Talk:Australia's Next Top Model

INFO ADDED

hey everyone i added alot of info to the page and included a winner statistics section. let me know wat u think and any spelling errors or anthing i missed thanks jack90 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.165.128.56 (talk) 06:22, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Winner Statistics

There should be a Winner Statistics section. There are 4 winners and I think that is enough for a section —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.111.36.35 (talk) 13:10, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, statistics isn't encyclopedic and violates OR. ApprenticeFan ^{talk contribs} 01:15, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Dannii Minogue as host

I don't think so. That's an unsubstantiated rumour. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.218.79.211 (talk) 12:03, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

• I corrected it as Meares is returning as host 82.13.204.52 (talk) 22:51, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

• WHERES YOUR SOURCE?? jack90 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.176.69.81 (talk) 10:59, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Call-out order colors

Further information: Talk:International versions of Top Model § Call-out table colors

Call-out table format

I will publicly say this. I don't care if the aussie articles look somewhat different to the American articles. Just because it is based on the American series doesn't mean the articles have to be entirely dependent upon the formatting. OUR call-out tables are white in the void areas instead of black because it conforms to the Wikipedia manual of style WP:MOS while the black tables do not. I hope all those IP editors understand the point I am trying to get across here. Thanks.

P.S. Just a warning, if the articles continue to be disturbed in a major way, I will seek semi-protection of the cycle 5 article. Hope all is understood. If you have any questions, please leave them here. --Lakeyboy (talk) 09:47, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Speaking of taking things from the US show, there was an inconsistency with the makeovers about what to call the fringe/bangs. Both words were used, so to make it consistent, on all the cycle pages, I've changed it to fringe. Ditto one instance with the UK version. Save the Americanisms for the American version. Digifiend (talk) 22:20, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Cycle 3 contestants

There has been an edit war about the number of contestants of Cycle 3. The season was originally in 12 contestants in first episode and one episode was added at the ending of first episode and made it to thirteen. So, don't change it unless I noted it on the article. ApprenticeFan ^{talk contribs} 16:44, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Getting some sort of block on edits?

Is there any chance of getting some sort of block on the edits? The last few days has seen a few people come in and change the Cycle 5 winner and runner up from TBA to various names when noone knows the outcome of the live final until it's shown on Fox 8. Having some sort of block or possible moderation of the edits may stop this sort of thing from happening. Paigeangels (talk) 12:29, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

• Just ask for temporary semi-protection at WP:RPP. If the vandalism is recent, they will almost always grant the request. Plastikspork (talk) 13:47, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Cycle 6 spoilers

I saw an info about the upcoming season's spoilers, maybe this edit came from May 30th, IP users added the contestants for the upcoming cycle from an Australian source. Please sure we will wait for the official reliable source from FOX8 website. ApprenticeFan ^work 01:50, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

• The names that have been posted here were from an official press release that FOX8 posted on its blog on throng (http://www.throng.com.au/australias-next-top-model/revealed-16-finalists-australias-next-top-model-cycle-6), also, sections with contestant names have been made on Fox8's forums by administrative staff (http://www.fox8.tv/forum/viewforum.php?f=78), press photos have been sent out detailing the names of contestants and have been published by numerous news sources (http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/finalists-revealed-for-next-australias-next-top-model-20100518-v9py.html), these are all just as reliable as the Fox8 website and probably aren't considered spoilers since it's readily available, published information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.214.58.17 (talk) 13:38, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

As stated that Throng website (link above) is not meet WP:RS guidelines. Make sure we will wait the official source, not the blog, Blogs are not reliable sources. Spoilers are not allowed in Wikipedia. ApprenticeFan ^work 16:40, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

New Judge

There's a new judge this season of Australia's Next Top Model. Josh Flinn is replacing Jez Smith. Ciao! --Lena Cops (talk) 12:58, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Cycle 7 finalists

There are 20 standard finalists for the seventh series of the show, so do not revert until consensus is gratified. ApprenticeFan ^work 10:30, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

You are like a mess ApprenticeFan. At first, you did not allow us to edit the article about semi-finallists having the advantages of finallists. Now you allow. What do you think? 1.52.33.52 (talk) 12:24, 11 January 2012 (UTC).

Cycle 8 finalists

The top 15 was already revealed, but the show hasn't even started yet. So please if you add spoilers use trustful sources whoever has created this. Matze-bepy123 (talk) 18:56, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Contestants lists

I moved all the contestants tables up from where they were at the bottom, to the top (before the episode summaries begin) because the contestants were being described there before we even knew who the contestants were. I think the move makes their identification in the articles easier. 2601:241:0:EA46:D023:D3C4:987F:839A (talk) 00:29, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

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Results c1-10

Revising call-out tables to include challenges, as i feel they are more informative. Discuss? I don't feel like they are too heavy on color, thoughts? 2601:241:8500:D525:857D:CBAA:E7AF:5963 (talk) 02:21, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

