Talk:COVID-19 pandemic in California/Archive 1

Archive 1

Coronavirus pandemic will end by May or June

2019–20 coronavirus pandemic will be over by May or June of 2020. Sports would return this summer and Disney Parks & Resorts will re-opening on California, Florida, Tokyo, Paris Hong Kong & Shanghai.

It will NOT affect the 44th Annual Macy's 4th of July Fireworks, the 94th Annual Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade, Disney Parks Christmas Day Parade, the 132nd Annual Tournament of Roses Parade in 2021, etc.

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Name Change to: Coronavirus Covid-19 pandemic in California

Should not this article be titled Coronavirus Covid-19 pandemic in California? emerson7 20:25, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Emerson7, No. The title should be consistent with the others in Category:2019–20 coronavirus pandemic by country and territory. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:17, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Damaged tables

The tables showing the graphs of cases and deaths per day have lost their date information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.153.94.160 (talk) 20:10, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Templates needed

Templates available for only some counties. Can someone who knows what they are doing add more counties? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.106.112 (talk) 23:02, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

I'll take a picture of some coronavirus the next time I see it.

Remind me in ten years if I forget. { $\mathbb {JPG}$ } 05:22, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

San Francisco cancels some public gatherings, add?

San Francisco canceled all public gatherings of 1,000 or more people for at least two weeks. In light of the moratorium, the Chase Center will be empty for Thursday’s Golden State Warriors game against the Brooklyn Nets.

• https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Mayor-London-Breed-bans-all-large-gatherings-15123312.php
• https://www.ktvu.com/news/fans-barred-from-warriors-home-game-after-san-francisco-cancels-large-gatherings-over-coronavirus

X1\ (talk) 05:19, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

X1\, User:ViperSnake151 has been updating the U.S. article's "Impact on sports" section, if you're looking for an example or wish to ask for help. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 13:30, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Economic impact

• https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2020-03-12/coronavirus-la-nightlife-clubs-bars
• https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2020-03-12/la-fi-coronavirus-california-economy
• https://www.politico.com/states/california/story/2020/03/06/california-braces-for-economic-fallout-as-coronavirus-spreads-1265879
• https://abc7.com/business/concerns-grow-over-economic-impact-of-coronavirus-in-socal/6008383/

---Another Believer _(Talk) 13:19, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Economic impact (list)

Hi wikipedians, In this section, if you use ref from news article, please also verify from the business, college, or government facility. Please include start and end dates (for temporary closure). Since coronavirus situation is very dynamic, the best ref is the main source and verifiable. Keep the summary short.SWP13 (talk) 02:02, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Homeless population

IMHO, Since there are many homeless people in California, if this infects a homeless person, it will spread like wild fire.SWP13 (talk) 02:37, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

SWP13, I found some sources specifically about the pandemic's impact on homeless populations in Oregon. You might search to see if similar sources exist for California. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:18, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

>>Thanks. I'll try to stay off this topic for awhile.SWP13 (talk) 22:46, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Is there any detailed map tracking the confirmed cases?

Does anyone know if there is a live update (google) map of where exactly the coronavirus cases has been confirmed across California, at least by county? The maps that I found on google so far only shows total number of cases across the entire California, which is not helpful for preventing the spread of the virus!

Is there any people who know how to make a custom google map which can put flags on where the confirmed cases were found or being treated, based on public information? For example, putting flags on NorthBay VacaValley Hospital, Scripps Green Hospital, and the county where cases were confirmed on interactive google map so people are aware and can avoid going to or be extra cautious when traveling to these places?

Thank you. ---Wadawadaw (talk) 17:15, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

>>See coronavirus map from arcgis.com SWP13 (talk) 00:27, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

WikiProject COVID-19

I've created WikiProject COVID-19 as a temporary or permanent WikiProject and invite editors to use this space for discussing ways to improve coverage of the ongoing 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic. Please bring your ideas to the project/talk page. Stay safe, ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:48, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

It would be helpful to have the State level data of "New cases" both in chart form and in graphical form. This is included on a national level, but not state. The reason why this is helpful is that about 2 wks after "shelter in place" the number of new cases begins to level off and then go down (see data on China, South Korea, and now with Italy's shelter in place start date of 3/10, to see that this trend has been consistent). Having the "New Cases" on the state level, will help people see that what they are doing is starting to work, and that the graph is not continuing exponentially. -Jeffery L. Chamberlain MD — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.232.227.249 (talk) 18:44, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Santa Clara County case numbers are incorrect

They don't match the numbers in the citations provided — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vinucube (talk • contribs) 17:36, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

A notable issue is March 22. The country issued both a 4p update and a 5p update for that date.

