Talk:Gene Simmons/Archive 2

Archive 1

Archive 2

Infobox instruments

As a musician Simmons is known for his vocals and bass (and obviously stage antics); guitar, piano, and drums should be removed from the infobox. Unles anyone make a convincing argument I will remove them in 48 hours. -J04n (talk) 20:30, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.co.uk/page/News?news_id=92711 well, here he says that he composes songs on guitar and piano, that's enough i guess. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.196.242.136 (talk) 11:44, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

I disagree, the infobox is a summation of the info in the article and gives the main points about the artist. It is there for the reader who isn't going to read the article to get a feel for the subject. Putting guitar and piano in there puts too high an emphasis on something that is a very minor aspect of this artist. J04n(talk page) 14:54, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

jesus, it's the instruments section, nothing mor nothing less, in john entwistles article it's mentioned that he plays jew's harp and horn, so give gene his piano and guitar. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.173.170.239 (talk) 16:40, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

External link section

The external link section is getting quite long. Accoding to Wikipedia:External links the only link in this section that should be included is the first, his official website. There are currently 5 links to interviews (one of them in 4 separate parts so really 8 links), and a link to his IMDb page, that I want to delete but I will wait a couple of days to see if anyone points out that I am misinterpreting the external link guidelines. -J04n (talk) 15:35, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

typos?

The quote: "The record industry is dead. It's six feet underground and unfortunately the fans have done this. The previous generation was allowed to download music for free. You can't be surprised that there are no chickens and eggs when you let the fox in the henhouse." Shouldn't it read "The previous generation was not allowed to download music for free. " ?? Otherwise it makes no sense. Kingturtle (talk) 18:07, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

I checked the reference and suprise it's misquoted, I'll fix it. BTW, nice job in cleaning up that section, I agree the tounge stuff did not belong. J04n(talk page) 18:14, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Instruments/more info on bass

Why is it just mentioned twice that he's a bassist? I thought thats what made gene, gene. Not the full page of TV appearances. Wiggl3sLimited (talk) 23:20, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree, there is also only a paragraph-and-a-half dealing with him as a member of Kiss. I have meant to rewrite this page several times but just don't have any good sourced material on him as a musician. It is interesting that Peter and Ace have much more info on them as members of Kiss than Gene and Paul. I am the guilty party in making that table of TV appearances, but if you saw all of the bullet points (all formatted differently) that were there before you would understand why. Feel free to add more on him as a musician, it is needed. J04n(talk page) 23:49, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

" . . . don't have any good sourced material on him as a musician" - maybe that's because he sucks in this regard. Sstteevvee (talk) 18:38, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Current living status

I noticed the article didn't state where Gene is currently living, so i added it, hope that was okay. Yonobi (talk) 03:43, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Actually, it does say it in the "Personal life" section. J04n(talk page) 03:36, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Just think it would be easier to find. Yonobi (talk) 03:40, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

That was already a pretty busy sentence. The opening section is intended to be a brief summary of what is in the main body of the article, so if you think it belongs up top you could put it back, but perhaps in a new paragraph? J04n(talk page) 03:47, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

No, you're right. It's already there, i just missed it. Sorry. Yonobi (talk) 03:51, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Sources

I tagged this as needing refs, IMDb is not a reliable source, hopefully the content attributed to them can be sourced from somewhere else.--Terrillja _talk 15:39, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Terrillja, I have to respectfully disagree with your tag on this page. I do agree that this page needs a lot of work and could be much better, however, stating his status as a living person and that more reliable sources are needed is overstated in this case. The IMDb references are on completely innocent non-libelous items (mostly sit-com guest appearances). Not even Gene is libelous enough to sue over us saying he appeared on Ugly Betty. The more meaty statements on this page are sourced to NPR, the Associated Press, law.com, and his own website. Unless others agree with you or you make a more compelling case I will remove the tag in 48 hours. J04n(talk page) 20:44, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Clothing line?

Shouldn't we mention the Gene Simmons Moneybag clothing line? [4] 209.105.207.151 (talk) 06:09, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

that 70s show

it says he was on it in 2009 that 70s show ended 06 (or 07 cant rmemeber) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.58.179.251 (talk) 07:29, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Creepy styling of the KISS name

Just registering a protest on the way the band name is stylized. There is, to my mind, all the difference in the world between 1) deferring to trademark to the point of spelling out something like BLAZE ORANGE or styling Macy's as Macy*s--versus using upper/lower characters in KISS. And if we do this, then it should be AC/DC [and don't get on me about how it's about how the word/name is pronounced; there are tons of acronyms that are pronounced as words, but still commonly spelled out].

I'm a good stylistic soldier, but this looks uncommonly odd. That likely marks me as a creature of the 1970s, but still...Kiss? Really?

Yeah... just a voice crying in the wilderness.Scooge (talk) 00:54, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

School Teacher past??

I'm surprised that there has been no mention of Gene Simmons' past experience as a school teacher. I have read comments of this in the past, including an interview (Playboy?) by him in which he detailed a sexual encounter with a fan who turned out to be one of his former middle school students. His obvious intelligence has been well-touted with reference to speaking four languages fluently, and a mention in this article that he attended a local junior college. But to have become a certified school teacher he would have had to graduate from a program with a bachelor degree. How long & where did he teach? What subject(s)? What was his major field of study, and where / when did he graduate? This will add an interesting facet to an already very fascinating person, artist & celebrity. Dirty Dan the Man (talk) 03:52, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Gene taught the 6th grade at P.S. 75 in the Spanish Harlem section of New York City, on the upper West Side of Manhattan. As I recall, it wasn't for very long, maybe a year. I don't know what subject(s), but I would guess he taught whatever was needed. Elsquared (talk) 08:26, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

The Wolfman.

I read that Gene is providing the voice in the remake of The Wolfman (2010). There's nothing on this page about this. I just thought you might like to know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.158.230.236 (talk) 17:12, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Other names

I think it's worthy to note some of Gene's other aliases in the infobox (The Demon, God of Thunder, Dr. Love) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.167.131.239 (talk) 02:48, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

I think 'The Demon' is more of a persona than a nickname and the other two are just songs he sings, I wouldn't consider them nicknames at all. J04n(talk page) 10:16, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

In Family Jewels he refers to himself as all three. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.167.131.239 (talk) 21:52, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Musical genres

Gene is well known for his contributions to rock music. That is why I think that the heavy metal genre should be removed from the info box unless anyone can present a good argument against it. The Kiss records of the 80's has much in common with hard rock. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.62.154.250 (talk) 03:43, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

4,600,000 women?

