Talk:Cold-core low

Upper-level low?

Is this the same as an upper-level low? If so that should be mentioned. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:49, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

It's mentioned a couple times that cold-core lows strengthen with height, but not explicitly since they can have a related low level circulation. You think it should be made more obvious? Is there a way it could be worded more clearly without being incorrect? Thegreatdr (talk) 23:39, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Oh, just that you see all the time references to upper-level lows. If ULL and cold-core low are one in the same, that would be great, as I'm often looking for a place to link for that. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:33, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

I still think there should be a mention in the lede that the "upper-level lows" so often read about in tropical cyclone literature refer to this. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:10, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Cyclonebiskit (talk) 23:44, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Just getting thing set up here, I'll have the review of this article completed within the next hour or so. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 23:44, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• "...is a cyclone aloft which has an associated cold pool of air residing at high altitude within the troposphere above the Earth's surface." - Three instances of a higher altitude in the same sentence (aloft, high altitude, above the Earth's Surface). I believe cutting out the last four words would retain the same meaning and resolve the issue.
  • It has been reworded. I cut three words out. Thegreatdr (talk) 01:39, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
• Second and third sentences of the lead both start with "It"
  • Resolved. Thegreatdr (talk) 01:39, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
• Since the article redlinks, I'm a bit lost (just reading the lead as separate piece) as to what an East coast low is. Not sure if there is anything that can be done about that in the lead alone though.
  • Let me know if I've done enough with its rewording. Thegreatdr (talk) 01:43, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
• Is there a synonym you can use for cold-core low?
  • Cold low, cold cyclone, upper low (as long as there's no associated surface low, then it's deep cyclone). Thegreatdr (talk) 01:43, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
• Link outflow to Outflow (meteorology)
  • Done. Thegreatdr (talk) 01:39, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
• Although there is an article for it, it's probably best to give a one sentence summary of what a thermal wind is.
  • See if the new wording helps. Thegreatdr (talk) 01:53, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
• "Due to this, the center shows an area of thickness minimum." - No idea what that means, aside from the slight oxymoron
  • Fixed. Thegreatdr (talk) 01:53, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
• "Most cloud cover and precipitation in association with cold lows occurs during the daylight hours." How come? What's preventing this from happening at night?
  • See if the new text helps explain it. Thegreatdr (talk) 01:55, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
• "...(SST) gradient along the east coast of continents, such as Asia, the United States, South Africa, and Australia..." - As impressive of a nation we are, we do share the continent with others ;) (United States should be changes to North America) Also, did you intentionally mean South Africa the country or the region of Southern Africa?
  • Fixed. Thegreatdr (talk) 01:57, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
• "...they form in tandem with blocking anticyclones at higher latitude..." - Change to "anticyclones at a higher latitude" or "anticyclones at higher latitudes"
  • Done. Thegreatdr (talk) 00:37, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
• "East coast lows can persist for up to a week." - Nothing wrong with this bit but it just feels somewhat out of place....if you believe it to be where it should be I have no problem with that.
• You switch the capitalization of "East coast low" to "east coast low", needs consistency
  • Dealt with. Thegreatdr (talk) 00:21, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
• "wave heights over 10 metres (33 ft) in height" - redundancy.
  • Dealt with. Thegreatdr (talk) 00:21, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
• La Nina -> La Niña
  • Done. Thegreatdr (talk) 00:25, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
• Add (TUTT) after tropical upper tropospheric trough since you use the acronym
  • Done. Thegreatdr (talk) 00:25, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
• "Tropical cyclone movement can also be influenced by TUTT cells within 1,700 kilometres (920 nmi) of their position, which can lead to non-climatological tropical cyclone tracks." - redundancy at the end, one of the two needs to be reworded to avoid this. Change the conversion to statute miles, it's more well-known that nautical miles. Additionally, what is a non-climatological path (clarification for readers not fluent in TCs)?
  • Removed redundancy, added what non-climatological means trackwise, and switched from nmi to mi. Thegreatdr (talk) 00:25, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
• "...50-metre depth..." - imperial conversion in parenthesis needed
  • Done. Thegreatdr (talk) 00:37, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
• 6.5 °C/km - (°F/mi) is needed for this and the following instance
  • Converted to degrees F/mi. Thegreatdr (talk) 00:31, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

All in all this is a good read. That said, there are several quirks in the article that need to be addressed before I can pass it. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 00:25, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

That should resolve the issues. Let me know if a second round of fixes is needed. Thegreatdr (talk) 00:37, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Alright, it looks like everything is all good. I'm passing the article, congrats! Cyclonebiskit (talk) 12:43, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

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Do all high level lows have a cold core

Equating upper-level low with cold-core low seems to imply all high level lows have a cold core. Could we clarify if this is true, and why ? What causes them to form ? eg is it just a high level eddy that coincidentally contains colder air, or does the cold core cause the formation/rotation, or does the rotation cool the core ? - Rod57 (talk) 13:14, 5 November 2017 (UTC)