The 5p is harder to find but is in the wayback machine - https://web.archive.org/web/20200324151518/https://www.sccgov.org/sites/phd/DiseaseInformation/novel-coronavirus/Pages/home.aspx

It gives a number of 321 rather than the 302 they gave for 4p.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.74.77.153 (talk • contribs) 23:28, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

On Wikimedia Commons, there is a data table for Santa Clara County. We noticed and user Mxn addressed a similar discrepancy: I suggest fixing data in this page using the data from there to ensure consistency and reducing redundant effort. See the talk page for details. Michaelcomella (talk) 15:59, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Oh, you're right, I had accidentally changed the number back when reentering the data from Wayback Machine snapshots, thinking that second update from the 22nd was from the 23rd. I've updated the figures accordingly. – Minh Nguyễn ^💬 18:44, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Patients put on ships

USNS Mercy arrives in Los Angeles, CA March 27, 2020

I've only heard it on the radio, but in Los Angeles, if you don't have COVID-19 but you need to be in the hospital, you're getting put on a ship.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 20:05, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

That's the plan; this article already states that the USNS Mercy will receive non-coronavirus patients to relieve the hospital system. – Minh Nguyễn ^💬 00:01, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

And of course it isn't just any ship. It is a US Navy hospital ship. See USNS Mercy (T-AH-19). --Guy Macon (talk) 14:10, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Where is this in the article? I looked under the heading "Hospitals" but didn't see anything.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 17:16, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

The Mercy is mentioned at:

• 2020 coronavirus pandemic in California#March
• U.S. state and local government response to the 2020 coronavirus pandemic#California
• 2020 coronavirus pandemic in the United States#U.S. military response
• Timeline of the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic in March 2020#27 March

--Guy Macon (talk) 17:50, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Okay, I took a second look at "Hospitals". That's a subheading under "Shortage of gear". That explains that.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 18:44, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Too many templates?

I am seeing links to templates instead of the actual templates towards the end of the article:

References

Template:Reflist
External links

Template:Commons category

    California CDPH Office of Public Affairs, news releases by California Department of Public Health (CDPH)
    Governor Newsom Issues New Executive Order Further Enhancing State and Local Government's Ability to Respond to COVID-19 Pandemic (March 12, 2020) – Cancel large gatherings more than 250 people
    Santa Clara County Coronavirus (COVID-19) Data Dashboard

Template:2019–20 coronavirus pandemic Template:2020 coronavirus pandemic in the United States Template:Portal bar 

--Efly (talk) 21:19, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

We are hitting the template size limit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_limits) -- we need to slim down the page or move some content. Looking at the profile, almost half our time is spent on Medical_cases_chart; I think we may need to move the county-level charts off the page. Michaelrhanson (talk) 23:58, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

I created 2020 Coronavirus pandemic in California counties and moved the charts to there. I propose to move the day-by-day timeline to that page as well to tighten up the state-level presentation. Michaelrhanson (talk) 00:10, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Concern: daily case counts in Timeline losing utility?

As someone in an affected county, I've found the data on this page for my county useful for seeing:

1. The current total count (i.e. how bad is it right now?)
2. The trend over time (i.e. how bad is it going to be?) through the Medical Case Count visualization

The Timeline currently provides daily case counts for some counties but I don't think the format is useful for (2). Also, it only seems to be providing numbers in prose so I think it would benefit from a data-oriented format (e.g. a table). Should we find an alternative format that maintains the data but creates a visualization allowing one to see the trend over time? To be honest, I'm not sure what that would look like given the large number of counties we're tracking.

For what it's worth, the Timeline_of_the_2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_the_United_States only contains notable events rather than daily case counts in each of the states and each states' visualization is broken into a separate page.