Anyone wanna point out how this would mean thatd he would have to have had sex with roughly 211 women a day from the day he was born or just delete it?93.186.23.200 (talk) 20:54, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Plain old vandalism. I'll revert it. Rodhullandemu 21:23, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Kiss and Tell

Didn't Gene Simmons also write a book called "Kiss and Tell"?--80.136.99.29 (talk) 11:19, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Where exactly is the verification of his specific status as an American?

Is he American? Citizen? Green Card? Student Visa? Is there a citation for him being American? Where exactly is the verification of his specific status as an American?

He was born in Israel, that makes him an Israeli citizen. --Mikeyasadie (talk) 21:39, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

"Israeli-American" has been in the article for a long time.

Why do some people want to censor this? It seems like "Israeli-American" has been in the article for a long time. Now everyone is like - no way! take it out of there! --Mikeyasadie (talk) 21:39, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

It's not censorship. It's just against guidelines to include it in the lead. It's adequately covered in the article.—Kww(talk) 21:40, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Maybe he was born in Kenya?

I have not seen his Israeli birth certificate. Maybe he was born in Kenya and then secretly shipped to Israel. He was educated in Hebrew speaking schools. Is he a Jew or is that a conspiracy theory? --Mikeyasadie (talk) 21:54, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

And here is the land of my birth - Haifa, Israel. Believe it or not, I recognize my birthplace hospital by the seashore.

Mar 28th- And here is the land of my birth - Haifa, Israel. Believe it or not, I recognize my birthplace hospital by the seashore. http://www.genesimmons.com

--Mikeyasadie (talk) 22:16, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Yes, please don't go on about it, he was born is Israel, that goes in the section below the lede, in the lede he is an American. Off2riorob (talk) 22:20, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Israeli-American

As You can see from the wikipedia article on Israeli Americans, he is listed as an example of an Israeli American http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_American ]].. He was born in Israel, hence he is an Israeli American just as Arnold Schwarzenegger is an Austrian-American for example.

I fixed the Arnold Schwarzenegger lead, even though it has a better chance of being required there. MOS:BIO indicates that we generally shouldn't include ethnicity in the lead. Is there anything about Gene Simmons being Israeli that actually contributes to his notability? Isn't he just notable for being a member of an American rock band?—Kww(talk) 21:39, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Arnold_Schwarzenegger is described as an American, have you got any citations that support his Israeli citizenship or dual nationality? He may well have a right to claim Israli citizenship but without a citation to support him having it we don't know and anyways that does still not make him an Israeli american in the lede like that it makes him a dual nationality American and Israeli. Off2riorob (talk) 21:41, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

If you are born in Israel, you are an Israeli citizen. It is not something that needs to be "claimed". --Mikeyasadie (talk) 21:47, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Actually, it is. Israel doesn't automatically grant citizenship to everyone born within its borders. The primary point, though, is that he is an American rock act, and that is what he is famous for. Israeli-American is an ethnicity, and he isn't more or less famous for being an Israeli-American that performs in a band than he is for being an American that performs in a band. His ethnicity is irrelevant to his notability.—Kww(talk) 21:53, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Actually, Israel does automatically grant citizenship to all Jews born within its borders and he is Jewish. --Mikeyasadie (talk) 22:03, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Then why have American there either? Is not that an ethnicity too?--Mikeyasadie (talk) 22:01, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Because "American" describes the frame of reference that he is notable for, and, as such, belongs in the lead. By the way, I've fixed your indentation levels in this discussion. Please don't just make all of your comments to the far left, as it makes things extremely difficult to read.—Kww(talk) 22:12, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

I thought he is notable for being a Rock singer, not for being American.--Mikeyasadie (talk) 22:20, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

We do, as a general rule, include that nationality in the lead. It would be an extremely unusual case to not have it.—Kww(talk) 22:25, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

You sure seem to be in denial that he is Israeli! Are you a birther claiming he was born in Kenya? --Mikeyasadie (talk) 21:51, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Don't make aspersions against other editors, please.—Kww(talk) 21:54, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

It is an aspersion against me. He is claiming although he was born in Israel and lived there for 8 years, that somehow he is unsure if he is Israeli. --Mikeyasadie (talk) 21:58, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Off2riorob made no statements against your character or beliefs, he discussed only the contents of the edits themselves.—Kww(talk) 22:12, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Yes, there are no aspersions. Thanks Kww. Off2riorob (talk) 22:23, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Why Elton John then?

Sir Elton Hercules John, CBE (born Reginald Kenneth Dwight; 25 March 1947) is an English singer-songwriter, composer and pianist.

Why does is say "English"? He lives in America. --Mikeyasadie (talk) 22:21, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Elton John is English, are you suggesting he is an American? Off2riorob (talk) 22:24, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Yes, He lives in America.--Mikeyasadie (talk) 22:25, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

It's a part-time residence in the US, and, you will note, he is not described as "British-American" or "American-British".—Kww(talk) 22:40, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Personal Life

In the comments on Gene Klein/Simmons' involvement in science fiction fandom, it is noted that among the fanzines (amateur magazines) that he published was one titled Sirruish. Gene was a frequent contributor, but he didn't publish this fanzine. I was a co-founder, along with Dave Hall -- it was to be a St. Louis-area sf fan group publication, and after the first issue Dave and I turned it over to Leigh Couch, who published it very successfully for many years. 75.146.148.87 (talk) 12:22, 2 July 2011 (UTC) Hank Luttrell 7/2/2011

Gene Simmon's SEX TAPE

I'm not surprised his 7minute home made video nailing someone other than his wife isn't mentioned anywhere in the article, it is as boring as listening to a chess match over radio. I mean, for someone to have been with over 4,000 chicks, he needs new moves!! lol 203.184.61.18 (talk) 01:18, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

His wife? Simmons isn't married. 80.217.50.247 (talk) 06:38, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

The name "Kiss"

As a former Kiss-fan I strongly doubt that the name is based from the name Klein which Simmons took when he arrived to USA. As I've heared it was Stanley that came up with the name and Klein does not translate to or from hungarian to kiss. Also, under the references for the statement is a link to a discussion board and I can't even find the information under it. 80.217.50.247 (talk) 06:42, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Issues with "Lead", "Early life", "Awards and recognition", and "References" sections.

