Talk:Brian Eno/Archive 2

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In 2010, Eno was invited to serve as a mentor for the Rolex Mentor and Protégé Arts Initiative, an international philanthropic programme that pairs masters in their disciplines with emerging talents for a year of one-to-one creative exchange. Out of a very gifted field of candidates, Eno chose Ben Frost, a young Australian musician living in Iceland, as his protégé.[1] RMP2014 (talk) 14:11, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Did it attract any significant press coverage? --McGeddon (talk) 14:27, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
Yes, there was some press coverage, The Telegraph did a whole article.[2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by RMP2014 (talkcontribs) 09:01, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

footnotes

References

XP installation music

During the installation of Windows XP, a piece of music plays in the background which has been variously credited to Brian Eno and Suzanne Ciani.[1][2] The composer of this piece is unclear, and needs a reliable source.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 06:11, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

What is his name?

The lede and info box both give his name as originally Brian Peter George Eno. But also says his name is Brian Peter George St John le Baptiste de la Salle Eno.

So when did he add the extra. Did he change it to commemorate his school? MidlandLinda (talk) 22:50, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

This source says: "Educated at St Joseph's College, Birkfield, Ipswich, which was founded by the St John le Baptiste de la Salle order of Catholic brothers (from whom he took his additional name when a student) ..." Martinevans123 (talk) 22:54, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
The Suffolk Eno stem from Walloon religious refugees named Hen(n)ot or Henoth. Through this origin, Brian Eno is distantly related to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katharina_Henot . As an interesting fact, also Katharina Henoth as well as her father Jacob Henot https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Henot (whose familiar origins were near Liège in the Walloon part of Belgium) were postmasters. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.219.90.60 (talk) 13:03, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. Very interesting, although apparently unconnected to his middle names. Do have any reliable source for this ancestry/connection? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:33, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
The middle names have been made up by Brian Eno maybe as a souvenir to his school upbringing. One maybe should contact him personally why he adopted these names. The proof for blood relationship to the family of Katharina Henot can be found partially on the web. If not suffient for your purposes, contact the genealogists on Belgian and German genealogy reseach pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:46:1A0B:1B75:2004:5C52:66C7:E94A (talk) 23:44, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

What's up with this? A Shutov fan? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sruSctDIxfc — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:D40:B130:849:B00D:B2FE:295 (talk) 18:49, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

It's silly and tasteless to include his confirmation name. *EVERY* Catholic "takes" another name on confirmation; these are practically never used; they are rarely registered in civil records. Does Eno use his? If not, I vote for cutting them out. Unless WP plans to revise its articles on *EVERY* Catholic. Wegesrand (talk) 13:51, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Eno's connections

I'm curious as to why Low isn't credited on the Bowie link in this illustration, seeing as how the second side is basically Eno and Tony Visconti (as with Heroes)? As well, seeing as this diagram is from Enoweb, what is the copyright situation? Kaini (talk) 21:59, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

An even greater omission is the single link to Phil Manzanera through "801 Live", considering that they were in Roxy Music together, Manzanera's solo albums, the Quiet Sun album "Mainstream" album, at least three of Eno's solo albums, just to name a few. He has collaborated with Manzanera probably more than with any other artist. So whoever made that drawing was woefully uninformed. Gil gosseyn (talk) 16:34, 7 April 2017 (UTC)


Stopping wars?

if they really wanted to stop the war in Syria they target Russia. The link is to an article by Jonathan Freedland, just to illustrate that their view of themselves is challenged, and isn't the reasonable, self evident assertion you claim it to be. To say they oppose all bombs is propaganda because they are selectively vocal, selectively silent. Come on Martin, you're not this stupid.78.144.80.249 (talk) 22:53, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

You seem to be using an article by Jonathan Freedland in The Guardian to make a political point about the Stop the War Coalition. What's that got to do with Brian Eno? The article says "... established ... to campaign against what it believes are unjust wars." So maybe we should use that description? Martinevans123 (talk) 07:35, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

the "frippertronics" tape-delay thing...

... has been in use by many others before eno, e.g. steve reich, terry riley, pauline oliveiros & others.

eno himself used the two revoxes bought with roxy's advance to treat mackay's sax in the middle of a demo version of '2HB'.

