Talk:Coterminous municipality

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Largoplazo in topic Arlington

Source for term

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Is there a reliable source that the term is in use? The second source uses the terms "coterminous town-village" and "consolidated municipality." If those are the closest terms that are actually in use, then the article should be either moved or merged into Administrative divisions of New York. Doctor Whom (talk) 14:21, 8 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

Found these via Google:
  1. The News Sentinel
  2. The Pantagraph
  3. Dayton Daily News
  4. Toledo Blade
  5. The Indianapolis Star
--Cavarrone (talk) 13:58, 27 May 2012 (UTC)Reply
So please point out how each of the references uses the term in the same sense as in this article. The general readership does not have the burden of disproof. 24.126.33.171 (talk) 12:42, 12 December 2012 (UTC)Reply
In over 4.5 years, no one has even taken a stab at answering this question. Also, the definition has been tagged "citation needed" for over 5 years. That's pretty telling. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doctor Whom (talkcontribs) 20:36, 21 June 2017 (UTC)Reply
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Arlington

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I have been trying to add the following to the see also list:

Arlington County, Virginia § Incorporation, an urban area with no incorporated town or city, but only a county government

I have consistently been reverted by Largoplazo, who has said in the edit summaries:

  1. Arlington is not a city.
  2. The explanation you provided *contradicts* it being a coterminious municipality. Arlington is not a municipality. There is one entity, Arlington County, not two coterminous entities.
  3. There's no basis for singling out Arlington. In Virginia alone, 35 other counties also have no municipalities within them.

To be clear, I have never claimed that Arlington is a coterminous municipality. This is a see also list item, for related topics. Arlington is notable and distinctive in Virginia and in the United States, for being a dense urban area which meets the description of a city described in the City article, without being incorporated as a city, but instead being organized as a county. I think that readers interested in coterminous municipalities, an atypical local government structure in the United States, might be interested in this other atypical local government structure in the United States. I understand that to be the purpose of see also lists. @Largoplazo: Can you further explain your opposition? What do others think? Daask (talk) 14:37, 27 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

A coterminous municipality involves a consolidation of two municipal forms of government and, as is stressed in the first paragraph of the article, isn't a county at all. Arlington is involves zero municipalities and is only a county. Therefore, Arlington bears no relationship, nor even any similarity, to coterminous municipalities in any sense that makes it suitable for inclusion in the "see also" section of this article. I'd say it's the exact opposite of an arrangement that would have "see-also" relevance for this article.
You may have consolidated city-county in mind. Even in that case, I'd argue against any special relevance for Arlington, one of many municipality-free counties in this country, including 35 others in Virginia alone. You suggest that it differs from these by being urban—but being urban isn't relevant to whether an entity is a consolidated city-country. Sitka, Alaska isn't urban. Neither are Anaconda, Montana/Deer Lodge County, Montana or Menominee, Wisconsin. So that would amount to singling Arlington out for "see-also" relevance based on a single characteristic—being urban—that isn't relevant to that article's topic. Largoplazo (talk) 15:32, 27 May 2021 (UTC)Reply