According to the article lead and Early life sections Chaim Weitz (later Gene Simmons) was the son of Feri Witz. There are no references to this (WP:NOCITE) birth name, that is referenced here (under "Israel is still my home"), with the same spelling as his father. If the source is reliable this appears to be a simple misspelling.

Reference number 3 (Message Board – AETV Community – Real Life. Drama) is a message (forum) board, which runs afoul of WP:SPS which states, "group blogs, Internet forum postings, and tweets, are largely not acceptable as sources.", and will certainly be an issue when used on a BLP. The Awards and recognition section is also non-sourced.

Reference issues

There are many reference issues.

• Reference #6 is a bare URL missing part of the protocol (the h)
• Reference #33 thru 42, #44 thru 47, #49 and 50, #52 thru 71, and #73 are Internet Movie Database (IMDb) (many misspelled as IBDb) references. These references are named under the guidelines concerning identifying reliable sources specifically under the section usergenerated, which are generally accepted standards supported by policy. These "references" are used in the "Filmography" and "Television appearances" sections in info boxes but are unnecessary. All of the titles listed in the sections (with the exception of Red Surf (reference #38) are articles on Wikipedia. All of these articles use IMDb as an external link and not a reference although the ones listed under "Notes" below are references masked as external links.
• Reference #43 is to a user generated site (Blabbermouth.net) with no listed editors or authors, no editorial oversight, and a warning at the end of the web page, "BLABBERMOUTH.NET is run and operated independently of Roadrunner Records. The accuracy of the information contained herein is neither confirmed nor guaranteed by Roadrunner Records, and the views and opinions of authors expressed on these pages do not necessarily state or reflect those of Roadrunner Records or its employees.
• Reference #48 (planetmadtv.com)is both a forum and chat room site.
• Finally (as far as I have looked so far) there is a hidden note in the reference section,
  • As per Wiki policy all external links should be in "ref" form.
  • See Wikipedia:Footnotes for a
  • discussion of different citation methods and how to generate
  • footnotes using the, "ref", "/ref" and "reference /" tags

This is a directive that "all external links" can be used as references and are thus instructed by policy that it is acceptable to be cited as such and in fact "should be" cited in reference form. External links that can be used as references should be incorporated into the article (WP:ELRC) but external links that fail the criteria of reliable source can "not" be used as a reference. This is clearly explained in the external links content guideline and further WP:ELBLP raises the bar of acceptable sites. The issue of external links has also been covered by the essay "External links/Perennial websites" with many editors weighing in. It has been the consensus of the Wikipedia community that IMDb "is not" a reliable source.

• Note: Never Too Young to Die, Wanted: Dead or Alive (film), Wish You Were Dead, The Mike Douglas Show (tagged since 2009), has no references and apparently was created using external links only and can be tagged with; and possibly nominated for an article for deletion.

I did not place any tags or perform any edits at this time but opted to see if there are editors watching this article (and possible the articles listed under "Note") willing to discuss and address these issues. Also I do not want to make any good faith edits that are reverted for no or insufficient reasons. Bear in mind this is a biography of a living person so I will be aggressive as per Wikipedia policies and guidelines to ensure compliance in a timely fashion. If it is believed I have erred on any points I am open to discuss these. Otr500 (talk) 04:10, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Multiple issue template

There was no comments so I added a template to cover the issues above. I will remove the IMDb references, that are redundant and unnecessary, as well as addressing the bare URL's. Otr500 (talk) 14:28, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

I removed the IMBd references that were not only --NOT-- necessary (links to Wikipedia articles with references suffice), IMBd references are not considered reliable sources and certainly not acceptable (a template is a hint) on a BLP, and removed dead link and other maintenance. I have no idea what the hidden comment (all external links should be in ref form) concerns. I added a comment to this and if it means other than what I read it as saying someone can let me know. Otr500 (talk) 01:14, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Copyright fight

I'm curious as to why there is no mention of his public statement where he told the music industry to "Sue everybody." and "The music industry was asleep at the wheel, and didn't have the balls to sue every fresh-faced, freckle-faced college kid who downloaded material. And so now we're left with hundreds of thousands of people without jobs. There's no industry.", and the resulting fight with anonymous. I think it was a rather major point in his history and rather newsworthy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.236.97.151 (talk) 19:20, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

kiss to kis

Hungarian for small (either as an adjective or name) is written kis with one S and not kiss. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.101.36.125 (talk) 11:02, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Controversy

Why was the text removed, about Gene Simmons in "Family Jewels" says that "repairing cars is what Gentiles are for" ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.114.157.231 (talk) 15:08, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

I removed it because it was unsourced. A source would be easy to find to say that he said that. What we would need though is a reliable source that discusses it as a controversy. GB fan 15:17, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

I dont get it, what do you mean with "unsourced"? He said so in his own TV-show "Family Jewels". What other source do you need? If Gene says so, in public TV, isnt that credible? Why do you need another source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.114.157.231 (talk) 18:52, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

I have no problem saying he said that. This is a controversy section. Who has called this a controversy? Are there any reliable sources that consider this a controversy? That is what we need a reliable source for. GB fan 22:48, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

So when Jews are racist there is no controversy. Kinda makes me think Hitler was right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.181.164.106 (talk) 05:45, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

I never said that it wasn't controversial, just that no one has shown it to be controversial. A potentially controversial statement such as this only becomes controversial when other people and in our case reliable sources say it is controversial and discuss it. Are there any reliable sources that discuss this statement that he made? GB fan 11:50, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

The fact none do, demonstrates your consideration of reliable sources are otherwise. If Mel Gibson made a similar comment you would have plenty no? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.181.164.106 (talk) 17:42, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

I have no idea what reliable sources would say about a similar comment made by Mel Gibson, but that makes no difference. What makes a difference is what has been said about this comment. As far as I have been able to find is that no one has decided to mention that it is controversial. GB fan 18:32, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Name

Chaim Weitz or Chaim Witz? On Wikipedia in other languages ​​it says Chaim Witz. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.164.155.150 (talk) 16:29, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

In his new book Paul Stanley says that Gene's original name was Chaim Weitz. --Bloody Rose (talk) 02:46, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Wicked Lester: quit or became Kiss?

