Talk:Dispatch (band)

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I put back the old page (copied from google's cache) since someone found funny to erase that page to write stupid things.. I also made a few changes (links, italics..) to make this page look more like other bands' page.. --Pierrealex 22:35, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Chad's last name is Urmston. Stop changing it.

...the article is still very repetitive. The wording should be consolidated in order to perfect sentance flow...

Matterson52 02:38, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Names

To the anons who keep changing the names of band members:

• Chad's last name is Urmston
• Pete's last name is Heimbold

Please refrain from altering this article to reflect anything different; it will be reverted as vandalism. — orioneight (talk) 12:38, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

are you sure about pete's last name being heimbold, i was under the impression that it was francis. — —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.81.68.14 (talk • contribs) .

Positive. Check the sources. — orioneight (talk) 12:32, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

For the record, Pete Heimbold's middle name Francis. He began using this name for his solo project which began during Dispatch's Hiatus. Therefore, it is truly Pete Francis Heimbold. Case settled. --Thefirechild 22:03, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

To whom it may concern... Chad refers to himself as "Chetro" and not stokes, and Pete no longer refers to himself as "repeat" but uses his middle name in place of a nickname... -just a fan

...but as far as the Dispatch nicknames go, they went by Chetro, Braddigan, and Repete.

Layout Rework

So I just did a layout reworking of the page by trying to divide the different topics up better. Now it will be easier to expand and it seems atleast somewhat more organized than before. As you can see, the main sections are now Band History, The Elias Fund, The Last Dispatch Documentry, The Relief Project, Band Members, Discography, and External Links.

Let's work to make this a real quality article.

--Thefirechild 14:22, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Ska Jam band???

I'm not sure I hear much ska in their sound with the exception of a song or two, and while the band certainly used to jam on occassion, I don't really think the degree to which they did actually earns them the label of a jam band. Because they drew their musical inspirations from so many different sources, it is indeed difficult to nail them to a specific genre. However, the band did once identify themselves as "tri-vocal funcoustic instrument-swap groove" (Here's a quick reference I dug up [1]). Anyways, I used to follow this group quite closely back in the day, so maybe when I get some time I can come back and contribute to this article (more on their early history, the significance of their sound, etc.) --68.163.70.14 19:18, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

The article should reflect sources only--opinions need not be included. If a source identifies Dispatch as a ska jam band then that label is eligible for inclusion here. Corey Salzano 15:19, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Album gallery

I just added a gallery for the album.. makes the page much more attractive.. and I was wondering : maybe it would be better to add some more space between the paragraphs. Pierrealex 17:55, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

This change has just been edited out. Check history for Plm209's revisions on 5/29/2007 Corey Salzano 22:51, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Band Roles

I'm sure that all the guys in the band have done all those things, but can we just list their primary roles?

"Brad Corrigan (vocals, drums, guitar, and percussion), Pete Heimbold (vocals, bass and guitar), and Chad Urmston (vocals, bass, guitar, and percussion)."

Having that is kind of ridiculous, the average reader has no idea who does what. I'm not really familiar with the band, but i know for example that Chad sings lead on most of the songs and plays guitar on most as well, so why not take off the "bass and percussion" billing? --Cptbuck 03:22, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

They really did switch instruments enough to need that. They all sang, and I don't just mean backup. They all wrote their own songs and played guitar and sang them and backed each other up. Chetro is perceived sometimes as being the lead singer and usual guitar player, but that's just because many of the more popular songs are that way. Really Chetro and Pete traded guitar and bass all the time, with Brad usually on drums, although he'd come play guitar sometimes too. If we were listing EVERY instrument they played, it would include things like harmonica for Brad, etc. But the instruments listed really were all essential.

Dispatch has self-described themselves as tri-vocal funkcoustic instrument-swap groove. If I'm not mistaken, this is mentioned on the Under the Radar DVD, but google the phrase for references. I've also heard them described as a band with three lead singers.

"the average reader has no idea who does what"

"Chad sings lead on most of the songs"

Sure he does, but not all of them. I think edits you propose here would mislead people to think Chad sings all of them. It is what it is. Corey Salzano 05:05, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

But at the same time aren't there a lot of other bands that arguably use multi-instrumentalism just as much and don't need to use every possible title to describe the music? As an example, John Lennon and Paul McCartney ended up playing every instrument separately on a whole bunch of tracks on the later Beatles albums, but no one's going to accuse Paul McCartney of being a drummer... I'm just trying to put it out there as a potentially confusing aspect of the article, and I know it wouldn't be liked, which is why I brought it to the talk page first. --Cptbuck 01:15, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes. You have a point, but I'm not crazy about your example. Lots of bands record albums differently than they perform them. Did Paul McCartney ever play drums live? Here's some Dispatch swaps that I think make the band noteable for exchanging roles...

Chad plays djembe on Flying Horses

Pete plays guitar on Bullet Holes

Pete is the lead vocal on Two Coins

Brad plays guitar on Prince of Spades (and there are no drums)

Good discussion! Hopefully someone else can offer their thoughts.

Corey Salzano 14:21, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm on your side, but I don't really like your examples.

