Talk:Ella (name)

Requested move 21 September 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Participants were not convinced that the name was the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. (closed by non-admin page mover) ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:25, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

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• Ella (name) → Ella
• Ella → Ella (disambiguation)

– Subjectively, this is the primary topic by long-term significance, and the dab page already treats it as such. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 03:04, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

• Yeah the significance argument seems pretty obvious, as a lot of the other meanings seem to be objectively less notable derivatives. https://wikinav.toolforge.org/?language=en&title=Ella does show an inconclusive picture, though, with only 196 out of 580 views getting to the proposed primary topic, and some amount of traffic going to the non-derivative name of a Sri Lankan town of 50k (apparently from a Sinhalese word meaning "the falls"?). I'm still generally sympathetic to the argument because of Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation/Archive 55#effects of WP:NAMELIST on navigation outcomes for anthroponymy entries - it's pretty clear that if we listed some of the more notable people named Ella here, they'd probably skew the usage statistics (and probably should). Overall the numbers are pretty small so it's hard to judge how much this usage matters. How much would a hatnote inconvenience the 25 people out of the 580 who want to read about the town? Or 10 who want to read about the Ella Fitzgerald album, plus the long tail? I'd prefer to see a bit more data or a more coherent significance argument before deciding. --Joy (talk) 10:56, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose, not convinced the name is PRIMARY.--Ortizesp (talk) 04:59, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose per Ortizesp; the primary is likely Ella Fitzgerald, otherwise just "Ella" -- 67.70.25.175 (talk) 05:55, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.