Talk:Davos

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Interwiki

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90.176.233.122 (talk) 13:03, 20 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

I guess you have some problem with unicode. The chinese page is about the same Davos as in the english page. Momet (talk) 06:17, 21 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

Demographics and the languages

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Noone speaks Serbo-Croatian language. This language was never spoken by noone with exception of some communist leaders that created this articifial language in 1961 and later promoted the name of this language it in written media across the globe. Even this artificial language seized its existance in 1990. Now it is, according to the article, official in Switzerland. Croats speak Croatian language and Serbs Serbian language. I know that it is much more simple from the Swiss perspective to name it one language, but try not being so cheap when there is such an important issue such as national language on the table. Austrians did the same during the existance of Austria-Hungary and this brought only trouble and war later in the history.Hammer of Habsburg (talk) 22:19, 19 March 2010 (UTC) Where did you learn to type?Reply

Dubious claims about English pronunciaton

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The article claims without sources that "Davos" is usually pronounced /'dɑːvɒs/. This contradicts my own experience, which is that it is usually /'dɑːvoʊs/ in the US and /'dævɒs/ in British English. See. e.g. [1] for the US pronounciation and [2] for the British. My Longman Pronunciation Dictionary gives both forms with second-syllable stress, which seems obsolete in English today. Grover cleveland (talk) 15:42, 30 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

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Davos

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Harry Clarke was president of the Irish society of Davos and was one of Ireland´s most important artist´s of the 20th Century. There is a project in place to secure placement of a commemorative plaque to Clarke in the town. Considerable correspondence, photographs etc. exist from Clarke´s time here. Please do not undo the addition. The alphabetical ordering was an error. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.58.11.198 (talk) 01:24, 16 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

Moved from my talk page -- ZH8000 (talk) 01:28, 16 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

There were probably a hundred of people who where "president" of any club and lived for many more years in Davos. This list should not list every possible visitor, but only notable ones with a strong relation to Davos. thks. -- ZH8000 (talk) 01:29, 16 September 2016 (UTC)Reply
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Translating place names

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Why translate place names? You say "...it makes sense", what do you mean? How does it make sense? We don't translate people's names, we don't convert numbers in names (ie it's Nine Inch Nails, not 22.86 cm Nails), why does it make sense to translate a place name? Do we need to write Münchenbuchsee (lit. Monks' Book Lake) etc, on every article where some type of translation can be thrown together?? It doesn't make any sense. The only cases I can think of is where the translation helps explain the origin of the name (eg Baer -> Bern), or examples of canting on the coat of arms (eg Wolfenschiessen or Bern), or something similar. And in those cases, it wouldn't be just a throw away (lit. xxxx), it would be a sentence or two giving context. Random translations just shoe-horned in a article (eg Landwasser (lit.: "country water") does not give any context or expand the reader's understanding.Tobyc75 (talk) 12:18, 17 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

I agree. Eric talk 12:34, 17 September 2018 (UTC)Reply
I have noticed this going on but have not, thus far, got involved. My $0.02 worth: if the English name of a Swiss (or German, Chinese or whatever) town, river or whatever is different from that which the local population call it, then that is the name that should be used in the English Wikipedia. No translation is necessary. In the subject example, the English call the place 'Landwasser' and not 'Country Water' so 'Landwasser' without translation should be in the article. That is unless the WP:MOS says different, which I do not believe it does.
Incidentally, this should have been posted on the article talk page (as it discusses an improvement to an article), and not here. TheVicarsCat (talk) 17:05, 17 September 2018 (UTC)Reply
I agree with Tobyc75, Eric, and probably also with the TheVicarsCat. ZH8000, please. We really don't need to translate every toponym in an article that isn't about that toponym. And when we do feel the need to do this, we should invest more thought and research to its actual meaning (or better yet an actual source for a translation) before translating. According to the German article on this Landwasser, "Land" is an Alemannic term for the economically arable bottom of a mountain valley, the main valley as opposed to side-valley. That doesn't translate to "country" and the whole toponym doesn't translate to "country water". Toponyms are very tricky. Just another reason not to translate them, especially without reference, when they are not the article's focus. ---Sluzzelin talk 22:11, 17 September 2018 (UTC)Reply
I concur. Where a non-English-speaking place has a well known English name that differs from the local name, by all means use it. But in the vast majority of cases, we should simply use the local name. If the derivation of that name is well understood (and that implies citable sources) and interesting, then it can be covered in an etymology section or sub-section, as is already the case for many places. But in the absence of that, there is no justification for just doing a vanilla translation of the name. That is both uninteresting, but also (in the absence of citable etymological sources) likely to be misleading (just as it appears landwasser = country water is). -- chris_j_wood (talk) 09:50, 18 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

Notable residents and people connected to Davos

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I'm thinking of editing, updating and improving the Notable people section of the Davos article. I would suggest the following:

  • acquire more items selected from {Category:People from Davos} (25 current items)
  • remove current items without a Wiki article in either English or German
  • add a link to a German Wiki entry as a second choice to English wiki
  • leave entries in alpha order but group them together in four or five subcategories - like Sport / Politics / Arts / Acting / Science, like Lausanne#Notable_people
  • add one or two photos

However, I see that the Davos article can be quite contentious, so I thought I'd consult in advance; any views?

ArbieP (talk) 21:24, 17 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

My only concern is that this article tends to attract a lot of "this celebrity vacations here often" entries. However, right now it looks pretty reasonable. As long as all the entries have a strong connection to Davos and you can clean up the numerous red links, go for it.Tobyc75 (talk) 13:32, 18 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

Geography/Topography section

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Sorry, I made a large edit and forgot to enter a description. I split away the non-physical parts of this subsection into "Political divisions", which I moved away from "Politics". I created a small description of the topography of the village of Davos itself and tried to make this distinct for the description for the entire municipality/Gemeinde.Cobbunt (talk) 19:19, 16 March 2021 (UTC)Reply