First of all, since your talking about live performances, Chad plays guitar on Flying Horses.

Pete's examples for singing and guitar aren't bad, but they suggest that he only did this on a few songs, when in reality he and Chad switched it up with guitar and bass pretty evenly.

Brad plays guitar and sings on a pretty big portion of songs, although not as often as Chad and Pete, since he is the only of the three that takes on the drums. Sometimes there are drums on these songs still too, and they just have a guest drummer fill in.

Nice catch, Chad does play guitar on Flying Horses. I was just watching the Patchwork DVD last night. Speaking of guest performers, I wonder who will be playing with Dispatch this weekend at Dispatch Zimbabwe? I guess I'll find out on Friday! Corey Salzano 19:51, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

-HBO- AND -FOX'S THE SHIELD

During a promo for HBO, they used the song "Here We Go", by Dispatch, which I thought was pretty cool. Right before Entourage--66.234.203.32 05:53, 2 July 2007 (UTC).

Season 3 of the Shield. In a hooker bust.

'Independent' Status of this band? They are Distributed (at least) via Universal...

Can someone that knows a lot about the entertainment industry, and is neutral to this band (no disrespect at all meant to contributing authors) please correct this article so that it does not say Dispatch is an "independent band", but yet later lists all of their major releases as being sub-published on Universal Records. It is hard work to get even just major p&d deals, like they apparently have/had... so therefore they should not be hyping their history and their latest concert as "independent" efforts... Thanks 24.215.238.186 23:35, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Dispatch is an independent band. This claim refers to their record company, Bomber Records, the label that they started. They do have a distribution deal with Universal, but that doesn't mean that they have signed a record deal with Universal. An agreement exists to distribute Dispatch media through Univeral outlets while Universal does not manage the band. Corey Salzano 15:23, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

It's common practice nowadays in the music industry for independent labels to make distribution deals with the majors.

Dispatch didn't even have the distribution deal with Universal until after they broke up. Universal had no part in the recording or producing of their albums (except I think they helped with the recording of All Points Bulletin, since it was from their final concert, and they'd made the deal with Universal). I'm pretty sure this information is accurate. This means that all the success they had and the following the built as a band was done independently.

Virtual Albums section a stretch

Can we just wait until the Zimbabwe show comes out on CD and DVD to add it as an album? If we were to list all "Virtual Albums", there would be hundreds of taped shows that could appear on this list. Corey Salzano 19:19, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Ok, without objection I'm editing it out. Corey Salzano 23:31, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

I think the difference here is that it was an official recording that they were selling. I still wouldn't call it an album though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.88.176 (talk) 16:12, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Under the Radar

Listing this as a live album rather than a DVD seems misleading. UTR's own page, too, only lists the 7 tracks on the bonus audio disc, Patchwork, not the main DVD. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.151.64.62 (talk) 06:49, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Dispatch 2011

I've taken out the sentence about their being "back in the studio" because it's not really notable by itself. "Back in the studio" could mean that they're cutting a new album (please, God), but it doesn't necessarily, and they haven't said so explicitly.

On a more general note, I just wanted to remind those editors who are fans of the band that, although we're all very, very excited about the upcoming tour, we should still be striving to make this article encyclopedic. In fact, I think that it's more important right now than it ever has been for this to be a high-quality article, because this tour is probably the highest-profile thing that the band has ever undertaken—it beats both Last Dispatch and Zimbabwe because it's a national tour, instead of just one show or three shows, respectively, in one city. That means that more people than ever before who aren't familiar with the group are going to be Googling "dispatch band," and when they do, this page will come up in the top ten hits. (In fact, I just tried it, and the WP article was the second hit, after the official site.) So, to the Dispatch fans editing the page—let's make this article awesome over the next few months! It's what the boys would want! :-) Skiasaurus (skē’ ə sôr’ əs) 06:07, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

POV-Statement

"The musicianship was always on display at every show as each member of the band switched instruments throughout their set moving between guitar, bass and drums/percussion."

This seems much more like a fan's opinion than an encyclopedia. If the point of the statement is that it is noteworthy that the band members trade instruments, then a source could be given to that effect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.170.224.12 (talk) 16:29, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Lead section, and a comment about sources

The biggest change that I made in my edit was to rewrite the paragraph about the band's history; I felt that it wasn't well organized, and it hadn't been updated to reflect the band's getting back together. I also moved the members' names and instruments up to the first paragraph, and I deleted the reference to the Elias Fund because I don't think it's so important that it needs to be in the lead. I do think that the lead should talk about their activism as a band, but that'll have to be added another time and/or by someone else.

Regarding sources, I agree that this article desperately needs more of them. The problem is that they're very hard to find, because, for most of its existence, the band has not been covered by mainstream media. Additionally, many of the publications that did cover them during that time (mostly college papers) no longer have those articles available on their websites. Go here and you'll see what I mean: out of 25 links on that page, only two ("Live album showcases Dispatch's diverse talents" from the Notre Dame Observer and "Pete Francis: So They Say" from the Yale Herald) still work. Anyone have an idea for what can be done about this?

Skiasaurus (skē’ ə sôr’ əs) 19:40, 17 June 2011 (UTC)