Thanks for your help! Michaelcomella (talk) 23:32, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

Maybe collapse them too? Needed because they source the chart data.--50.201.195.170 (talk) 01:04, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Agreed (and I'm the editor putting most of the data in); I do wish there was a better place to put day-by-day reportage so that we could generate growth graphs automatically while maintaining the citation trail. Suggestions? Michaelrhanson (talk) 19:19, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Since we hit the template size limit today, I went ahead and created 2020_Coronavirus_pandemic_in_California_counties; barring objections I will rework the timeline section and slim it down in a day or two. Michaelrhanson (talk) 00:13, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Data for missing day

This URL is an official source that has data for the day where a press release wasn't issued. It lists the number of new cases and deaths (instead of a total) but that can easily be calculated.

On the 28th there were 640 new cases and 17 new deaths.

https://public.tableau.com/views/COVID-19PublicDashboard/Covid-19Public?:embed=y&:display_count=no&:showVizHome=no

Can it be added to clean up the chart?

Geekeasy (talk) 18:01, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Maps; do we really need two?

The "Map of the outbreak in California by percent infected" is super useful and tells the reader where the virus is hitting the hardest.

The "Map of the outbreak in California by number of cases" is pretty much useless. If certain counties were to split into two or combine, the colors could change dramatically with no actual change in infections. It makes things look artificially grim in high-population counties and artificially rosy in low-population counties. I say we remove it and keep the "Map of the outbreak in California by percent infected" as our only map.

Is there general agreement, or do I need to post a WP:RFC? --Guy Macon (talk) 19:43, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

I'm in agreement the "number of cases" by county is pretty much useless as they make zero accounting for population density. It reminds me of the red presidential election maps. The problem is maps like that are popular (and equally useless) on the (equally useless) major news outlets. So that would essentially put wikipedia in preferring posting less common graphics. I like the idea, but we might look bad. And what a horrible standard to set that is. Trackinfo (talk) 20:38, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

If you map the 2016 presidential election by county, as we are doing with coronavirus, the map is even more misleading:

What happens when you color in the counties

Who would guess from the above map that the red candidate got 46.1% of the total votes and the blue candidate got 48.2% of the total votes?

So, does anyone object to nuking the misleading map in this article? --Guy Macon (talk) 21:36, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

I think keeping maps to cases/100,000 (with the possibility to expand to mortality/100,000 population) is totally reasonable. Keilana (talk) 00:08, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

OK, I am making the change. --Guy Macon (talk) 13:40, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

No, as discussed on the talk page of the main pandemic page, the overall counts map is far from useless or redundant. (There was also no clear consensus there to completely nuke the total count map.) In fact, displaying only the per capita/density case map can be misleading to newer viewers, especially if a sparsely populated area has a much higher infection ratio than a densely-populated region (even though the more populous region may have a higher overall count). We shouldn't remove the total count map entirely. Even if we show only one map in the main infobox, the overall count map should still be present in the article itself. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 01:26, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

I would like to see that discussion before commenting further. Got a link? Also, could you explain why you think "per capita/density case map can be misleading to newer viewers"? It seems to assert this without giving a reason while ignoring the arguments to the contrary by several editors above. --Guy Macon (talk) 13:24, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Every map at 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic appears to be per million or per 100,000 population. None appear to show cases per county or country regardless of population. Even 2020 coronavirus pandemic in California counties lack one of the misleading per-county maps. --Guy Macon (talk) 03:09, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Park closure on Easter weekend

Consider adding a section on city wide park closure for Easter Sunday. Some sample cities in Southern cities: Long Beach - parks closed until April 19. See news dated March 24, 2020 Los Angeles - parks closed Apr 11 evening to Apr 13 morning. See Release dated April 8, 2020 Pasadena - parks closed Apr 11-12. Otherwise, the parks are open to public during quarantine period. See news dated Apr 9, 2020

If no objection, it can be added to List of cancellations, closures and postponements in California during the 2020 coronavirus pandemic.

Thanks. SWP13 (talk) 09:29, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

WARNING needed re statistics?

I think this article needs a warning, since it's commonly professionally estimated that the undiagnosed cases outnumber diagnosed cases by around 50:1 (depends on the estimate, of course). Just because the US government is hiding it, (unlike South Korea's) doesn't mean we should be violating WP:NPOV by going along with it.

We should be tracking hospital admissions too.

