Talk:Bill Deedes

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This isn't a stub. It's a decent article. Shome mishtake shurely.

"Man" or "individual?"

The previous word form referring to Deedes position as both a cabinet minister and newspaper editor allows the reader to think that a woman has filled both roles. I am sure that this has not yet been the case; Rachel Beer, Rosie Boycott, Patsy Chapman, Wendy Henry, Mary Howarth, Eve Pollard, Bridget Rowe, Sarah Sands, Rebekah Wade and Patience Wheatcroft are still the only women to have edited a national newspsper, though I have doubtless forgotten someone, and none of them has or became MPs or peers, let alone cabinet ministers. Arguably, given Beatherbrook's dominence of his editors and his cabinet position under Churchill, the point is slightly misleading anyway. Philip Cross 21:03, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Surely George Lansbury was the editor of the Daily Herald and First Commissioner of Works in MacDonald's second government - so Deedes is not the only person to have achieved this. Warofdreams talk 19:04, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

What about The Evening Standard? It is not a national newspaper but is certainly a "major daily newspaper". Michael Foot was both editor of The Evening Standard and a member of the Wilson and Callaghan cabinets. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.2.37.103 (talk) 10:34, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

last survivor?

Is Deedes the last survivor of Macmillan's cabinet? john k 16:53, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

I believe he was, at the time of his death. Tony Barber still survives from the Douglas-Home cabinet. Sam Blacketer 19:48, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Correction, not since 2005 he doesn't. Looks like Denis Healey has become the earliest surviving Cabinet member. Sam Blacketer 19:50, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Lord Carrington was First Lord of the Admiralty under Macmillan from 1963. That means he also predates Healey as a Minister. Also according to his Wiki page and served in the Conservative administrations of Winston Churchill and Anthony Eden as Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry for Agriculture and Food from November 1951 to October 1954 and to the Ministry of Defence from October 1954 to October 1956. --jmb 19:29, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Carrington did hold those offices (First Lord from 1959 actually) but they were outside the Cabinet. Sam Blacketer 22:08, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Carrington was Minister without Portfolio and Leader of the Lords in the Douglas-Home ministry so was in the Cabinet. Alec Douglas-Home#Sir Alec Douglas-Home's Government, October 1963 – October 1964. Timrollpickering 14:13, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

lisp

Not sure if it was a lisp; maybe idiolect; maybe even dialect.

Irish Connection

Bill Deedes was Irish on his mother's side. She was born Melesina Chenevix Trench. Her family were Chenevix solicitors in Merrion Square, Dublin and her great uncle was Archbishop of Dublin. Millbanks 15:51, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

final article

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2007/08/24/do2401.xml

was published on the telegraph online today.

this would be his final work? not what is said in artcle? (comments about the article are at the end of the page in the link above)

Neosophist 02:59, 24 August 2007 (UTC)