Talk:Foss Dyke

Head of Witham

Where did the Witham begin its course before the digging of this canal? Just looking at current maps, it seems as if it must have began not too far west of Brayford. --Criticalthinker (talk) 06:09, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Presumably close to its current source in South Witham, way beyond Grantham. See River Witham. There's not too much current into Brayford Pool because of a drain under South Lincoln which takes most of the water. Chris55 (talk) 21:41, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

After writing that I did some more research to find that the river actually begins far south of the city and not west of it. Didn't realize that the Foss Dyke was completely artificial, and I thought the Witham south of Brayford was actually an articial canal/drain, which explains my initial confusion. So, is the Sincil Dyke the canal/drain southeast of the city? Why was Sincil Dyke built? --Criticalthinker (talk) 02:01, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

If you think that flooding above Lincoln is bad (which it still is), it's nothing to what it was before the dyke was cut. It's all there in the article and in River Witham. The Glory Hole is far too small to take all the water which comes mainly from the south but also a bit from the north (up to Gainsborough). It was basically to avoid demolishing that rather fine medieval structure. I remember my boat clinging high up on the wall in Torksey during one rainy period! Chris55 (talk) 14:12, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Do you know anything about the Sincil Dyke? I've tried following it on a map, and it appears to begin just south of the city, but I can't tell where it ends after the point of where it goes beneath the train station. --Criticalthinker (talk) 02:30, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

No, probably goes underground and emerges below the lock. But a quick look at Google maps suggests it starts at 53.214297°N 0.549961°W / 53.214297; -0.549961, ducks under the station at 53.225486°N 0.538873°W / 53.225486; -0.538873, reemerges at 53.226485°N 0.535697°W / 53.226485; -0.535697 and then runs parallel to the river at 53.226064°N 0.523451°W / 53.226064; -0.523451 rejoining it below Bardney Lock. It might have been extended at any time. Chris55 (talk) 09:53, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Removal of citation needed tag

I have removed the citation needed tag from "Richard Ellison IV had agreed a lease for 894 years, at £9,570 per year." The edit summary suggested it was rather high, in view of the initial lease at £75, but income rose rapidly, reaching £5,159 in 1811, as stated. Russell p266-267 covers the whole paragraph, and mentions that £9,570 was the average net profit for the previous three years plus 5 per cent. The railway company also leased the Witham at £10,545, calculated on the same basis. Bob1960evens (talk) 15:04, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Fine, I don't have access to Boyes & Russell currently. It looks like a very cool move on behalf of the waterway! I assume it wasn't inflation-proof and isn't significant these days, but there are still 724 years left to go! (Probably the government got out of it somehow.) What would have happened if the railways hadn't bought? A lease greater than income at a time when the railways were becoming rampant is surprising to say the least. Chris55 (talk) 17:42, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Assessement

Greetings
I was thinking of making this a class B article, it pretty much deserves it. Would it be possible to extend some of the citations from the main body into the initial heading paragraphs? Almost all of the statements in the heading are repeated, and cited, below, but without having the source material I can't be certain of that.

That leaves the sentance there about the Brayford Mere Trust, which is uncited. There is also no mention of thier role deeper in the article. Could that be expanded on a bit there?
--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 12:25, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

I have assessed the article against the criteria for B class.

• Suitably referenced, with inline citations
• Reasonable coverage - no obvious omissions or inaccuracies
• Defined structure, with adequate lead
• Reasonably well written for grammar and flow
• Supporting materials - Infobox, map, images, POI table
• Appropriately understandable

I am therefore rating it B class. The Brayford Mere Trust is now suitably mentioned in the restoration section, with references, and there is no requirement for info which is properly referenced in the body of the article to also be referenced in the lead. Bob1960evens (talk) 11:39, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

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