And since the shelter in place order is statewide, how 'bout collapsing the Economic impact lists? They're only of historical relevance now, right? --50.201.195.170 (talk) 01:03, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Got a citation for the claims "it's commonly professionally estimated that the undiagnosed cases outnumber diagnosed cases by around 50:1" or "the US government is hiding it"? For the first claim, see WP:MEDRS. for the second, see WP:RS. Also see WP:OR. --Guy Macon (talk) 14:04, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Are you saying there shouldn't be a warning, or that it would be well sourced. Am I hearing that you dispute that "it's commonly professionally estimated that the undiagnosed cases vastly outnumber diagnosed cases" or widely reported that "the US government is hiding it"? You've gotta be in a bubble not to be aware of either one. --50.201.195.170 (talk) 08:43, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Palm Springs Lockdown and Riverside County Face Coverings Required

On March 17th, Palm Springs went into lockdown (was supposed to expire on April 7th), one of the US' first municipalities to do so. Their BNP Paribas Open in nearby Indian Wells and the Coachella Music and Arts Festival in Indio were postponed and rescheduled after the pandemic ends. And on April 7th, especially for essential workers, face coverings are required in Riverside County in public places. The county is 2nd in the state of the most Covid-19 cases, due to 3 factors: 1. Large senior population, 2. Numbers of people with respiratory illnesses and 3. The Gay male community has a high ratio of HIV/AIDS patients (all three is true in the Coachella Valley). The county is now talking about reopening city and county parks, hair salons and medical clinics in their own discretion, since the number of daily Covid-19 cases began to decline around Easter weekend, and localities have the final say on what non-essential business to open in the next month. 2605:E000:100D:C571:106A:C56A:70AE:9F20 (talk) 20:16, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 May 2020

Please add the following sentence to the section titled "Effects on education": However, by April 29, the school closed indefinitely, making it the last school in the state to do so.

Please also add the following source. https://www.fresnobee.com/news/coronavirus/article242391636.html 173.76.246.128 (talk) 12:42, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

2020 coronavirus pandemic in Los Angeles

Hi Wikipedians, So the largest city in the state of California is Los Angeles. I hope anyone will create article titled 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Los Angeles, The proposed article will be titled as 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Los Angeles will be focused on the pandemic specifically within the city of Los Angeles, California. The propose article will include how many active cases, how many deaths, how many recoveries and how many overall cases within the city of Los Angeles. I will by happy for anyone's reply for the requested article to created and will be only focused on the city of Los Angeles. Thanks for your time. Come back some other time. 2001:569:74D2:A800:BD02:776F:F499:1826 (talk) 08:39, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Moves

@Sir Joseph and Hddty: I'm confused, why was a California page moved to a Germany page? The contents of this page do not match the title. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 03:30, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Another Believer, I'll fix it, I was trying to fix page moves that someone did without moving talk pages and for some reason the Germany page had a California talk page associated with it. Sir Joseph ^(talk) 03:48, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Sir Joseph, OK, thanks. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 03:49, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Sir Joseph, this page's archive is currently at Draft talk:Move/Talk:2020 coronavirus pandemic in Germany/Archive 1. Hddty (talk) 16:30, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Hddty, OK, I moved it to this page's archive. Sir Joseph ^(talk) 17:56, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Lethality by gender and age?

Anyone willing to add a table like Template:2019–20 coronavirus pandemic data/Italy medical cases based on data at https://public.tableau.com/views/COVID-19PublicDashboard/Covid-19Public? Ain92 (talk) 23:14, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Wear mask in public requirement

Do we need a section on mask requirement?

Los Angeles County as of April 10 required face coverings for public places and essential workers alike. There were a few grocery and retail store workers (70?) tested positive for Covid-19 in March and April, 21 of them in the Hollywood Ralphs and 5 others in Westwood Ralphs. It is believed homeless people being highly numerous in these sections of L.A. are bringing in Covid-19 or "super spreaders" in grocery stores, despite associates wear masks, practice social distancing most of the time and regularly given temperature checks in the start of their day shifts. The city of L.A. and county alike will vote on whether to extend this requirement into the summer. 2605:E000:100D:C571:7D82:A683:E434:DB3D (talk) 23:15, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Arcadia - Essential workers are required to wear mask. Residents may wear masks in public but not a requirement. See news dated Apr 9, 2020

Carson - All residents are required to wear a mask.$1000 violation. See news dated Apr 6, 2020

