Talk:East Kilbride and Strathaven

Feedback from New Page Review process

I left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: Please remember to tag redirects that you create per WP:REDCAT.

voorts (talk/contributions) 01:02, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Correct Rcat tag

@Wbm1058: I used {{R from incorrect name}} because this is the incorrect name for the article title, since the article apparently needs disambiguation. What RCat would you use? voorts (talk/contributions) 19:50, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

@Voorts: Usual conventions suggest that East Kilbride and Strathaven (UK Parliament constituency) should be an {{R from unnecessary disambiguation}} redirecting to East Kilbride and Strathaven, which is an unambiguous topic not requiring disambiguation. But Category:Proposed constituencies of the Parliament of the United Kingdom points to a local naming convention that requires disambiguation. I don't know quite what to make of this local convention that goes against the norm. {{R to required disambiguation}}? {{R to necessary disambiguation}}? {{R to disambiguation by convention}}? Would be interested in reading any discussions about this matter. – wbm1058 (talk) 20:43, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

Apparently a hyperspecific naming convention requires the use of "(UK Parliament constituency)", so I think {{R from incorrect name}} is correct. I'm going to pose the question of the appropriate category on the naming convention talk page. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:29, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

I see, Wikipedia:Naming conventions (UK Parliament constituencies). – wbm1058 (talk) 21:39, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

I've posed the question of the appropriate category on the talk page and pinged PamD, who drafted the guideline, to see if she knows the answer. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:43, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

I just made this edit swapping out {{R from short name}} for {{R from less specific name}}. The reason I didn't retain {{R from short name}} is because it didn't seem to me that the title without its parenthetical qualifier should be considered a short name of the fully-qualified title, due to the following:

• the actual title minus the qualifier is the same in both instances; and
• this doesn't seem (to me) to be a case where the fully-qualified title would also be used generally to refer to the subject of the article itself - (UK parliamentary constituency) is (in my mind) only a descriptor, not an extension of the article subject's name itself.

All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 22:48, 18 January 2024 (UTC) ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 22:48, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks @A smart kitten. I think we had come to a consensus that that was the most appropriate option; I'm not sure why it wasn't implemented. voorts (talk/contributions) 22:53, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

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