Talk:Chickamauga and Chattanooga National Military Park

Name change?

@Mdewman6: What is the justification for the name change? Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Ampersand says to use "and" instead of an ampersand in normal text and headings. I think an article title counts as a heading. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 19:20, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

I've reverted the move. The official website uses "and" in many places in the text, so the "&" appears to be purely stylistic. I'm not sure exactly what the guidelines are on "&" in titles, as it is used in many titles such as "Barnes & Noble", "AT&T", etc. We'll need to get this clarified if we decide the common name uses the "&". BilCat (talk) 20:05, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

I think the MOS is clear. It can be used in "AT&T" (that is the official proper name) and in places where space is limited like a table or infobox. It could also be in direct quotations. But otherwise it should be spelled out. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 20:08, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

The move was because the official NPS website uses "&" instead of "and". There is nothing against using ampersand in page names when appropriate. I also realize the distinction is trivial and would be fine either way. But I would argue following the name used in the official website is most appropriate, essentially being analogous to "AT&T". Mdewman6 (talk) 20:12, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

The NPS website uses the "&" strictly in titles, as far as I can tell. In normal text, it uses "and" . See here and here for examples. BilCat (talk) 20:21, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Indeed, their use of "&" in titles indicates to me that Wikipedia should do the same. Obviously, in the prose of the article when not directly referencing the name of the NPS site use of "and" would be appropriate. Mdewman6 (talk) 20:24, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia generally tries to be consistent in an article. We'll either use "&" or "and" for the name of the organization, but not both. BilCat (talk) 21:24, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

FWIW, at this page, under "National Military Parks", they use "and" (Chickamauga and Chattanooga; Fredericksburg and Spotstlvania). Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 21:32, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

The NPS seems to use "and" everywhere on the printed maps and the website, except for the title of the main page about the park. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 21:50, 15 August 2020 (UTC)