Beverly Hills - All people are required to wear mask in public. See news dated April 9, 2020

Los Angeles (city) - All residents will have to wear face coverings if they go to stores. See news dated Apr 7, 2020

Orange County - Essential workers are required to wear masks. See news dated Apr 9, 2020

Riverside County - All residents are required to wear face coverings in public. There is a fine of $1,000 per violation per day if the mandate. See news dated Apr 7, 2020

San Bernardino County - All residents are required to wear masks in public. See news dated Apr 7, 2020

San Diego County - Essential workers are required to wear masks. See news dated Apr 4, 2020

Thanks, SWP13 (talk) 09:55, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Southern CA in April-May surpassed the SF Bay area in Jan-Mar as the state's most affected counties. The need for more testing in more numerous Orange and San Diego counties were addressed, while Riverside county by suggestions by Rep. Raul Ruiz (D-Palm Springs) who promoted Palm Springs and statewide lockdowns, county facial covering requirements and the community of Idyllwild to sequestration (closed off their community to non-residents) is why they have the most testing per capita of residents. Orange County and its beach cities are involved in conflicts against CA governor Gavin Newsom since April 24 who closed down reopened beaches due to photographs of "very crowded" conditions, except Newport Beach police patrols said the social distancing practices were highly enforced and hardly any violations took place. San Bernardino County voted to end their face covering requirement sometime this May and Riverside County's temporary health ordinances may end in June 19, but the county keeps delaying when to vote on them. The state entered phase 2 to end (partially) their state lockdown which took effect on Mar 17-20 on May 5-8 and may enter phase 3 later in the summer (Jul-Aug?), and the final phase would be after the northern hemisphere winter ends (Nov-Apr 2021) to minimize or prevent a second wave of infections. 2605:E000:100D:C571:7D82:A683:E434:DB3D (talk) 23:12, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

2020 coronavirus pandemic in San Francisco

Hi Wikipedians, So the fourth largest city in the state of California is San Francisco. I hope anyone will create article titled 2020 coronavirus pandemic in San Francisco, The proposed article will be titled as 2020 coronavirus pandemic in San Francisco will be focused on the pandemic specifically within the city of San Francisco, California. The propose article will include how many active cases, how many deaths, how many recoveries and how many overall cases within the city of San Francisco. I will by happy for anyone's reply for the requested article to created and will be only focused on the city of San Francisco. Thanks for your time. Come back some other time. 2001:569:74D2:A800:BD02:776F:F499:1826 (talk) 08:38, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

I don't know how useful it is to splinter to this level. But wouldn't it make more sense to aggregate on a level that policies are being made? In the case of San Francisco, that would be the Bay Area (the six/seven counties). In the mean time, I invite you to create an account and use that for conversations. effeietsanders 22:37, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

@Effeietsanders: It's a little tricky to report statistics about the Bay Area, because of the varying definitions of that term, but I agree that we should have a single consolidated article rather than one for each Bay Area city or county, since the government response and economic effects are area-wide. I pulled together bits of various articles to start COVID-19 pandemic in the San Francisco Bay Area. There's a lot more ground to cover, so any contributions would be welcome. – Minh Nguyễn ^💬 01:57, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

2020 coronavirus pandemic in San Diego

Hi Wikipedians, So the second largest city in the state of California is San Diego. I hope anyone will create article titled 2020 coronavirus pandemic in San Diego, The proposed article will be titled as 2020 coronavirus pandemic in San Diego will be focused on the pandemic specifically within the city of San Diego, California. The propose article will include how many active cases, how many deaths, how many recoveries and how many overall cases within the city of San Diego. I will by happy for anyone's reply for the requested article to created and will be only focused on the city of San Diego. Thanks for your time. Come back some other time. 2001:569:74D2:A800:BD02:776F:F499:1826 (talk) 08:39, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

San Diego now has the 2nd most Covid-19 cases per CA county and Imperial has the highest percentage per county, but health authorities point to Mexico's current peak of Covid-19 when their hospitals in Tijuana and Mexicali are full, and they sent 1000s of people to get tested and treated in San Diego and Imperial valley. I understand San Diego is the second largest city in the state, but 1.5 million in nearby Tijuana is to be considered. In April when the US peaked, Mexico sent hundreds of medical personnel to assist in CA's overwhelmed hospitals which has tampered off, now it's up to Americans to help Mexican border hospitals' ICUs. 2605:E000:100D:C571:6DCE:ABEA:BC50:DF93 (talk) 05:47, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

