Talk:Cave of Hira'

Latest comment: 6 years ago by Leo1pard in topic Merge with Jabal al-Nour?

May the cave of Hira be visited by non-Muslims ? edit

Mecca may not be visited by non-Muslims, how about the Cave of Hira so close to Mecca and so sacred? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.205.142.75 (talk) 05:33, 20 August 2008 (UTC)Reply

Hey this answer might be a little late for you but since you asked - as a non-Muslim you probably wouldn't be able to get to the Cave of Hira. The Saudi government is extremely strict about visas and actually does monitor visitors to the country. As Wahhabis they also aren't very big on pilgrimages to historic sites and actually have demolished a number of archaeological sites.

Which brings up another point... I've heard that the Wahhabis wanted to demolish the Cave of Hira just as they did the Prophet Muhammad's house and tomb, Fatima al-Zahra's grave, the battlefields of Uhud and Badr, etc. Anyone got details on that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.224.20 (talk) 13:46, 8 August 2009 (UTC)Reply


To add to the previous poster's comments, the reasoning behind the demolishing or cordoning off of religious sites is that many visitors would venerate sites and icons and give them various attributes. So instead of visiting a site simply because of historical purposes it turns into a pilgrimage. (eg: a pilgrim claiming that a pilgrimage to a certain (historical not religious) site cured a certain illness.). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.107.248.104 (talk) 15:52, 14 April 2010 (UTC)Reply


Is that graffiti on the entrance to the cave in the wiki page image? Krisrp0 (talk) 13:19, 7 May 2014 (UTC)Krisrp0Reply

Improvements to article edit

I've tried to improve the article slightly, by improving the -first revelation' section and by giving a few links (albeit to Islamic websites - can try to find more neutral versions later). The article still needs to be worded better and needs more information. Maybe more on the background of Mecca and it's people (and their beliefs) - I just wrote a minimal amount of this at the start, but I think it can be made more robust. MP (talk) 12:27, 8 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

Content edit

May I humbly remind you that this article is about a geographical location? Everything else must be only a summary. Detailed descriptions of revelations must be covered in articles of proper name, such as Laylat al-Qadr. Please also keep in mind that the text must match other places in wikipeidia, such as section "The first revelations" in "Muhammad" article and in articles about suras. Mukadderat 17:16, 8 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

Ill fix that. --Striver 16:11, 15 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

Merge with Jabal al-Nour? edit

The cave is a part of the mountain, the cave and mountain are important due to their association with Muhammad in a particular event, that is Muhammad's first revelation, and this article is not that long. Leo1pard (talk) 18:04, 6 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

I believe that it should happen, because of what I mentioned. Leo1pard (talk) 07:53, 10 April 2018 (UTC)Reply