Either this is just poor writing, or it implies the wrong thing: "Simmons and Stanley attempted to fire their band members; they were met with resistance, and they quit Wicked Lester, walking away from their record deal with Epic Records." This seems to imply that when they met resistance, Simmons and Stanley quit wicked lester. However, the wicked lester page seems to imply wicked lester became kiss. Is this sentence just poorly written and it meant the OTHER band members quit the band rather than getting fired? This is unclear. Centerone (talk) 21:46, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Public statements and image

The last bullet point (as of April 20, 2015) looks like it needs some editing, in particular:

"The Kiss bassist recently made controversial remarks about Donald Sterling, immigration and depression (which he eventually backed off from), and now the Kiss bassist has another enormous statement to make:"

"recently" seems inappropriate since the article will be around long after those issues. "has another enormous statement to make" does not seem like it belongs in the text of the article itself (NPOV) but could be quoted from a source. Gwyner (talk) 02:32, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Republican

Why is Gene Simmons is a republican? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.244.204.66 (talk) 10:59, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Why Anti Gene Simmons?

It seems many of the articles are biased against Gene Simmons. Showing Gene had issues with NPR and Al Franken are clearly based on biased liberal views. Being a successful entertainer, business man and generally conservative, Gene is treated with disdane by those with different political views. Too bad there is not enough written about the fact that given his popularity, he is a decent man.

He is patriotic and good to his family. Not something many successful entertainers can say these days. The difference is many of those other entertainers proclaim to be liberal and get a free ride.

Unfortunately just the way it is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rickahight (talk • contribs) 01:36, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

It's called having a Neutral Point of View. WP:NPOV Even Gene Simmons is imperfect, and ignoring that would make for an unbalanced article. --| Uncle Milty | talk | 03:02, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Just got an email about this...and i agree with the first editor ...and in fact will be removing the section to this page to work out all the relevant ones that should stay - as per WP:NPOV WP:UNDUE, WP:ATP. this is way unbalanced with the majority of text negative....and does not meet WP:NPOV standards ...So lets talk about what should stay..Moxy (talk) 03:07, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

The racquetball and brownie stories are pretty trivial but all in all I disagree with the notion that there is a problem here. Each controversy is well sourced, if there is another side to story or if he's rebutted any of it then expand them. He's outspoken and been around for a long time, that's going to lead to a lot of controversies. J04n(talk page) 06:11, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

I agree that some are fine but there is clearly WP:UNDUE with the majority of this negative sourced or not...the article has to be balanced and this is not...We cant have the biggest section all negative + we are using words like "allegedly" this is an encyclopedia not a blog or a fan web site. Could you pls explain the benefit of having this section that deals with conjectures and random quotes by others except to deface the subject in question. Most article here are done by fans and have section like Legacy and influences, but here we have a section (the biggest one) devoted to posting ever controversy that has been mentioned on his show..So we have a section only covering 2002 - 2009 all negative. So what we need to do is decide what should stay as the article seem to be written by someone who hates him. Moxy (talk) 14:46, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

But that doesn't remove the bad to even things out. If you want to argue that some of these don't warrent inclusion, or add his side of the story fine. Looking at each one again I could see dropping the "un-named woman sex tape" since it doesn't seem that it went anywhere. Most of these aren't conjecture, the NPR thing happened and there is tape, he made the remarks against Islam, he was sued by Ward, he made the copyright statements (which BTW I don't think are necessarily negative), the Michael Jackson bit has the documented refudiation (although I can see that one dropped as it also didn't go anywhere. He markets himself as a contraversial guy and gets into contraversies regularly, it's who he is. I don't see this as written by someone who hates him at all, I've done a lot of the editing of this page and I'm a huge fan. J04n(talk page) 15:16, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

yes we should remove any unbalance as per WP:UNDUE good or not~~ ...that said lets look at this as i would a GA or FA review...First its not even in paragraph form we discourage bullet point here but that can be fixed in time..i have replaced the section minus somestuff..pls if you think i am wrong lets talk. Moxy (talk) 16:15, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

gene simmons is clearly a gross creep not worth defending so i don't know why you felt that there was any integrity at stake. this is just mind boggling. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.142.97.219 (talk) 16:03, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Controversies

• In a February 4, 2002 interview on the NPR radio show Fresh Air with Terry Gross, Simmons said to Gross regarding his claim to have bedded about 4,600 women: "If you want to welcome me with open arms, I'm afraid you're also going to have to welcome me with open legs" (paraphrasing The Who's hit song "You Better You Bet"). To this Gross replied, "That's a really obnoxious thing to say." Simmons refused to grant permission to NPR to make the interview available online on the network's website. However, the interview appears in print in Gross's book All I Did Was Ask (ISBN 1-4013-0010-3), and some unauthorized transcripts are also available. A part of the interview was re-broadcast on Fresh Air on Aug 31, 2007. It is noted that Kiss bandmate and co-founder Paul Stanley has frequently used the phrase "... welcomed us with open arms and open legs", and similar wording, in onstage patter through many years of Kiss concerts.
• In a later Fresh Air interview, satirist and future United States Senator Al Franken related to Terry Gross his own encounter with Gene Simmons. According to Franken, he was awaiting a racquetball partner at a club when Simmons, whom Franken had not recognized, challenged him to a match, stating "I'll kick your ass", only to suffer an embarrassing loss to Franken. Simmons responded by calling for another match, and when Franken indicated that since his racquetball partner had arrived, he couldn't play Simmons again, Simmons responded by making loud "boc, boc, boc" chicken sounds. Franken then offered to play Simmons with $500 at stake, at which point Simmons walked away. Franken told Gross not to blame herself for her experience with Simmons, and that Simmons' behavior at the racquetball club made him "the most awful person I've ever met." Not sure what is being said here its about a game and someone POV on him.
• In 2004, during an interview in Melbourne, Australia, Simmons described Islam as a "vile culture" wherein women had fewer rights than dogs. He described Islam as a threat, claiming that Muslims wanted to leave the Middle East and supplant non-Muslims in other parts of the world by force. The Muslim community took offense, with Australian Muslim of the Year, Susan Carland, asserting that Simmons' stereotyping of Muslims was inaccurate and that she never walked behind her husband as Simmons stated all Muslim women were required to do. Simmons later said on his website that he was talking specifically about Muslim extremists.
• In 2005, Simmons was sued by a former lover, Georgeann Walsh Ward, who alleged that she had been "defamed" in the VH1 documentary When Kiss Ruled the World, which she claimed portrayed her as an "unchaste woman" and implied that she had been merely a groupie rather than a committed girlfriend of Simmons. Ward insisted that she had been involved in an "exclusive monogamous relationship" with Simmons since before Kiss was formed. The suit was settled as of June 29, 2006.
• In June 2008, in an interview with AOL News, Simmons blamed those who upload and download copyrighted music for the hard times that the music industry is experiencing. Simmons was quoted as saying: "The record industry is dead. It's six feet underground and unfortunately the fans have done this. They've decided to download and file share. There is no record industry around so we're going to wait until everybody settles down and becomes civilized. As soon as the record industry pops its head up we'll record new material." This is not the first time that Simmons has blamed those who upload and download copyrighted music for the falling fortunes of the music industry. In a November 2007 interview, he is quoted as saying that "Every little college kid, every freshly-scrubbed little kid's face should have been sued off the face of the earth." all most all feel this way..so y does his opinion matter and Warrant inclusion
• In 2008, a video on the Internet surfaced which purported to be Simmons engaging in sexual activity with an unnamed woman. Simmons later stated that the tape was recorded without his consent or knowledge and that his legal team was pursuing legal options.....Needs to be updated