San Diego cases

The county website now shows 33 cases [1] (up from 8 on Friday). I'm uncertain about editing the table but could someone update the numbers? Thanks. -68.7.103.137 (talk) 04:40, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

>> The table in this seems up to date. It shows 35 infected for San Diego. 33 SD resident +2non-resident. However, I'm not sure since it is very dynamic. SWP13 (talk) 05:55, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

I'm trying to stay on top of it. Reporting across counties is very inconsistent and there isn't always a good source for daily data. Michaelrhanson (talk) 14:49, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Now San Diego county has the state's second largest concentration of confirmed cases, but it includes people from Tijuana sent to San Diego to get tested for COVID-19 when the country Mexico is having issues with providing enough tests and an increase in hospitalizations in San Diego with patients from Tijuana. Same issue applies with patients from Mexicali in Imperial county hospitals and also in Yuma, AZ. Currently, CA has 91-98,000 cases if you include Mexican citizens getting tested on the southern border. 2605:E000:100D:C571:6DCE:ABEA:BC50:DF93 (talk) 23:00, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Discrepancy between cases per 100k and cases per 10k

First of all I would like to say that I am not a statistician and this is also my first time interacting with Wikipedia.

That being said, I think there's an error on the table on the right of the Timeline section. Shouldn't cases by 100k and 10k be exactly the same, just different by a factor of 10? Yet we see some counties with wildly different case rates, such as LA county.

JDMonster (talk) 01:28, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

@JDMonster: thank you for spotting and reporting. It was simultaneously also reported here. I reverted the change that caused this problem for now, so that the people working on this data can take a closer look. I still don't see why the data is even slightly off, but this is within the margin of error when both numbers come from a different source, for example - so there may be an underlying logic. Please keep reading critically and report problems like this! Much appreciated. effeietsanders 01:41, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Continue the article (since April 16) where we left off

On April 17th, Governor Gavin Newsom announced a 4-phase reopening plan for May, which started on the 8th (Phase 2). There was a large cluster of Covid-19 positive cases among 150 poultry plant workers in Kings County. This doubles the total number of cases in a rural county in California which has experienced a month long decline in new daily Covid-19 positive cases. 2605:E000:100D:C571:7D82:A683:E434:DB3D (talk) 05:50, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Update- From 221k to 442k to 660,000 "probable" cases, including 2 serological antibody tests of 3,300 people in Santa Clara and 1,000 in Los Angeles county: they believe 85,000 people in Santa Clara area outside San Jose and half a million L.A county residents were exposed to become immune to SARS-CoV-2 in the first months of 2020, maybe the virus arrived in California in Nov-Dec 2019. 2605:E000:100D:C571:6DCE:ABEA:BC50:DF93 (talk) 22:31, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Phase 3 begins on June 12th for most of the state except 7 Bay Area counties and Imperial county with their own reopening plans. Due to more testing, there are more daily cases through contact tracing, while the rate of daily tests which turned out positive is lower now. Phase 3 reopens higher-risk businesses, while phase 2 already reopened medium-risk, and phase 1 developed a contact tracing program. Phases 2 and 3 require safety modifications like social distancing to reduce viral transmission, which the rate has declined under the lockdown. Antibody tests in many parts of California like Riverside county found 5-6% of locals could been exposed to SARS-CoV-2 the virus that leads to COVID-19, a possibility the virus has been around longer and only 1 out of 10 were confirmed positive cases. 2605:E000:100D:C571:4C1D:EB7D:B365:D7B4 (talk) 01:31, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Clarifying stage 3 announcement timeline

The statement that "Early in June Governor Newsom announced" does not appear to be accurate, regarding the source or date of the announcement. The June reports from ABC7 and the Sacramento Bee don't cite an announcement from the Governor, regarding moving into Stage 3. The Governor's Newsroom has no such announcement. Both reports do discuss the background about the roadmap, but this was previously announced by the Department of Health. I added that background into the timeline. Have those four new additions covered the topic?

