Talk:Betws, Carmarthenshire

Country?

Thx for the article, but per norm please give broader location info (eg country) in the first sentence. Hope this helps, "alyosha" (talk) 02:53, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

"Not to be confused with ..."

... any of these either? There seems little point in making that statement: unless you tell people, they won't be confused!

• Betws, Bridgend
• Betws, Carmarthenshire
• Betws, Isle of Anglesey
• Betws Bledrws, Ceredigion
• Betws Disserth, Powys
• Betws Fawr, Gwynedd
• Betws Garmon, Gwynedd
• Betws Ifan, Ceredigion
• Betws-yn-Rhos, Conwy

All of them can be found by logging on here. The article tends towards too much POV - despite all the protestations about "not being anything to do with Ammanford", the village is actually linked with the town in the name of the parish! The Xlink makes that quite clear. Peter Shearan 05:30, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

I've had a shot at a rewrite, putting the POV stuff under "other notes". They might be interesting, but not vital to the facts, surely? Peter Shearan 05:48, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

this article fails in two ways

1 - for anyone from north wales, Betws is 'Betws Y Coed' to which there is no reference

2 - it does not describe what a Betws actually is - a hermitage of a celtic saint

08:06, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

disambiguation?

Betws, Carmarthenshire - this article! Betws, Isle of Anglesey Betws Bledrws, Ceredigion Betws Disserth, Powys Betws Fawr, Gwynedd Betws Ifan, Ceredigion Betws Garmon, Gwynedd Betws-y-Coed Betws yn Rhos, Conwy Bettws, Bridgend county borough Bettws Cedewain Bettws, Newport Bettws-y-Crwyn

Bettws - attempted disambiguation

Ewen 10:51, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

I've moved this page to Betws, Carmarthenshire with view to moving the disambiguation page to the "Betws" name. There are numerous places with the "Betws" name, several of which are better known. Sionk (talk) 13:20, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Yes, but every other town/village called Betws is called Betws something or Bettws. Betws in Carmarthenshire is the best known place called simply 'Betws'. Ewen (talk) 21:54, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Hence the previous hatnote " For other places called Betws or Bettws, see Bettws (disambiguation)" eh? For example Betws-y-Coed is much better known and often referred to simply as Betws. Sionk (talk) 22:07, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

"Often" is subjective whereas there's only one place that's only ever referred to as Betws. Ewen (talk) 17:38, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Regardless of that, there are several other places that are commonly associated with the name, probably more so than Betws, Carmarthenshire. Sionk (talk) 23:59, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

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Anglo Saxon?

What is this nonsense about Betws, chapel in Welsh, being derived from Anglo-Saxon? The Welsh were Christian before the English ever arrived in Britain, and the first English were of course pagan. It makes no sense to me that this would be the case, and the links are far from authoritative. Aredbeardeddwarf (talk) 14:12, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

It is fairly well-attested "nonsense" and can be found in other sources too [1]. It's not relevant that the Welsh were Christian before the Saxons because the word could have been borrowed from English at a later date; Not all Welsh vocabulary dates from the time when the English were pagan. In this case, it's a Middle English (11th-15th centuries) word bedhus that's said to be the origin. Ewen (talk) 20:58, 11 August 2020 (UTC)