If it needs to be updated, why has it been removed all together? Are KISS fans trying to sugarcoat Gene's article by hiding his 7 minute sex tape? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.184.61.18 (talk) 01:22, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

• Simmons debated Bob Lefsetz in a heated exchange at Canadian Music Week in March 2009 about Simmons Records and the music industry generally. Both men had engaged in a controversial e-mail campaign against each other shortly before the debate...Ok what is being said here..He got into an argument who cares???
• In July 2009, Simmons allegedly made remarks about Michael Jackson following the pop icon's passing the previous month that the children who accused him of molestation should be heard as well. The Kiss frontman also reportedly referred to Jackson as "sick". Simmons' comments and accusations concerning Jackson were later said to be false by Jackson's former lead tour guitarist Jennifer Batten allegedly?? and latter demised as false....so y we mentioning this at all
• Simmons also contends that he has "never been high, drunk, or smoked in [his] life". (However, in Kiss: Behind the Mask, former Kiss drummer Peter Criss states, "It was dirty of us, but we just wanted to get Gene high [...] Someone made hash brownies [...] And he ate 'em." Simmons also refers to this incident (although he does not explicitly mention that the brownies contained marijuana) in his biography, KISS and Make-up.) So he has never willing taken drugs...So we list a trick by his band mates so we can say he did do them--come on this is blog trivia

References

Operation Payback

a few words about him here.Civic Cat (talk) 17:28, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Changes to this Article

To whom it may concern,

I am Gene Simmons' web master, and he has requested that I make some changes to some incorrect information on the Wikipedia page. Since I am a new user, I do not have access to editing the article. Can the administrator of this page get in contact with me so we can discuss my access to the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seanwills7 (talk • contribs) 16:29, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

False Information About Gene Simmons (please change)

I am Gene Simmons' webmaster. The following changes come directly from the source. All biographical information that needs to be changed will be in BOLD type.

Gene Simmons (born Chaim Witz; Hebrew: חיים ויץ‎; August 25, 1949) is an Israeli-American rock bass guitarist, singer-songwriter, record producer, entrepreneur, actor, and television personality. Known by his stage persona The Demon, he is the bass guitarist and co-lead singer of Kiss, the rock band he co-founded in the early 1970s. With Kiss, Simmons has sold more than 100 million albums worldwide. Can you please include the following in the above introductory paragraph: KISS is America's #1 Gold Record Award Winning Band Of All Time (all categories) (RIAA)

BIOGRAPHY

Early life Chaim Witz was born at the Rambam Hospital in Haifa, Israel, on August 25, 1949. With his mother, he emigrated to New York City, at eight years of age, settling in the Jackson Heights section of Queens.[1] Simmons was raised in a Jewish home where he practiced on his guitar hours without end..[2] His mother Flóra "Florence" Klein

Simmons' mother's surname was NOT originally Klein; please remove any information about the last name Klein. was born in Jánd, Hungary. The name Klein, which means "small" in German, has the Hungarian equivalent Kis (a common Hungarian surname); this, however, did not give the band its name.[3] Simmons' mother Florence survived internment in Nazi concentration camps.[4] She and her brother Larry were the only members of the family to survive the Holocaust. Flora had more than one brother who survived the holocaust. Change to: She and her brothers Larry and George were the only members...

Simmons's father, Feri Witz, also Hungarian-born, remained in Israel, where he had one other son and three daughters, and worked as a carpenter. Simmons says the family was "dirt poor", scraping by on bread and milk.[5] In the United States, Simmons changed his name to Eugene Klein (later Gene Klein), adopting his mother's maiden name. He was a part of Yeshiva Torah Vodaas in Williamsburg, Brooklyn as a child, from 7:00 am to 9:30 pm.[citation needed] Please remove EUGENE from the above paragraph. He changed his name to GENE, not EUGENE. Also, remove KLEIN

Before his musical career began, Simmons worked a variety of jobs in the city. An "excellent typist", he served as an assistant to the fashion magazine Vogue, and also spent several months as a sixth grade instructor on the Upper West Side[6]

The above should read: Before his musical career began, Simmons worked a variety of jobs in the city. An "excellent typist", he served as an assistant to THE EDITOR of the fashion magazine Vogue, and also spent several months as a sixth grade instructor on the Upper West Side OF NEW YORK CITY[6]

A significant influence on Simmons was the Beatles. "There is no way I'd be doing what I do now if it wasn't for the Beatles. I was watching The Ed Sullivan Show and I saw them. Those skinny little boys, kind of androgynous, with long hair like girls. It blew me away that these four boys [from] the middle of nowhere could make that music."[7]

KISS Simmons became involved with his first band, Lynx, then renamed The Missing Links, when he was a teenager. Eventually, he disbanded the band to form The Long Island Sounds, the name being a pun on the Long Island Sound. While he played in these bands, he kept up odd jobs on the side to make more money, including trading used comic books. Simmons attended Sullivan County Community College in Loch Sheldrake, New York (PART OF NY STATE UNIVERSITY - SUNY) He then joined a new band, Bullfrog Bheer, and the band recorded a demo, "Leeta"; this was later included on the Kiss box set.

