Talk:Bakarwal

Latest comment: 9 months ago by Sitush in topic History section

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Society section copyright problem or plagiarism edit

The content of the "Society" section was added along with other content, on 25 October 2015 by IP editor 27.97.7.206 without any citations. The same text was published a year later in Suri, Kavita; Raina, Permilla (2016). "A study of educational status of tribal Bakkarwal children of Kalakote Block in Rajouri District of Jammu and Kashmir" (PDF). Asian Journal of Multidisciplinary Studies. 4 (11): 72–81. It is not clear if the IP editor copied from a prepublication copy of the Suri & Raina paper, or whether Suri & Raina copied from the Wikipedia without citation. Given that Suri has been publishing about the Bakarwal since at least 2013, it might seem unlikely that such an author would need to plagiarise the Wikipedia concerning such a description. It is also possible that Suri's description of Bakarwal society was drawn from an earlier paper of hers and was just reproduced in her October 2016 paper, thus providing the IP editor with the text a year earlier in October 2015. On this basis it might possibly be a copyright violation and I have marked it with the {{Copyright violation}} template. What gives me pause, however, is the appearence in the Suri & Raina paper of text from the Wikipedia that was not added by 27.97.7.206. Most notable, is that by April 2015 the Wikipedia article stated inter-marriages freely take place among them with a citation that confirms, however in May 2015 IP editor 123.239.164.149 changed that to inter-marriages dont take place among them with this edit, and then the Suri & Raina paper apes the incorrect information stating inter-marriages do not take place among them. The Wikipedia article was not corrected from 123.239.164.149's spurious edit until May 2017 with this edit by InformavoreSultan, at which time the text again conformed with the cited source. That suggests that the Suri & Raina paper copied the Wikipedia. --Bejnar (talk) 22:01, 25 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

History section edit

I note the section above expressing concern about copyright issues. The history section of the article also has them, being a close paraphrase of the TRCF report cited. It isn't a great source anyway: it reports what one Bakarwal activist said, which is pretty much as opposed to WP:RS as can be got. At best, it should be replaced; at worst, it needs a re-write. - Sitush (talk) 15:58, 6 August 2023 (UTC)Reply