Talk:Garibaldi Provincial Park

Latest comment: 5 years ago by Luidias in topic IUCN Category II (National Park)

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IUCN Category II (National Park)

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The infobox read "IUCN Category II (National Park)", which is clearly not the case, so I removed the IUCN designation. If anyone knows the correct category, feel free to add it back in. →smably 15:49, 29 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

I believe Category II is the correct category. Though the IUCN designation says national, the verbose definition doesn't mention national governance at all - see [[1]]). The UN page linked also calls it Cat II. Further, National_park#Other_sites_designated_for_preservation states "In many countries, local governmental bodies may be responsible for the maintenance of park systems. Some of these are also called national parks." It simply doesn't make sense for an entity concerned with conservation of nature make a distinction between nationally governed and provincially governed parks. They exist for the same purpose (the def'n of a Category II) and there is no other space in the rating system for such a park. I've readded the IUCN category II designation to the page.→Ktims 01:02, 20 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

It's hard to place a IUCN category, as BC Parks is NOT affiliated to ICUN. --Qyd 01:21, 20 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
From what I was reading yesterday on the World Database on Protected Areas site, linked at the article, their source is the Canadian Conservation Areas Database. If you follow up on that site, one of their goals is to classify Canadian protected areas under the IUCN classifications. Taken together, I'd consider this data somewhat authoritative, especially since it's listed on the IUCN-affiliated WDPA site. Further, I'm not sure these classifications are given out by the IUCN, it seems to just be specifying a classification system and allowing local organizations to apply it themselves. If you don't think there's enough of an argument for using these classifications, I don't have a huge problem with removing it.--Ktims 05:22, 21 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
I know this a very old talk thread, but I wanted to clarify this for anyone reading and wondering about the park's classification. Garibaldi park is in fact designated as a class II "national" park by IUCN, as per their official 'protected planet' tool. see: [[2]]. --Luidias (talk) 17:07, 30 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

Garibaldi, British Columbia redirect

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Uh, just found out that redirects here, which it shouldn't. Garibaldi was a town, not a park; its evacuation and eviction/appropriation because of the threat from The Barrier is worthy of a whole article, once researched; I don't ahve the resources to write such an article but may convert the redirect to a stub; I was hoping to find an article; this was the original DBA location of the Garibaldi Lift Company (now Whistler-Blackcomb) and I was popping by to see if they'd ever even put in so much as a rope tow near Garibaldi townsite - see Category talk:Ski areas and resorts in British Columbia re defunct (and planned) ski areas.Skookum1 (talk) 19:11, 2 August 2008 (UTC)Reply

I agree. I noticed this when I made a link to it on The Barrier article and was surprised there was no such article other than a redirect. But I didn't create an article about the town because I couldn't find anything other than the text on The Barrier article. It seems like the page was redirected to Garibaldi Provincial Park because that's what the article was originally about [3]. Black Tusk (talk) 21:19, 2 August 2008 (UTC)Reply
There've been a lot of weird things I've found since first starting to edit Wikipedia; Lillooet went to the language, Squamish to the wind, and so on.....I'll make the Garibaldi stub now, based on BCGNIS name/date info; somewhere out there in newspaper archives are huge amounts of public debate/dispute about the appropriation and such; some say it was just to make Whistler more valuable that Garibaldi was forcibly evacuated, adn that Whistler has its own geotehnical hazards (Fitzsimmons Creek flowing through, and almsot directly into, the Village, for instance). Politics, politics, politics, like the old claim from WRA/RMOW hacks that Powder Mountiain wasn't viable as a ski area "because too much of it is above treeline" and that the village site was environmentally dubious; as if the 2010 Sliding Centre weren't in the same location, and many of the same people involved in the kiboshing of Powder Mountain (and Garibaldi, come to think of it) are now on the VANOC Board.....did I say that? yeah; I have an inside track on certain bits of information, but it should bei n the news soon....I'll see if any of my journalist contacts might know what years the Garibaldi appropriation/debate went on in, maybe we can dig something out of the Sun archives...It was big news/controversy for quite a while.Skookum1 (talk) 22:59, 2 August 2008 (UTC)Reply
Garibaldi, British Columbia is now a separate article and not about the park or redirecting to it; Black Tusk knows this, posting this for other editors/readers to clarify the resolution of the above debate.Skookum1 (talk) 00:49, 3 August 2008 (UTC)Reply
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