Simmons formed the rock band Wicked Lester in the early 1970s with Stanley Harvey (HARVEY IS FALSE...DELETE) Eisen (now known as Paul Stanley) and recorded one album FOR EPIC RECORDS, which was never released. Dissatisfied with Wicked Lester's sound and look, Simmons and Stanley attempted to fire their band members; they were met with resistance, and they quit Wicked Lester, walking away from their record deal. They decided to form the "ultimate rock band," and started looking for a drummer. Simmons and Stanley found an ad placed by Peter Criscuola, known as Peter Criss, who was playing clubs in Brooklyn at the time; they joined and started out as a trio. Paul Frehley, better known as Ace Frehley, responded to an ad they put in The Village Voice for a lead guitar player, and soon joined them. Kiss released their self-titled debut album in February 1974.

(DELETE THE FOLLOWING LINES - NOT TRUE) Stanley took on the role of lead performer on stage, while Simmons became the driving force behind what KISS became an extensive merchandising franchise. The eye section of his "Demon" makeup with KISS came from the wing design of comic book character Black Bolt.[8]

In 1983, while Kiss' fame was waning, the members took off their trademark make-up and enjoyed a resurgence in popularity that continued into the 1990s. At this time, Peter Criss, the original drummer, had decided to leave the band, and a replacement was sought to fill the drummer's vacancy. The new drummer was Paul Charles Caravello, who went by the stage name of Eric Carr, and played for KISS from 1980 until his early death FROM CANCER at the age of 41 in 1991. The band hosted its own KISS CONVENTION in 1995, and fan feedback about the original Kiss members reunion influenced the highly successful 1996–1997 Alive Worldwide reunion tour, which became the number one world tour.

In 1998, the band released Psycho Circus. Since then, the original line-up has once again dissolved, with Tommy Thayer replacing Ace Frehley on lead guitar and Eric Singer (who performed with Kiss from 1991 through 1996) replacing Peter Criss on drums.

Stage makeup and persona During an interview in 1999, Simmons was asked about the source and significance of Kiss' stage makeup and personas:

I've always been a fan of Americana, and Americana has always been about imagery, often above content. I think there's nothing wrong with that. The world worships this culture. Most people only think about America in terms of rock & roll, movies and television. Kiss is very all-American, in the sense that our constituency has never had anything in common with critics... because our power, our lifeblood, our very reason for existence is our fans. Without them, we'd be nothing.

We would like for the POLITICAL VIEWS paragraph to be removed from Wikipedia

Simmons was a supporter of the foreign policy of the George W. Bush administration.[9] He supported the 2003 invasion of Iraq, writing on his website: "I'm ashamed to be surrounded by people calling themselves liberal who are, in my opinion, spitting on the graves of brave American soldiers who gave their life to fight a war that wasn't theirs...in a country they've never been to... simply to liberate the people therein".[10] In a follow-up, Simmons explained his position and wrote about his love and support for the United States: "I wasn't born here. But I have a love for this country and its people that knows no bounds. I will forever be grateful to America for going into World War II, when it had nothing to gain, in a country that was far away... and rescued my mother from the Nazi German concentration camps. She is alive and I am alive because of America. And, if you have a problem with America, you have a problem with me."[10])During the 2006 Lebanon War between Israel and Lebanon, Simmons sent a televised message of support (in both English and Hebrew) to an Israeli soldier seriously wounded in fighting in Lebanon, calling him his "hero."[11] In 2010, Simmons said he regretted voting for Barack Obama and criticized the 2009 health care reforms.[12] Following Obama's 2011 Mideast speech, in which the President called on Israel and the Palestinians to negotiate a settlement "based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps,"[13] Simmons told CNBC that Obama was gravely misguided. "If you have never been to the moon, you can't issue policy about the moon. For the president to be sitting in Washington D.C. and saying, 'Go back to your '67 borders in Israel' – how about you live there and try to defend an indefensible border – nine miles (14 km) wide?" Simmons also accused the United Nations of being "the most pathetic body on the face of the earth."[14] During his visit to Israel in 2011, he stated that the artists refusing to perform in Israel for political reasons are "stupid," referring to artists who canceled planned concerts in Israel.[15] In an April 2012 interview, Simmons endorsed Republican Mitt Romney for President, stating as well that "America should be in business and it should be run by a businessman."[16]

-- PERSONAL LIFE

Simmons is a science-fiction and comic book fan and published several science fiction fanzines, among them Id, Cosmos (which eventually merged with Stilletto to become Cosmos-Stilletto and then Faun), Tinderbox,

THE FOLLOWING IS FALE - PLEASE DELETE

Sci-Fi Showcase.... Mantis and Adventure. He also contributed to other fanzines, among them BeABohema and Sirruish.[17]

Simmons lives in Los Angeles, California, with Canadian former Playboy Playmate and actress Shannon Lee Tweed whom he had dated for 28 years.[18] HE THEN MARRIED SHANNON, AND THEY HAVE BEEN HAPPILY MARRIED FOR THREE YEARS.

PLEASE DELETE THE FOLLOWING TWO LINES He often joked that he and Tweed were "happily unmarried" for over 20 years (1975). He often stated, "Marriage is an institution, and I don't want to live in an institution.

Simmons and Tweed finally wed on October 1, 2011, at the historic Beverly Hills Hotel in Beverly Hills, California.[18][19][20] They have two children: a son, Nick (born January 22, 1989), and a daughter, Sophie (born July 7, 1992).

He formerly had live-in relationships with Cher and Diana Ross.

