Talk:Further Mathematics

Clarification on Victoria, Australia

Removed the reference to VCE maths methods in the introduction, as it was misleading and not relevant to that section. The existing description of Further Mathematics in VCE was largely unreadable jargon, copy-pasted straight from the VCAA (Victorian Curriculum and Assessment Authority) handbook. It has now been removed, seeing as 1) It was a very large section, which overstated its importance, especially considering the length of the other sections, and 2) Most of it was a ridiculous volume of text with little useful information. The VCAA section has been replaced with a new paragraph that i wrote, which firstly points out the significant difference of VCE Further to UK and international Further, and briefly outlines the course for VCE further. For anyone who does still wish the read the official VCAA information, there is an external link at the bottom. Oh and if anyone is wondering, my information is based on the fact that i did further maths last year in year 11, and am doing methods this year.

NPOV

Not sure about this but I'm doing a futher maths A level (UK) and it includes an FP4 module- however I'm on the AQA syllabus. Is this why there is a discrepancy? And if so, should it not be corrected in the article? Also I have not heard anywhere else that F. maths is a 'passport' to oxbridge. Certainly more than a quarter of my fellow students (all predicted 'A's) have been turned down from studying maths there and all of them are very strong candidates (in terms of their personal statements, interviews, etc).

I have applied to do physics at uni and most universities strongly prefer F. Maths. It's not as rare a subject as the article makes out. And to be fair I only got one automatic offer from a university (and it was Warwick... certainly not my 'backup choice' by any means). This article could do with a glance from a lecturer at a college or university who has better knowledge of the subject itself and the weight it carries in the academic world.

You're right; the article makes it seem that doing Further Maths will make you a king. I have toned down the language and added source requests so people can prove their statements. FP4 does exist, yes. Skinnyweed 19:09, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

websites

Does anyone know of any good websites that i could try to learn further maths from. i would do it at school but my maths teacher does'nt seem to want to teach me it.

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/A-level_Mathematics Pluke 16:27, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

http://www.mathsnet.net/asa2/2004/index.html Claret 18:46, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

thanks for the websites. althought the first link seems to have incomplete sections the second links seems to have lots of information.

Can be FP1, FP2 and FP3

The page says the further maths a level consists of FP1 and FP2 or FP3, alongside with 4 applied modules. I just (Summer 2009) completed a Further Maths A-Level, having done FP1, FP2 and FP3 (AQA). Unless this has changed, because the syllabus may have, the page is incorrect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.100.12.181 (talk) 13:13, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Clarified. --Joshua Issac (talk) 11:00, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

FURTHER Mathematics...?

Didn't a lot of this content once appear in regular A-level Maths, not Further Maths...? I'll spare all you apologists the bother of actually replying: yes it DID. The phrase "dumbing-down" seems to spring to mind, for some reason.... 82.5.68.95 (talk) 02:22, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Fascinating isn't it. In the 80s we did Venn diagrams, basic matrices, vectors, trigonometry and differentiation at O-level, and Taylors series, complex numbers, inequalities and half the rest of the article's list in the regular maths A-level. Makes me wonder what they did in further maths in those days - probably Laplace and Fourrier transforms! I noticed the rot had set in even then. The past papers over that decade already showed the dumbing down process was in progress....1812ahill (talk) 00:12, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Well, in the 1970s, we did Venn diagrams, matrices, vectors, trigonometry, imaginary numbers in years 1 and 2 of secondary school (ie ages 11, 12, 13). The only problem was, we did the same thing year after year after that (ie until leaving school at 18 or 19). The same thing with physics, chemistry, and almost every other subject. One may of course study the topics over and over again in all years of school life, but the information taught got a bit deeper and harder as we progressed the years. So you can be sure the trigonometry for A-level is more complicated than the trigonometry taught to an 11 year old. And Laplace and Fourier Transforms are fairly easy if you've learnt and fully understood the basics of calculus. 86.186.82.52 (talk) 00:15, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

If P +Q + R = 180,

Then prove that: cos(Q + R - P) + cos (R + P - Q) + cos (P + Q - R) = 1 +4cos P . cos Q . cos R 103.149.204.18 (talk) 07:43, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

If P + Q + R =180⁰, then prove that:

cos ( Q + R - P ) + cos (R +P - Q) + cos ( P + Q - R) = 1 + 4cosP. CosQ . cos R 103.149.204.18 (talk) 07:46, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

cos ( Q + R - P ) + cos (R +P - Q) + cos ( P + Q - R) = 1 + 4cosP. CosQ . cos R 103.149.204.18 (talk) 07:46, 20 May 2021 (UTC)