Talk:Ayutthaya–Lan Na War (1441–1474)

Latest comment: 8 years ago by Djmaschek in topic Geography

Geography edit

The article would be helped if the locations of Ayutthaya and Lan Na could be given approximate geographic locations within modern SE Asia. The map in the Ayutthaya article shows another nation between it and Lan Na which is puzzling. If nothing else can be done, it would still be helpful if the article said Ayutthaya was to the south and Lan Na was to the north. (Is that correct?) Djmaschek (talk) 05:04, 29 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

The kingdom in-between is the Sukhothai Kingdom which was divided between the two over a century before the conflict started.The problem is that many of the cities involved in the conflict are redlinked so it is hard to understand where the fighting took place.I inserted passages mentioning that Ayutthaya was to the south and Lan Na was to the north to add clarity.--Catlemur (talk) 13:16, 29 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

Coverage B2=no. This is such an obscure event (for English-language readers at least) that it might be useful to put this war into a wider context. Otherwise it's a fight between two strange-sounding kingdoms without even an interesting princess involved (see The Legend of Suriyothai - which I've seen). A short paragraph about the Lan Na and Ayutthaya Kingdoms in the early 1400s and another at the end through 1500 might help. Were the kingdoms becoming stronger or in decline? Were Lan Na and other territories absorbed later by Burma? Here are more comments. You may change anything back of course. Thanks. Djmaschek (talk) 03:48, 2 September 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • Are Thao Lok and Thao Long the same person? Please fix.
  • I made some edits as noted in the edit summary: used modern Chiang Mai instead of alt name to make it easier to find, used Phrae province instead of Prae. I see what you mean about the difficulty with place names. Is Nan, Thailand the same as Muong Nan? It's not clear.
  • This sentence was repeated in the intro and narrative. I changed words in the intro to make it less repetitive. "Lan Na was weakened by a combination of internal power struggles and casualties suffered during the conflict."
  • I added this to the intro: "Ayutthaya formed what is now the central and southern parts of modern Thailand while Lan Na approximated northern Thailand."
I made the changes that I requested above and added a picture (B5=y). Djmaschek (talk) 02:12, 6 September 2015 (UTC)Reply