on the latter subject also include discussion of related and adjacent events; they're mostly not just listings of marches and the like. Similarly, my proposal was for
a brief summary
to be added to this article, so if you thinka few sentences
would work then we're in agreement. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 19:51, 13 December 2021 (UTC)- Support for a few sentences that is careful to avoid undue weight. Thanks for the follow up and clarification. Minnemeeples (talk) 20:14, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Crossroads and Minnemeeples: I'll go ahead and carry out the merge sometime in the next few days unless there are any objections. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 18:16, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
Merger complete. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 20:21, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Crossroads and Minnemeeples: I'll go ahead and carry out the merge sometime in the next few days unless there are any objections. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 18:16, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support for a few sentences that is careful to avoid undue weight. Thanks for the follow up and clarification. Minnemeeples (talk) 20:14, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
- This might be based on one or two misapprehensions. I think the fact that the hoax wasn't a protest around Floyd's murder is fairly evident, but most of our many articles on the latter subject also include discussion of related and adjacent events; they're mostly not just listings of marches and the like. Similarly, my proposal was for
