Talk:Central counterparty clearing

Latest comment: 6 years ago by Whizz40 in topic Merge with Clearing house (finance)?

Image incorrect edit

The image on this page is incorrect. DTCC is the name of the merger of DTC and NSCC. See: DTCC.com Mjd0210 (talk) 14:46, 16 July 2010 (UTC) MJD0210Reply

image removed as it was not helpful to understanding the central counterparty in equitiesWikiDorset (talk) 19:17, 4 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

Planned edits edit

I plan to make substantial changes to this article in the coming weeks. For example, DTCC has operated its Continuous Net Settlement system for decades. CNS is a CCP, created before the latter term was coined. I don't think that the illustration can be used going forward, as it does not represent the flow of trade data into CNS. Any disagreement, please let me know. WikiDorset (talk) 00:55, 30 March 2017 (UTC)Reply

Scope and lead section; capitalization of titles edit

WikiDorset, thanks for all your work on this article to improve it.

A basic question is, what level of audience do you wish to address? Is it only for those, who are already familiar with the financial industry and its processes, or is it intended to inform the general reader? If it's for the general reader, then I suggest more background material and more basic explanation. The level should also be reflected in the assumptions that you make in your lead sentence and paragraph.

Here are some questions:

  • The lead sentence doesn't inform me conclusively as what gets cleared.
  • What are "financial transactions"? Would taking out a mortgage be a financial transaction?
  • Are there other methods for clearing financial transactions?
  • What is a "counterparty"?
  • Is "CCC" a term of art, or just a convenient abbreviation in the article? If the latter, it's only used once.

It seems to me that the name of this article and some of the sections are not proper nouns and therefore should not be capitalized per WP:CAPS. I'll await input from other editors, before changing the name of the article to, "Central counterparty clearing". User:HopsonRoad 21:08, 2 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

Lesson learned. I should have rewritten the article elsewhere, and copied it here when ready. Instead I started tinkering and it's still not done.WikiDorset (talk) 20:58, 3 April 2017 (UTC)Reply
No harm done. That's quite usual among editors to fix things on the fly in the article space. Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 21:46, 3 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

Merge with Clearing house (finance)? edit

It seems to me that Clearing house (finance) has a lead section that encompasses the scope of this article. Is this article different in scope? If so, then that should be made clear what the difference is. If not, then any elements of this article, which are missing from Clearing house (finance), should be brought across to that article and this article should be made a Wikipedia:Redirect to the other one. Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 12:59, 3 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

That article is US centered, but there is no reason for two articles dealing with the same subject.WikiDorset (talk) 21:10, 3 April 2017 (UTC)Reply
on further reflection, the two should not be merged. A clearing house is just that. It does not involve a central counterparty. I need to figure out how best to split out the counterparty bits of the other article and add them to this one. More to comeWikiDorset (talk) 19:16, 4 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

Much of the Clearing house article addresses the role of a CCP. I suggest moving those sections here, and then merging into the Clearing house article existing articles on Bankers' clearing house and Cheque clearing, which discuss its history and role. WikiDorset (talk) 17:57, 5 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

Central counterparty clearing is a distinct topic and needs a separate article. [[Clearing house (finance) is needed to cover the history before modern central clearing developed. Whizz40 (talk) 07:25, 15 October 2017 (UTC)Reply