Talk:Fabric discography

Fair use criteria

The use of images not in compliance with our fair-use criteria or our policy on nonfree content is not appropriate, and the images have been removed. Please do not restore them. — Moe ε 18:38, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Format/interleaving releases

• Imo, the discography would be better if it was sorted into a live and regular sections, instead of interleaving the two. Seems like it would make it a lot easier to find a particular release that way, any thoughts anyone? Wickethewok 16:43, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

I have seperated it, I thought putting it in chronological order might be better, but I guess chronological order for the two types isn't bad either. — Moe ε 19:00, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

• Oh, nice job. :-) I think its easier for people to find info this way, but I suppose thats a matter of opinion. Cheers! Wickethewok 21:44, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Unlinked Fabric Live albums

There seems to be a lot of unlinked Fabric Live albums, like Fabric Live 18, Fabric Live 19, Fabric Live 20... List goes on. I can add them, but one thing first, should the albums on the article be named "FabricLive <number>" or "Fabric Live <number>" with the space?
Because on each album's article there's a space, but on this one there isn't.
One other thing is that on the club's site the CDs are mentioned as "FABRICLIVE.<number>" as you can see here. What do you think? --Madmax.ptz 13:37, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I think you should relink the albums if you can, such as this one that I created: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabric_Live_36 And I definetly think the name's should be in the same format as they are on the fabric webpage as that is official. --Dagurb 21:26, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

If you look on the fabric's page they're called FABRICLIVE or FabricLive and the cd case's say the same. Dagurb I have no idea where u got Fabric Live from - that name isn't on fabriclondon.com. FABRICLIVE is the most common on there so they should be changed to that -- Thesingo 20:05, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Madmax, I went ahead and changed the Fabric Live to link the pages properly. Change the title of the link later once everyone has decided on album name. --207.194.224.65 (talk) 22:17, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Since both "FABRICLIVE.<number>" and "Fabriclive <number>" seem to be adopted by the official site (linked above), I changed the titles to "Fabriclive <number>", for readibility.
On the other hand, what should one do about the actual articles which are in the "Fabric Live" format? --Madmax.ptz (talk) 17:43, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

On the official Fabric site, the formatting of the albums are "fabric ##" & "FABRICLIVE.##". I started the process of correcting this & someone (Ikara) has reverted them back to the improper titles. —ɠu¹ɖяy ^¤ 18:49, 26 May 2009 (EDT)

Please read the relevant sections in the Manual of Style. The current convention for this encyclopaedia is to avoid writing in all capitals, even when that is the original convention. Instead we should be reducing them to title case, which is more readable. Furthermore, both styles are used on the official site; "FABRICLIVE.##" in the title, and "FabricLive ##" in the prose. Therefore we should choose the one which conforms best to the MoS, which is in this case the latter. For the other series, the albums are stylised in lower case, and could therefore be stylised that way here. Be sure to add {{lowercase}} to each album's page. All the best – Ikara ^talk → 01:40, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I propose that "FabricLive ##" be changed to "FabricLive.##" due to every album in the FabricLive series does have a dot in irregardless of capitalization variance on the official fabric site. —ɠu¹ɖяy ^¤ 15:15, 27 May 2009 (EDT)

Agreed. I didn't remove the period from the album articles when changing the capitalisation. I will add them in with any further edits I make. We should also be redirecting all alternative capitalisations and punctuation variants to the articles – Ikara ^talk → 20:29, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

That's what I've been slowly doing, but I'm going thru & also fixing the tracklists & linking the official album page. —ɠu¹ɖяy ^¤ 18:43, 27 May 2009 (EDT)

Moved, fixed the linking & added Redirects up to album FabricLive.12 FabricLive.20 FabricLive.30 FabricLive.42 & created FabricLive.43. —ɠu¹ɖяy ^¤ 19:13, 2 June 2009 (UTC) —ɠu¹ɖяy ^¤ 20:14, 2 June 2009 (UTC) —ɠu¹ɖяy ^¤ 21:22, 2 June 2009 (UTC) —ɠu¹ɖяy ^¤ 22:41, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Big Issue CD

Wasn't there a Fabric CD given away with an edition of the Big Issue at some point? — 87.194.58.250 (talk) 01:08, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

The answer is yes. http://www.discogs.com/Scratch-Perverts-Fabric-Big-Issue-CD/release/525109 Also fabric has released a lot of music outside the series. What's the criteria for leaving them out of the article?

