Talk:Ferries in Wellington

Petone ferry

Petone Wharf was damaged in the 2016 Kaikoura earthquake and ferries no longer run there. I can't find a citation right now for the date that ferries ceased, and they might have actually stopped running to Petone before 2016 as dry rot was found in the wharf at some point.

Possible info sources: Lower Hutt spending $15 million upgrading and demolishing wharves Ferry operator looking at a service between Petone and Wellington WHF timetable

Will come back later to update article as and when I have time to do some research in the news.

Albeetle (talk) 11:09, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Update: I have updated the text now, the page as a whole is still a bit of a mess though and could do with a cleanup. Have tagged page as needing copyedit via template. Albeetle (talk) 04:47, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Incomplete list

Why do you think it is complete? Eddaido (talk) 04:52, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

@Eddaido: Hi, the "List was Incomplete" was already on the page, I was unsure it needed to be there but changed it to be a proper template instead of what was previously there (an italicised comment, see my change comment/the change I made).

I have not added any images to that page, if you have any particular ones in mind that I've added in the past feel free to add them to WM yourself or ping me on the relevant talk page.

With regards to the copyedit template, there are various parts of the article where I believe that a rewrite to improve flow and grammar would be nice; in particular, see the "Owners and Operators of Steamers" section which is missing commas and has a couple of run-on sentences. I *think* one of my prev edits on this page was a copyedit improvement, so you can see that too if you want an example.

I'm also not particularly happy with the Steamers section (it should really be edited to either be a table or not to be a list of disconnected facts). See WP:PLOT!

Have copy-pasted this onto the talk page for the article as well, please continue discussion about that on its own talk page so other editors can see it. Thanks! Albeetle (talk) 23:48, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

(Reader: Note this is an incomplete copy/paste) Please see my response to the whole message on your talk page. 23:56, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Please respond to article-specific things here on the article talk page, not on my own talk page. I don't want to get into an edit war, so please revert my changes if you are unhappy with them! Thanks Albeetle (talk) 00:00, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

"Encyclopaedic" style

This is a continuation of a conversation started on my talk page by @Eddaido:. The text is as follows: "You are completely at liberty to change my choice of words to your (I guess you will claim it to be) "encyclopaedic" style but you do the reader a disservice and you should reconsider this type of switch to what I will describe as your Wikipedianese. Eddaido (talk) 12:57 am, Today (UTC−4)"

Thank you for your feedback. Are there any specific examples that you would like to highlight? We can work together to both follow the Wikipedia Manual of Style and retain your style.PopularOutcast ^talk2me 10:56, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Yes, pretty much all your unfortunate stylistic changes. You might like to go through and explain why you made each one. Eddaido (talk) 10:58, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

All changes were made to conform to the Wikipedia Manual of Style referenced above. In August of 2018 this article was marked as needing to be copy edited. The Guild of Copy Editors is currently running a copy editing blitz for geography articles tagged for copy edit and that is how I came to edit your article. Again, if you have any specific examples of what could have been done better, I will be happy to help edit. The talk page over at Wikipedia Manual of Style is also quite useful when you have questions about style.PopularOutcast ^talk2me 11:13, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Recent copy edits broke grammar in multiple places

Copy edits in the last 24 hours have improved parts of the article's prose, but other parts have been degraded. Here are some examples of recent edits that broke sentence structure and grammar:

Before: "Duchess was specially built for Port Nicholson in 1897 and was licensed to carry 1,029 passengers. She had to be first to go when commuters switched to buses in the 1920s."

After (broken): "Duchess was specially built for Port Nicholson in 1897 but licensed to carry 1,029 against Cobar's 745 passengers she had to be first to go when commuters switched to the buses in the 1920s."

Before: "The island was opened to the public in 1995 with off-peak and weekend ferries called on request."

After (broken): "The island opened to the public in 1995 and off-peak and weekend ferries call on request." (missing a comma to separate the two clauses)

Before: "At the age of 12, he started out as a sailor on vessels trading on the English coast."

After (broken): "He started out to be a sailor at the age of 12 in vessels trading on the English coast."

There is more, and many commas are needed to separate clauses. Please ping me here if you would like help with making this article even better than it has become with recent copy edits by multiple editors. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:25, 18 October 2018 (UTC)