Talk:Elizabeth Mitchell (disambiguation)

Move?

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was moved. The page traffic evidence, which has not been refuted, presents a strong case that the actress is by far the most prominent of these women. -- Aervanath (talk) 05:04, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

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• Elizabeth Mitchell → Elizabeth Mitchell (disambiguation) and Elizabeth Mitchell (actress) → Elizabeth Mitchell — Elizabeth Mitchell (actress) seems to be the primary topic. Korg (talk) 15:47, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

• Disagree. The Maine politician has more Wikilinks than the actress. The actress only has sixty, a good proposition of which are not to articles. There are also seven women listed on this dab, so the actress would have to be clearly more notable than the others put together, which does not seem to be the case. Boleyn2 (talk) 16:27, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Despite the difference in the number of wikilinks, the article about the actress gets much more traffic than the other articles, and about 200 times more page views than the article about the Maine politician.[1][2][3] Also, please note that the disambiguation page has a number of incoming links, of which a majority seems to refer to the actress. I was going to fix them, but I thought it would be more logical to move the articles. Korg (talk) 17:14, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Incoming links is not a reliable source for determining the primary target, the main reason being that all it says is that people too lazy to check a link when adding it to articles are talking about the actress. I know that when I clean up an article I always make sure links in it are correct and point to the article they are supposed too. I am not convinced that the actress is more notable than the musician or the politician that share the name. TJ Spyke 18:53, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

The disambiguation page was moved from Elizabeth Mitchell (disambiguation) to Elizabeth Mitchell several months ago,^[4] so I think that explains (in part) the presence of these incoming links. I note that before the move, the disambiguation page received about 300 hits per month,^[5][6] and about 30 to 50 times more after the move.^[7][8] Interestingly enough, the traffic of the disambiguation page and the traffic of the article about the actress basically follow the same trend: [9]/[10], [11]/[12]. Korg (talk) 20:27, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

• Support both moves, but the second one only conditionally. In general, it makes sense to call a disambiguation a disambiguation. As currently the actress is rather popular, we should redirect to her article. When the TV series goes off air (world wide, that could be well after the US, as some countries lag behind) and interest wanes, we can change the redirect to the disamb, or to the politician, or to whatever is appropriate then. -- Matthead  Discuß   22:45, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Comment Moving and then moving again would cause a lot of potential problems and misdirection. MOS:DAB does not support the idea that a dab should have disambiguation in its name; on the contrary, the policy is that this is only the case if one article is much more used than any other topic covered in Wikipedia to which the same word(s) may also refer (significantly more commonly searched for and read than other meanings). The actress is not significantly more notable, and when the TV series finishes, she may well be less notable. Boleyn2 (talk) 23:10, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.