[1] Simmons can speak Hungarian, German, English, and Hebrew.[1]

DELETE BELOW PARAGRAPH Homecoming visit to Israel In March 2011, Simmons visited his birthplace, Israel. He described the trip as a "life changing experience". He talked about how he still feels that he is an Israeli: "I'm Israeli. I'm a stranger in America. I'm an outsider".[21] While there, Gene met his half-brother Kobi, and triplet half-sisters Drora, Sharon, and Ogenia.[22] Simmons has plans to take his band Kiss to Israel. He has always said that he is an ardent supporter of Israel.[23] At a press conference in Israel, he spoke both Hebrew and English.[24

Philanthropy Gene Simmons is a known advocate for ChildFund International's work. He traveled to Zambia during his "Gene Simmons Family Jewels" show to visit several of his sponsored children, of whom he has more than 140.[25] Gene said, “is a stark reminder that life doesn’t treat everyone the same.” [26]

Gene Simmons' family received the MEND Humanitarian Award for their philanthropic efforts and support for Mending Kids International at the organization's annual gala on November 9, 2013. The award was presented by Mel Gibson.[27] In his acceptance speech, Gene spoke of his own difficult childhood in Israel in a bullet-ridden house. He recalled his mother's excitement when they received a CARE box one day; it wasn't about the contents, it was about knowing that someone cared and that they weren't alone – it gave them hope.[28]

Other projects On August 15, 2013, Simmons, Paul Stanley and manager Doc McGhee became a part of the ownership group that created the L.A. Kiss Arena Football League team, which plays their home games at the Honda Center in Anaheim, California.

PLEASE DELETE ALL OF THE FOLLOWING Public statements and image In February 2002, Simmons was interviewed on the NPR radio show Fresh Air and asked about his claim of having had sex with 4,600 women. He told Terry Gross: "If you want to welcome me with open arms, I'm afraid you're also going to have to welcome me with open legs," paraphrasing a lyric from The Who's 1981 hit song "You Better You Bet". Gross replied: "That's a really obnoxious thing to say." At the time, Simmons refused to grant permission to NPR to make the interview available online.[29] However, it appears in print in Gross's book All I Did Was Ask (ISBN 1-4013-0010-3) and unauthorized transcripts are available. NPR re-broadcast part of the interview in August 2007.[30] In a 2014 interview with The Huffington Post, Simmons noted he was upset over what he perceived as Gross's "holier-than-thou" attitude, which included mislabeling his band Kiss as "The Kiss" [31] Simmons' bandmate Paul Stanley has frequently used the phrase "... welcomed us with open arms and open legs" in onstage patter during Kiss concerts. In 2004, during an interview in Melbourne, Australia, while talking about Islamic extremists, Simmons described Islam as a "vile culture", saying that Muslim women had to walk behind their husbands, were not allowed to be educated or to own houses. He said: "They want to come and live right where you live and they think that you're evil." Amongst ensuing criticism, Australian Muslim of the Year Susan Carland argued that Simmons' stereotyping of Muslims was inaccurate.[32] Simmons later clarified his comments on his website, saying he had been talking specifically about Muslim extremists. In 2005, Simmons was sued by a former girlfriend, Georgeann Walsh Ward, who said she had been "defamed" in the VH1 documentary When Kiss Ruled the World and portrayed as an "unchaste woman".[33] A settlement was reached in June 2006.[34] In 2007, Simmons openly spoke out against music piracy, and called for file-sharers to be sued.[35] A year later, he threatened further lawsuits, and to withhold new recordings, if file-sharing continued.[36] In 2010, Anonymous staged a DDoS on his Web site, prompting Simmons to hit back with provocative comments once he was back online, at which point Anonymous staged a second DDoS, taking Simmons' site down again. In 2008, a video on the Internet surfaced which purported to be Simmons engaging in sexual activity with an unnamed woman.[37] Simmons later stated that the tape was recorded without his consent or knowledge and that his legal team was pursuing legal options including copyright infringement.[38] In August 2014, Simmons made comments in an interview with Songfacts.com that seemed to openly encourage people with depression to kill themselves. The comments drew criticism from Nikki Sixx of Motley Crue.[39] Following his comments both Triple M and Power 97 stated that they were pulling all Kiss songs from their lineup in protest.[40] Simmons later clarified his comments and apologized for the incident.[39][41] In September 2014, Simmons made more comments yet again in another interview, but this time implying "Rock Is Finally Dead. It Was Murdered". The Kiss bassist recently made controversial remarks about Donald Sterling, immigration and depression (which he eventually backed off from), and now the Kiss bassist has another enormous statement to make: "Rock is finally dead," Simmons declared in an interview with Esquire. "The death of rock was not a natural death. Rock did not die of old age. It was murdered," he added. But rock's killer wasn't the blurring of musical genres or lack of craftsmanship. Instead, Simmons blames file sharing and the fact that no one values music "enough to pay you for it" for murdering rock n' roll.[42]

Seanwills7 (talk) 18:30, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Probably several editors will get back to you in regards to this. Thank you for joining us here and for openly disclosing why you are here. That being said, it is probably a good idea for you to start with reading several articles about wikipedia policies, if you haven't already. Some of the changes you requested to be made seem to be feasible, but I'm guessing that a majority of them won't be made. Start with this article and follow some of the links in it.. it will explain a number of different policies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:An_article_about_yourself_isn%27t_necessarily_a_good_thing Centerone (talk) 00:17, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for getting back to me on this. I understand that Wikipedia upholds a neutral point of view and that some of the changes cannot be made, but there is a lot of information in the article that is not based in fact (anything marked as false in my original post). If those changes could be made, our team would greatly appreciate it. Thank you for your time and consideration. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seanwills7 (talk • contribs) 17:27, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

When an editor assists us is making the changes to the incorrect content in this article, please ignore my request to have "Klein" removed from the article. Mr. Simmons wants "formerly Kovacs" to be removed. I misread Mr. Simmons' request. Please remove "Kovacs" and leave every instance of "Klein" in the article. Thanks! Seanwills7 (talk) 17:18, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Gene Simmons is the actual name

Gene Simmons isn't just a stage name, he really changed is name from Chaim Weitz (passing from Gene Klein) because his father abandoned him; instead his mate Paul Stanley's actual name is still Stanley Harvey Eisen — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.43.206.166 (talk) 20:43, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Quote that contains an obvious lie

"I wasn't born here. But I have a love for this country and its people that knows no bounds. I will forever be grateful to America for going into World War II, when it had nothing to gain, in a country that was far away... and rescued my mother from the Nazi German concentration camps. She is alive and I am alive because of America. And, if you have a problem with America, you have a problem with me."