Also, the rest of the "Early in June..." paragraph has a good summary, but I'm not sure how to integrate it smoothly with the four additions I made. Help would be appreciated. Yakmandango (talk) 19:01, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Since Newsom was just repeating the official announcements, I removed that part and moved the Stage 3 summery up to where it is first mentioned in the section. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 03:15, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Discrepancies in case count

There's an excess of 50,000 cases the state's COVID-19 pandemic case count didn't accurately report, said the California Department of Public Health (CDPH). Just like in Florida, Georgia, Texas and CA's neighbors Nevada and Arizona, the lack of enough testing enough of the state's or national population indicates there are more cases not reported. CA's Imperial, San Joaquin and Salinas valleys are state and national COVID-19 hotspots (per capita of county and region population) ahead of more populous major cities like San Francisco, Los Angeles and San Diego. 2605:E000:100D:C571:8C36:F847:196F:592 (talk) 00:34, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Cleaning up timeline?

How would everyone feel about me taking a stab at consolidating the timeline a bit, now that some time has passed and we can prioritize information? I will be working over the next week or more on the content in my sandbox, here, should anyone want to take a look and share thoughts before I port it over. Oughtta Be Otters (talk) 18:12, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Looking at the content, I am thinking that I will keep a month-by-month format, but look to move from a daily update to pulling out major themes from the month in question and cover those in a more narrative fashion.

For example, Jan/Feb were defined by early individual diagnoses, leap to community spread, and quarantining of large numbers of people possibly exposed individuals (such as on the Diamond Princess and State Department employees/families stationed in Wuhan) on California military bases.

Oughtta Be Otters (talk) 01:30, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Temporary removal of case breakdown by county

I've temporarily removed the table of cases broken down by county. See this discussion for the rationale and next steps. – Minh Nguyễn ^💬 00:53, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Resignation of CA public health director Sonia Angell

She was overlooking the state's total COVID-19 case count which had computer glitches and intentional undercounts to force premature reopening of many counties, she resigned on August 10th. Also on that day, Trini Lopez died in Palm Springs at age 83 from COVID-19, since he's a celebrity to lived in CA just like Nick Cordero. And Gov Gavin Newsom explained we had on average 4-6,000 new daily cases, but a backlog of 5-7,000 on average in the first 2 weeks of Aug., but I think we need to add more to the article as the COVID-19 pandemic continues in CA, the USA (5+ million) and worldwide (20+ million). 2605:E000:100D:C571:8C36:F847:196F:592 (talk) 22:35, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

References

Wildfire evacuation order implications

California's wildfire evacuation policy to keep access roads clear for emergency vehicles would seem to run contrary to the stay at home travel restrictions imposed to limit COVID-19 infection rates. It would be helpful to describe California state coordination of these two issues with respect to evacuation center protocols. Thewellman (talk) 14:18, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Anticipating parallel problems with the Atlantic hurricane season, I've drafted an early version of a comprehensive Emergency evacuation procedures during the COVID-19 pandemic. I will be looking for additional sources as the situation unfolds in California, and I encourage others to edit this article. Thewellman (talk) 21:56, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

More counties off the state COVID case watch list

I recall Alameda, Contra Costa and Santa Clara in the SF Bay Area were taken off earlier in Aug., and proposals to have Imperial, Riverside and San Bernardino in the southern half of CA in Sep., the decrease of daily new cases could make the state government relax restrictions in a number of urban or metro area counties. 2605:E000:100D:C571:E991:F57D:AB2E:F038 (talk) 01:49, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Currently (Sep 8), 35 counties are in the "widespread" or purple in the state's new list to determine which counties can safely reopen, mostly rural counties north of the 40th parallel and the Sierra Nevadas are the least infected (in orange) and a very few are in red. 2605:E000:100D:C571:9196:A1F2:33B1:81EA (talk) 18:18, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Daily case data for counties SJ SF LA : include per capita and difference (acceleration) ?

