Talk:Cornjerker

This appears to be lifted from the Hoopeston Area site. Although it provides the history, it should be cited.

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Very incorrect sentiment in this page.

I want to change this to be factually correct but since the Wikipedia moderator mafia is made of people who are never mistaken it will just be reverted. This was written with little knowledge of corn based agriculture, as I can tell being a farmer with over 30 years of experience with the medium. The problem is as such:

The first paragraph where it discusses how sweet corn is pulled prior to modern machinery is just wrong. This is a misconception as sweet corn is still always pulled by hand. Sweet corn is the vegetable form of corn with soft kernels, eaten on the cob. An experienced worker can tell the ripeness just by placing their hand around the ear, at which time they will twist and jerk the ear off the stalk. A worker will try to not prematurely pick ears as within a few days they will grow into maturity, but mechanical harvesters would simply strip all the ears and let them go, significantly reducing the monetary yield and time of viability of a crop. It is picked from early summer to early fall, being planted on a rotating schedule for freshness as the "Fruit bearing" part of the season is only about 2 weeks before aging out of preferred ripeness. Sweet Corn is a major part of migrant worker employment. The ears will be picked and then placed by sitting them down on a surface such as a wagon, crate, wheelbarrow, pickup truck, ATV, etc. The ears will never be thrown as this will directly bruise and damage the end product leaving the consumer with a negative opinion of the seller, who often is a direct farm to table seller off a produce wagon or farmers market. Typical independent stands sell between 5 to25 dozen a day, while larger operations regularly sell 50+ on their worst days and over 200 on their best, depending on the location and dedication of the setup. Those in popular organized farmers markets, such as those the Amish run in PA and OH can sell even more. Even then, this is a miniscule haul comparatively to the "other" corn.

"Field corn" which is what is the vernacular name for the cereal grain of corn, made of hard kernels and harvested from the dried stalks of corn in the fall. It would make far more sense for this to be what is being discussed as the initial machinery for it simply took the ear off the stalk and ran them up an elevator belt into a wagon, automating but performing the identical result to a human worker. It would not be unusual for human workers to get into order with one per row and walk their way down next to the wagon, pulling and then tossing the ears into the wagon, where the hard kernels are difficult to damage. This is the kind of corn that is sold by the thousands of bushels in large lots, loaded onto tractor trailers, carried by full train cars and sent by ocean liner. Naturally, this kind of volume with a durable grain is where machinery comes in to make itself invaluable. The scale of which sweet corn is dwarfed by this is difficult to explain without scientific notation.

So while the idea is applicable it requires the details surrounding it to be changed. The key notes are: 1. Gleaning machinery has nothing to do with sweet corn harvesting then or now. 2. Throwing the crop would not be done unless it was hard-grain field corn. 3. It still done to this day as the primary means of harvesting, not a colloquialism at all. 4. Its almost certainly not sweet corn being described. 5. I think I've outlined enough. Ba18070 (talk) 01:14, 1 May 2023 (UTC)