Talk:Battle of the Indus/Archive 1
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- Ensured that the article is: within project scope, tagged for task forces, and assessed for class.
dem numbers
At the battle of Parwan(same year, 1221) Jalal ad-Din had(according to wiki page) 60.000 soldiers under his command. In a quarrel over spoil, he lost half his army
60.000 / 2 = 30.000
Yet this wiki-page, battle of Indus, same year, claims his army only shrinked by 10.000 men... wtf?
were most available Khwarezimd forces heading towards the indus, so Jalal ad-Din's army was quickly replenished, or is this just one of those incontinuty battle? 2.69.50.158 (talk) 12:16, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
Harper's military encyclopedia does not give any number about this battle - delete it please.
Current version of the article cites "Trevor N. Dupuy and R. Ernest Dupuy, The Harper Encyclopedia of Military History, (Harper Collins Publishers, 1993), 366." as source for Khwarazmian strength being 30 - 35 thousand men. The encyclopedia is with me right now, I took a look at the relevant page and other pages as well. It does not feature any number about strength of either side. If permitted, I can even post photo of the relevant part. So, please delete it --Ruhubelent (talk) 14:24, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
UPDATE: I have just seen it does. Sorry. My bad. I strokethrough my initial discussion. + it does state Chingiz khan had Fifty thousand men, I will add it into the text. --Ruhubelent (talk) 14:29, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
UPDATE 2: Actually, the encyclopedia still does not give numerical info about this battle. It talks of 30 000 men from the previous battle. It says at the Battle of Parwan section: "The Prince withdrew into the northern Punjab with 30 000 men. Genghis followed with more than 50,000." That is all. Then comes this battle's section without any number. --Ruhubelent (talk) 15:01, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
Chagatai and Oghedei khan also partook in this battle
It is mentioned both in contemporary and modern accounts. Juvaini mentions it, and here is an example of a modern source mentioning it: https://books.google.com.tr/books?id=uV9jAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA436&dq=Battle+of+Indus&hl=tk&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjwwIznhdXsAhUINOwKHYxNC7UQ6AEwCXoECAkQAg#v=onepage&q=Battle%20of%20Indus&f=false Let us add them as well --Ruhubelent (talk) 15:11, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
Of Carl Sverdrup assessing the Djerdin
Hello, @HistoryofIran:. The edit you reverted was previously deleted due to a confusion on a source (I made that addition and confusion). Earlier, Sakura emad made your objection and here is the explanation I gave him (which convinced him):
{{citation}}: Empty citation (help)
Respond here if you have further objection so that I can make it clear. In short, I was the one that added that assessment. Upon further reading, I discoverd I have confused the battles. Kind regards, --81.213.215.83 (talk) 21:15, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- No objection, thanks for explaining. --HistoryofIran (talk) 21:19, 18 August 2021 (UTC)