Talk:E-segment

Who put the Phaeton on the list!????!?!???!?

It's an F-segment car; haven't you heard? 166.137.208.37 (talk) 19:52, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

I added the Cadillac XTS

Please know that I could be wrong though. Its overall length is like an F-segment car, but wheelbase is more on par with an E or even a D by today's standards. Shorter wheelbase than even the CTS and, on top of that, front-wheel-drive. 137.25.35.93 (talk) 07:48, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

E-segment is not the same as full-size. This article needs a serious rewrite.

First of all, it's about an European car classification - the E-segment - not used in the United States. So inclusion of cars that are not sold in the European Union, like the Impala as of 2019, does not make sense - unless you make it clear that they are "comparable American cars" and not examples of the European E-segment.

But, more importantly, the Dodge Charger, the Chevrolet Impala and the Chrysler 300 are not in the same size range that the European E-segment cars. Just take a look:

Wheelbase/length in mm:

E-segment Mercedes E: 2939/4923
E-segment Audi A6: 2924/4939
E-segment BMW 5: 2975/4936

F-segment Mercedes S SWB: 3035/5116
F-segment Audi A8 SWB: 2998/5172
F-segment BMW 7 SWB: 3070/5098

full-size Dodge Charger: 3052/5084
full-size Chrysler 300: 3053/5044
full-size Chevrolet Impala: 2840/5110
also, full-size 2008 Taurus: 2863/5126

These 3 full-size American cars - the Dodge Charger, Chevrolet Impala and Chrysler 300 - are the size of European F-segment cars, but without the luxurious equipment associated with European F-segment cars. They are something that does not fit into the European classification. But size-wise, they are F-segment, not E-segment.

One of them (the Impala) has a wheelbase shorter than the others and actually *shorter* than in European E-segment cars; the 2008 Taurus is similar in this aspect. The length is F-segment. You may have a hard time assigning them to one of the European segments, but fortunately you *don't* have to assign them to one of the European segments.

Comparing car classifications in Europe and the US can be tricky. European cars grew in size a lot (as if trying to match, but not quite matching, American cars), and size brackets of the C-, D- and E-segment moved upward.

But you can't say that full-size (USA) and E-segment (Europe) are the same thing. There is not a single sedan model that you could convincingly say belongs to both of them (unless you pick one with variable wheelbase/length). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Periwinklewrinkles (talk • contribs) 17:11, 24 December 2019 (UTC)