Talk:Commercial animal cloning

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article discussion

This is a page to discuss about the quality of the content of the article and not the issues presentd there. So I took the liberty to delete a rewritten comment left here by unregistered users JunCTionS 14:24, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

pet cloning

This article is heavy on controversy and light on technical detail. I'd like to learn how it's actually done, in theory and in practice. For example, there are two roles for a female "donor" in the process. One is to provide the egg that nuclear DNA is injected into. That makes this dog a donor of mitochondrial DNA. Then there is the dog who will actually carry the pregnancy. Is it always the same female participant? Some of this may be in the realm of proprietary corporate info because I'm having trouble finding the answer. Does anyone really understand the role of these factors in producing a dog with a particular look and set of capabilities? I have read that toy breeds don't clone well because their tiny size is not just determined by nuclear DNA but also by intra-uterine environment and possibly mtdna. Is that true? Wikipedia should know.  :)

when so manny pets die each year there has to be a long waiting list, can cells live that long? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.221.80.89 (talk) 03:06, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm guessing this might answer your question [1] you have to have tissue "gene banked", or have a living (I'm guessing a diseased or nearly dead dog works). I guess in the future further obstacles might be overcome so to be able to clone from just DNA JunCTionS 14:24, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

• • Just read a little further and it seems the maximum time before taking a sample for gene banking is 5 days after death JunCTionS 14:44, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Pet Cloning (Squish!!!!!) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.135.11.251 (talk) 15:54, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

References

Discussion of article: Pet Cloning

This article suggests techniques to use for pet cloning, but only mentions one when there are many more such as the Roslin technique, the Honolulu technique, and the Artificial Twinning technique. It also provides little detail of the topic in general (not broad in coverage). It seems like the article is heavily focused on the history and controversies but less on the process on how it actually works. Also, it does not provide any information about new findings or the importance of the topic in general, or the reason why pet cloning exists. I noticed it does not contain many factually accurate and verifiable information. For example, in the article, it states that ViaGen had the original patent for cloning Dolly the Sheep while in another article I looked up (Servick et al., 2017), it states that Dolly the Sheep cannot be patented, based on a U.S. federal circuit appeals court that was ruled. Based on this information, I am not sure if the references or sources of information in this article are out of date or if this is a new finding. It would also be useful to incorporate relevant images (with suitable copyright licenses) of the first pet cloning to see what it looked like. This page should also have additional sources of information and references to add more detail to the topic. ElizabethOtero20 (talk) 20:38, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

References:

Bailey, R. (2019, July 28). The Different Types of Cloning Techniques. Retrieved from https://www.thoughtco.com/cloning-techniques-373338

Servick, K., Ortega, R. P., Ortega, R. P., Ortega, R. P., FrederickJan, E., & FrederickJan, E. (2017, December 10). No Patent for Dolly the Cloned Sheep, Court Rules, Adding to Industry Jitters. Retrieved from https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/05/no-patent-dolly-cloned-sheep-court-rules-adding-industry-jitters

Issues with the Current Article

Hello, I am fairly new to wikipedia so I an creating this topic as a way of discussing changes/fixes that could or should be made to this article, I would really like to fix this article up but I feel it has a variety of problems I am not confident to handle on my own. I'll list them below in a bullet point format for clarity's sake

• Sources: several of the sources given are dead links leading to nowhere, additionally there are several quotes within the article itself which lack any citations.
• Sections on non-commercial animals: This article covers extinct or endangered animals more than it does actual commercial animals, I propose that this section either be deleted or be given an article of its own if it isn't already one. additionally, working animals aren't considered commercial animals either. Commercial animals are animals which provide a product that isn't labor.
• Tone/quality: The article has several sentences which connect and disconnect with one another seemingly at random (namely in the livestock cloning section.)

These are just a few suggestions I have, I am going to be aiming myself to fix many of these but I will likely be slow to do so due to generally being busy. If anyone has any other suggestions, recommendations, or advice, please post it here in this discussion! Apologies if this is the improper use of the Talk board but I would really like to get this article fixed up and being able to discuss fixes would be a huge help. GranolaCube (talk) 05:23, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

Agree with all of this. I just did a bunch of editing to shorten the extinct animals section, but the giant paragraph about the sturgeon also needs to be pared down. And honestly, you're right in that it doesn't much fit with the subject matter of the article anyway.

Some other things that could be improved:

- The first paragraph mentions competition camels and horses, but horses only get a couple sentences of mention. I don't see anything about camels.

- Relatedly, there seems to be some debate associated with cloned horses being allowed to race—that feels like it merits a spot in the Controversies section.

- Not a lot of history about the practice of cloning in livestock operations.

- I think there's more to be spoken about in the section about medical applications. Granted, a lot of animal cloning is done for medical RESEARCH and isn't necessarily being used in commercial applications right now, but when that research is being done by companies because they intend to market a product or procedure based on the results of that research, I think that counts. Hamburghoular (talk) 09:17, 6 January 2024 (UTC)