Include for counties SJ SF LA : per capita and difference (acceleration) with Daily case data ? T3g5JZ50GLq (talk) 06:27, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

SJ as in San Joaquin? One of the first counties to reopen farther down in the state in May, Riverside county voted to end their 40 days of stricter regulations to curb the spread of COVID-19 in May 11. There were clusters in Kings-Tulare counties who should have waited longer to reopen, even the governor Gavin Newsom on May 26 gave them an dishonorable mention in his daily COVID-19 pandemic briefings. Note the northernmost counties and least populated areas hardly had cases, only one: Modoc remains without a single COVID-19 case as of May 29. 2605:E000:100D:C571:6DCE:ABEA:BC50:DF93 (talk) 23:05, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Los Angeles County Health Dept. officials estimated the percentage of local population infected with COVID-19 at 7% when they combined 4.5% with possible antibodies, 1.1% who had confirmed cases and 1.5% currently infected on July 1st without getting tested. 2605:E000:100D:C571:A8BB:CE5:5FFF:7B6A (talk) 00:28, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

LA County, the CDPH, CDC and WHO made a new configuration of how many suspected COVID-19 cases are there. 15% of L.A. County (1.5 million locals), 12% of California (4.5 million residents), 20-100 million Americans (6-30%) and 600-780 million worldwide (7-10%) were suspected to been infected with COVID-19. I supposed we're among the top 3 counties (along with Riverside and San Diego) out of 3 states (close to Florida and New York state) out of hardest-hit 3 nations (India and Brazil similarly infected). Adinneli (talk) 03:27, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

A new propose requested article titled COVID-19 pandemic in Los Angeles

Hi Wikipedia, as of right the state of California is now the worse infected state that surpasses the state of New York. I hope anyone to create the title called COVID-19 pandemic in Los Angeles. Currently, the title COVID-19 pandemic in Los Angeles is still a redirect. Los Angeles, is now the worse infected city in the United States. The new title COVID-19 pandemic in Los Angeles will focusing on California's largest city and the second largest city in the United States on how many confirmed cases and how many deaths and the city wide state of emergency was declared back in March. The title COVID-19 pandemic in New York City was already created as an article some months ago that focuses on New York City. Comments are welcome to consider turning from a redirect into a created article for COVID-19 pandemic in Los Angeles for proposal. Thank you. Steam5 (talk) 06:31, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

FYI: Vaccinations available in Los Angeles County : .... 0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 23:19, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

A new propose requested article titled COVID-19 pandemic in San Diego

I hope someone creates COVID-19 pandemic in San Diego. Currently, the title COVID-19 pandemic in San Diego is still a redirect.

FYI: Vaccinations available in San Diego County

.... 0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 23:19, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Vaccinations in Los Angeles County & San Diego County:: Expanding article

@Numberguy6: would you put back: the vaccine type, and hours, back in as <ref></ref> ?

• →‎Vaccinations in Los Angeles County:: Expanding article
• →‎Vaccinations in San Diego County: Expanding article

.... 0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 23:54, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

I will put back the vaccine type, but the opening hours do not belong. See WP:NOTDIR. --Numberguy6 (talk) 23:56, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

@Numberguy6: crowd-sourced, cold-called vaccine locations:

https://www.vaccinateca.com/near-me

.... 0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 23:57, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Reference list gone

Reference list has disappeared, probably due to template limits. Anyone more knowledgeable about this want to fix this? Victory in Germany (talk) 22:11, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Supreme Court halts California pandemic restrictions on at-home worship

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/10/supreme-court-california-coronavirus-worship-480702

I'm no native speaker ... may a fellow wikipedian add that to the article ? tanks in advance :-) --Präziser (talk) 20:48, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Tuolumne County BSE assignment

On September 1, the day that BSE assignments were made public (I think) after being finalized on August 31, Tuolumne County was at Moderate. However, this screenshot from the Solano County website shows Tuolumne County at Minimal. This screenshot was probably taken before September 1; I did not check the BSE website at any point before then. Were there separate BSE assignments from August 28 to August 31, before the September 1 reassignment? I can't find any official documents that back this up. --Numberguy6 (talk) 01:16, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

I just found this document from Santa Cruz County, published August 28, that talks about BSE and says that updates will start on September 8. --Numberguy6 (talk) 00:20, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

What is "BSE" abbreviating? There is no explanation in the article, and the disambiguation page for BSE has Bovine spongiform encephalopathy as the only possibly relevant medical abbreviation. --Ben Best:Talk 15:25, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

@Benbest: "Blueprint for a Safer Economy", the state's reopening plan. I clarified it in the article. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 03:40, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, @Richard-of-Earth: I have modified the BSE disambiguation page with the acronym, but you may want to modify the explanation. --Ben Best:Talk 10:11, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Looks fine to me. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 17:33, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

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