His mother lived in Hungary. Jews there were sent to Auschwitz which was liberated by the Soviets, not US. Content of quote is likely a fabrication, but the quote itself is probably accurate. Not being that knowledgeable on Wikipedia policy to know how to address this I ask the Wikicrats here if maybe they know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.185.238.143 (talk) 04:48, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Nationality in the lede

The subject is being described as a Israeli American in the lede, is that a nationality? He seems to be an American to me, has he got dual nationality? Is there a citation for that?

Well he was born in Israel, and I think most articles on Wikipedia about a person will hyphenate their nationality if they were born in country X but raised in country Y. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.185.238.143 (talk) 04:49, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Edit Request

The paragraph below is seriously in need of repair:

In September 2014, Simmons made more comments yet again in another interview, but this time implying "Rock Is Finally Dead. It Was Murdered". The Kiss bassist recently made controversial remarks about Donald Sterling, immigration and depression (which he eventually backed off from), and now the Kiss bassist has another enormous statement to make: "Rock is finally dead," Simmons declared in an interview with Esquire. "The death of rock was not a natural death. Rock did not die of old age. It was murdered," he added. But rock's killer wasn't the blurring of musical genres or lack of craftsmanship. Instead, Simmons blames file sharing and the fact that no one values music "enough to pay you for it" for murdering rock n' roll.[43]

I suggest the following rewrite, if this is even notable (and I'm not sure it is.):

In September 2014, Simmons was quoted again stating his view that "rock is finally dead," in an interview with Esquire. "The death of rock was not a natural death. Rock did not die of old age. It was murdered," he added. He stated his belief that blames file sharing and the fact that no one values music "enough to pay you for it" were responsible for the decline.[43] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.243.118.154 (talk) 00:31, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

What in the hell?:

I mean, DAMN:

"Playing style Gene is famous worldwide for his giant tongue and on stage is remarkable for his demonic figure by spitting fire and vomiting stage blood, in addition to playing his ax down on format. Has its own magazine "Gene Simmons Tongue Magazine", his own label (Simmons Record), animated " My Dad the Rock Star ". In most Kiss songs, lead vocals are performed by lead vocalist & rhythm guitarist Paul Stanley, but there are some notable exceptions, in which Gene plays lead vocals, such as "Rock and Roll All Nite", "A World Without Heroes", "I Love It Loud", "Calling Dr. Love", "Unholy", "Spit (Second lead vocals)", "Boomerang", "You Wanted the Best (First lead vocals)", among other songs in which Gene also performs lead vocals."

Learn how to spoken. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.241.192.3 (talk) 23:54, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

Don't know if your last comment was intentionally hilarious or not . . . 104.169.26.177 (talk) 00:35, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

I can't believe this has been in the article for some time - Peter Criss

Criss was FIRED from KISS and hardly appeared on their "Dynasty" album (Anton Fig was the session drummer for 90% of the record) - he didn't quit or leave. He was so heavily into substance abuse (verified in his own autobiography) that the band made a more or less business decision to let him go, lest album sessions and concert dates be in jeopardy; he also had made himself more and more obnoxious to the others. 104.169.26.177 (talk) 00:47, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

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"in addition to playing his ax down on format"

Would somebody please translate this expression? I can only guess at what it means.--Quisqualis (talk) 22:10, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

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The paragraph below is seriously in need of repair:

In September 2014, Simmons made more comments yet again in another interview, but this time implying "Rock Is Finally Dead. It Was Murdered". The Kiss bassist recently made controversial remarks about Donald Sterling, immigration and depression (which he eventually backed off from), and now the Kiss bassist has another enormous statement to make: "Rock is finally dead," Simmons declared in an interview with Esquire. "The death of rock was not a natural death. Rock did not die of old age. It was murdered," he added. But rock's killer wasn't the blurring of musical genres or lack of craftsmanship. Instead, Simmons blames file sharing and the fact that no one values music "enough to pay you for it" for murdering rock n' roll.[43]

I suggest the following rewrite, if this is even notable (and I'm not sure it is.): In September 2014, Simmons was quoted again stating his view that "rock is finally dead," in an interview with Esquire. "The death of rock was not a natural death. Rock did not die of old age. It was murdered," he added. He stated his belief that blames file sharing and the fact that no one values music "enough to pay you for it" were responsible for the decline.[43] --99.243.118.154 (talk) 03:33, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

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Chaim Witz

A vandal continues to add an "e" to Chiam Witz, so it is incorrectly spelled as "Weitz".

This is obviously not the spelling, and multiple sources, including books published by Gene Simmons and countless websites, will bear that out.

Just a head's up.

173.15.39.193 (talk) 20:26, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

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Gene's not dead..

I saw earlier today when I looked up how old he is, Wikipedia said he died in 2010, but I can't find it in the article Simmonsgal61 (talk) 22:12, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

It was vandalism that's been removed. - FlightTime (open channel) 22:14, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Accused of "overlinking"

I came to the page and found that the usual Wikipedia rule of wiki-linking on first usage, and not thereafter, had been handled incorrectly on this page. It was a minor problem, easily solved, and i took care of it, with an explanatory note. I instituted the usual wiki-links on first usage and took the links off of the second usage. I do this routinely and have done it for more than a decade. I received a polite warning from user FlightTime that "welcomed me to Wikipedia" (haha -- i have been here more than 13 years... not that seniority gains one any respect around these parts) and accused me of violating style by "overlinking." My corrections were reverted. I am not sure what to do here. I do not know FlightTime. I know i followed proper style, and i certainly do not want to start an edit war. So ... FlightTime, let's talk here, okay? I don't enjoy private meetings on my page or another editor's page -- i prefer to discuss disagreements in the talk page of the article itself. catherine yronwode, not logged in 04:28, 12 December 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.101.104.17 (talk)

Double controversy pages

Do we need to have two places that have controversy in the title. Please move the Fox and Friends story to the Controversial Statements section. Pixar1995 (talk) 17:54, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Kiss her

I love this kiss her everyday someone tells me that I smell wonderful it’s getting so hard to find and the prices have gotten so bad I can’t buy it anymore a bottle I use to get for 70 dollars is now over 200 dollars I’m so sad I love this smell so very much 2600:100B:B107:BD96:8196:89A5:73E7:624A (talk) 17:54, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Every civilization must contend with an unconscious force which can block, betray, or countermand any conscious intention of the collectivity. 114.37.139.122 (talk) 14:49, 4 May 2022 (UTC)