I don't know how to get this OR into the article convincingly, but something needs to be done about the current para which suggests to the unwary that eno invented the technique.

duncanrmi (talk) 05:06, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

The basic idea of tape echo was available the 1950s. Frippertronics is a variation which places two tape recorders some distance apart, allowing delays of up to ten seconds. Stigler's law of eponymy is involved here, because Robert Fripp wasn't the first person to have this idea, although he did make use of it as a feature of his work. The article Frippertronics doesn't claim that he invented the technique, which is fair.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 05:41, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

Pigeon-fancying reverted

I recently reverted this edit which claimed that Eno was into pigeon fancying. There was no support in the cited source. —Mark Dominus (talk) 13:54, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

'No Pussyfooting'

This album not in discography but mentioned in text. This was the first release after Eno left Roxy which isn't clear - it was released before the solo album "Here Come the Warm Jets". It was also the price of a single. It's a collaboration - Fripp & Eno - it should have a place. It's also considered by some as a precursor to the later ambient albums. I'll look for citation on this.Thelisteninghand (talk) 17:46, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

I agree. A source should be easily found. Not sure how "ambient" it was though! Martinevans123 (talk) 17:53, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
p.s. here's a 2017 tour trailer. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:56, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for that. Seeing the complete discography has its own article I have not added (No Pussyfooting) - did add 'Small Craft on a Milk Sea' and some other edits. But I wonder whether the discography here should be deleted?Thelisteninghand (talk) 15:07, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Articles do vary. But standard practice seems to be to leave the main albums. It does say:
"This is an incomplete list, see Brian Eno discography"
Martinevans123 (talk) 16:16, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Eno - 'Musician'

Hi - I've just changed Brian Eno's occupation! As the opening line states he's a musician it can't be right that he's described as a record producer. He's also listed WP 'Musicians'. I know he hates the description but was denied a request to enter "non-musician" in his British passport. Thelisteninghand (talk) 16:38, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Foreverandevermore description

from https://www.brian-eno.net/ : "Brian Eno releases his latest studio album FOREVERANDEVERNOMORE today (October 14) on vinyl, CD, digital formats and Dolby Atmos Blu-ray (Super Deluxe Edition exclusive). The record was made at his studios in West London and Norfolk. A song-based album, Brian’s vocals are featured on the majority of the 10 tracks, which makes it a first since 2005’s ‘Another Day On Earth’. On FOREVERANDEVERNOMORE Brian experimented using tonal over major chord changes: “My voice has changed, it’s lowered, it’s become a different personality I can sing from. I don’t want to sing like a teenager, it can be melancholic, a bit regretful. As for writing songs again – it’s more landscapes, but this time with humans in them.” “I like creating worlds, that’s what I do as an artist, creating sonic worlds. Now after quite a long absence of humans in those worlds I have tried putting one in and seeing how they feel in the world I’ve made.” Brian Eno"

Given the volatile nature of the web and the lack of a specific entry for this album adequate to describe the diversity and specificity of construction of this album as compared to other instrumentals, perhaps it will be helpful for this quote to find its way somewhere in some entry or part of this one. 176.206.242.131 (talk) 02:11, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

A very, very, very long article

It's length is inversely proportional to the importance of the subject, and in direct proportion to the desire to use Wikipedia for self-promotion.

Oh dear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.139.218.171 (talk) 23:58, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

It is quite a long article, but it is within WP:SIZERULE guidelines at around 69 kB of text in the main body.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 07:52, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
Why do you think the subject is less important than other comparable contemporary musicians? But you're also suggesting that Mr Eno has added lots of material to this article for "self promotion"? If so, you'll need to present the evidence here and then to mark this Talk page with a WP:COI tag. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:30, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
“Mr” Eno is a certifiable blowhard. I’d bet dollars-to-donuts that he was the one pumping up this article. This page, while EXTREMELY well written, could do with a haircut (if not a shave with the #2 attachment). 2601:192:4C7F:C155:B4CC:B447:E6A:926C (talk) 17:01, 4 September 2023 (UTC)