Talk:ElonJet
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What is the relevance of this on the Wikipedia Encyclopedia? edit
This is about an account that was mainly exclusive to Twitter, using public data to track only one high profile individual, being Elon Musk, providing coordinates among other information about his personal jet. In no way do I want to make my bias clear on the situation (seeing as I don't really lean on any one side regarding the situation) but I do find the existence of this page to not have much of a point. User:QuantumZazzy (talk) 01:30, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
- Said account is notable enough to have been in the news multiple times, causing it to pass WP:GNG. LilianaUwU (talk / contribs) 01:31, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is NOTNEWS. Topic being mentioned in the news "multiple times" does not on its own validate the article's existence. 68.82.180.144 (talk) 18:31, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
- But substantial coverage over time does, which is what we have here. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 18:41, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
- How much time is needed to meet the definition of "enduring" per NOTNEWS requirements? Surely more than 3 days? 68.82.180.144 (talk) 21:01, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
- More than three days, yes. Jack Sweeney and the @ElonJet Twitter account have been in the news for more than a year now. From the first sentence of the second paragraph of this article:
"The Twitter account, created in June 2020, had been targeted by Musk beginning in 2021."
There has been press coverage since Musk brought attention to the flight-tracking account in 2021. Cheers! 98.155.8.5 (talk) 01:16, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- More than three days, yes. Jack Sweeney and the @ElonJet Twitter account have been in the news for more than a year now. From the first sentence of the second paragraph of this article:
- How much time is needed to meet the definition of "enduring" per NOTNEWS requirements? Surely more than 3 days? 68.82.180.144 (talk) 21:01, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
- But substantial coverage over time does, which is what we have here. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 18:41, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is NOTNEWS. Topic being mentioned in the news "multiple times" does not on its own validate the article's existence. 68.82.180.144 (talk) 18:31, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
"Thursday Night Massacre" edit
Is this NPOV? The primary reference is a not particularly noteworthy twitter user/opinion writer Micah Lee who was one of those who were temporarily suspended. I don't see neutral non-editorial news articles or journalists referring to a Thursday Night Massacre. 68.82.180.144 (talk) 14:58, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
- I have added multiple reliable sources, and can add more if you'd like. Cheers! 98.155.8.5 (talk) 18:37, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
- We have a whole article for the Thursday Night Massacre. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 18:40, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
- @68.82.180.144: Please stop edit-warring. Multiple sources are referring to this as the "Thursday Night Massacre", better to try and come to a compromise on the talk page and dialogue about your concerns here. Cheers! 98.155.8.5 (talk) 19:18, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
- The article is no longer referred to as the "Thursday Night massacre". The phrase as mentioned within that article is also being discussed as not noteworthy on the associate talk page. See /wiki/Talk:December_15,_2022_Twitter_suspensions#%22Thursday_night_massacre%22_dubbing_not_valid 68.82.180.144 (talk) 20:56, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, that is a discussion on a different talk page. Maybe take your concerns there as well? Cheers! 98.155.8.5 (talk) 21:00, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you, I invite you to do the same. That said, my concerns are already well-represented there.
- Let's monitor the outcome of that main article discussion and strive for consistent application of core WP content policies across both articles. Agreed? 68.82.180.144 (talk) 21:08, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, that is a discussion on a different talk page. Maybe take your concerns there as well? Cheers! 98.155.8.5 (talk) 21:00, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
- The article is no longer referred to as the "Thursday Night massacre". The phrase as mentioned within that article is also being discussed as not noteworthy on the associate talk page. See /wiki/Talk:December_15,_2022_Twitter_suspensions#%22Thursday_night_massacre%22_dubbing_not_valid 68.82.180.144 (talk) 20:56, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
- first, don't use opinion articles, and second, please read WP:RSP - we should stick to green rated sources if possible, which means not using Mediaite, Mashable, and especially Daily Kos. starship.paint (exalt) 03:46, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, starship.paint! Didn't know that Daily Kos was deprecated or considered unreliable. Cheers! 98.155.8.5 (talk) 05:03, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
This article should be marked for deletion edit
It is weird, to say the least, that something like this got dragged on to Wikipedia. Actions as exhibited with the person behind Twitter account can be described as online harassment / bullying. I do not condone Wikipedia holding side to something like this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.207.95.196 (talk) 11:31, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- Whether you believe it to be harassment or not is irrelevant to its notability. --Pokelova (talk) 11:48, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
I agree with Pokelova. Furthermore all of this information is public so it's just visualizing it. But it is notable and that's what matters. Greatder (talk) 09:40, 11 January 2023 (UTC)