Ronan Keating

Seems somebody keeps adding FabricLive.42 as Ronan Keating. I've removed it, seems others have tried also.87.75.165.127 (talk) 17:39, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Progress on the FabricLive series

General:
Y Redirect & Move all albums in series
Y External link to official Fabric site

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Start Rating:
Y An infobox
N A lead section giving an overview of the album
Y A track listing
N Reference to at least primary personnel by name (must specify performers on the current album; a band navbox is insufficient)
Y Categorisation at least by artist and year

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C Rating:
N A reasonably complete infobox, including cover art:

Y Cover Art

N Album Length

N At least one section of prose (in addition to the lead section)
N A track listing containing track lengths and authors for all songs
N A "personnel" section listing performers, including guest musicians

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B Rating:
N A complete infobox, including cover art and most technical details
N A full list of personnel, including technical personnel and guest musicians
N No obvious issues with sourcing, including the use of blatantly improper sources
Y No significant issues exist to hamper readability, although it may not rigorously follow WP:MOS

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Updated:
—ɠu¹ɖяy ^¤ 18:13, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
—ɠu¹ɖяy ^¤ 17:39, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
—ɠu¹ɖяy ^¤ 02:21, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
『 ɠu¹ɖяy 』^¤ 02:08, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

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Comments:
Would all of the articles in the FabricLive series be listed a started class articles?『 ɠu¹ɖяy 』^¤ 20:51, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

That depends on the article specifically. Have a look at WP:WikiProject Albums/Assessment#Quality scale. For an article to be start class it needs at least an infobox, a lead section (more than just one sentence stating what the article is about), a track listing, a list of key personnel and categorisation at least by artist and year. If it doesn't meet these criteria it should be labelled as stub class, and possible marked with one of the appropriate stub templates. – Ikara ^talk → 22:29, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism

Anonymous users keep adding inexistent volumes. What's the normal procedure?

Tags

I request the Unreferenced & Notability tags be removed, since the article has a link to the official fabric page at the bottom of the page. —ɠu¹ɖяy ^¤ 20:03, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

You may want to read the guidelines on notability and verifiability. All articles on Wikipedia require at least two reliable and independent sources to meet the criterion for notability. Without these the article may be challenged, and even removed in some cases. The official site is not suitable as it is not independent, although it is a good resource once the notability has been established. Sites such as Allmusic are more suitable and would be acceptable as one of the two sources. Note that user-submitted databases, including this encyclopaedia, are not considered reliable so websites like Discogs are not suitable. It can be hard to grasp at first, but you'll start to recognise reliable sources after you've been using them for a while – Ikara ^talk → 11:43, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Well I could link to Allmusic, but that would a HUGE reference section... —ɠu¹ɖяy ^¤ 20:24, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

You only need one reference to Allmusic to help establish notability, once you have done that you can then use the official page for the full list. You will also need some other website, independent from Allmusic as well. I would suggest either using professional reviews or appropriately cited charting information in the article lead as a means of implementing them. See WP:GOODCHARTS for a list of sites for charting data – Ikara ^talk → 01:00, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I have added Resident Advisor to the external links since they have reviews of most/all the fabric & FabricLive albums. Would this be good enough to have the tags removed? —ɠu¹ɖяy ^¤ 21:55, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

That will do nicely, although for convenience I'd use the relevant search link; http://www.residentadvisor.net/search.aspx?searchstr=fabric&section=reviews. I'll add this and reformat the references appropriately when I remove the tags. All the best – Ikara ^talk → 14:10, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

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