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Cycle 1 Order Episodes 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 1 Chloe Gemma Simmone Shannon Chloe Sam Shannon Chloe Gemma 2 Allana Sam Gemma Sam Sam Shannon Gemma Gemma Chloe 3 Simmone Shannon Sam Simmone Simmone Chloe Chloe Shannon 4 Shannon Chloe Zoe Gemma Gemma Gemma Sam 5 Zoe Simmone Chloe Chloe Shannon Simmone 6 Gemma Atong Shannon Zoe Zoe 7 Sam Zoe Allana Allana 8 Atong Allana Atong 9 Nicole Nicole 10 Naomi Cycle 2 Order Episodes 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 1 Eboni Madeleine Louise Madeleine Simone Eboni Jessica Eboni Eboni 2 Caroline Simone Madeleine Simone Madeleine Simone Eboni Jessica Jessica 3 Jessica Jessica Lara Eboni Louise Jessica Simone Simone 4 Simone Eboni Simone Lara Jessica Madeleine Madeleine 5 Louise Lara Caroline Louise Lara Louise 6 Lara Caroline Eboni Jessica Caroline 7 Hiranthi Louise Hiranthi Caroline 8 Madeleine Hiranthi Jessica Hiranthi 9 Sophie Sarah Sarah 10 Sarah Sophie 11 Natalie 12 Rebecca 13 Sasha Cycle 3 Order Episodes 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 1 Anika Jordan Paloma Anika Jordan Alice Anika Jordan Steph H. Alice Alice 2 Steph H. Steph H. Danica Alice Steph H. Steph H. Alice Anika Alice Steph H. Steph H. 3 Jordan Steph F. Steph F. Jordan Paloma Paloma Jordan Alice Jordan Jordan 4 Alice Alice Alice Steph H. Sophie Jordan Steph H. Steph H. Anika 5 Cassandra Jane Anika Paloma Danica Danica Paloma Paloma 6 Sophie Anika Jane Sophie Anika Anika Danica 7 Danica Danica Steph H. Danica Alice Sophie 8 Paloma Kara Sophie Jane Jane 9 Jane Sophie Jordan Steph F. 10 Steph F. Paloma Kara 11 Cobi Cassandra 12 Jaimi Cycle 4 Order Episodes 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 1 Alyce Rebecca Caris Samantha Jamie Caris Demelza Samantha Demelza Alexandra Demelza 2 Demelza Alexandra Alamela Caris Samantha Demelza Samantha Alexandra Samantha Demelza Alexandra 3 Alamela Emma Alexandra Alamela Caris Samantha Caris Demelza Alexandra Samantha 4 Caris Samantha Rebecca Alyce Alexandra Alexandra Alexandra Caris Caris 5 Leiden Caris Jamie Alexandra Leiden Rebecca Alyce Alyce 6 Belinda Jamie Alyce Demelza Demelza Alyce Rebecca 7 Alexandra Alyce Demelza Leiden Rebecca Jamie 8 Kristy Leiden Samantha Jamie Alyce Leiden 9 Jamie Alamela Belinda Rebecca Alamela 10 Rebecca Demelza Leiden Belinda 11 Samantha Belinda Emma 12 Emma Kristy 13 Kamila Cycle 5 Order Episodes 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 1 Franky Laura M. Tahnee Adele Clare Adele Tahnee Clare Clare Tahnee Tahnee 2 Cassi Cassi Eloise Franky Adele Clare Clare Tahnee Cassi Cassi Cassi 3 Tahnee Clare Cassi Tahnee Tahnee Tahnee Cassi Cassi Tahnee Clare 4 Eloise Franky Clare Madison Cassi Lola Adele Adele Adele 5 Clare Mikarla Franky Lola Franky Cassi Franky Franky 6 Mikarla Adele Laura M. Laura M. Lola Franky Lola 7 Lola Tahnee Lola Clare Laura M. Laura M. 8 Madison Madison Adele Cassi Madison 9 Laura M. Lola Madison Eloise 10 Georgie Eloise Mikarla Mikarla 11 Leah Georgie Georgie 12 Adele Leah 13 Laura T. Cycle 6 Order Episodes 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 1 Amanda Kathryn Kelsey Joanna Kathryn Amanda Sophie Amanda Sophie Amanda Kelsey Amanda 2 Joanna Joanna Kimberly Kelsey Joanna Jessica Kathryn Sophie Kelsey Kelsey Amanda Kelsey 3 Kathryn Amanda Kathryn Brittney Kelsey Kelsey Jessica Jessica Amanda Sophie Sophie 4 Kelsey Jessica Jessica Kathryn Jessica Sophie Amanda Kelsey Jessica 5 Sophie Sophie Joanna Sophie Sophie Joanna Kelsey Kathryn 6 Chantal Kelsey Amanda Jessica Amanda Kathryn Joanna 7 Megan Brittney Chantal Amanda Brittney Brittney 8 Jessica Ashton Sophie Kimberly Kimberly 9 Ashton Chantal Brittney Chantal 10 Brittney Kimberly Ashton 11 Kimberly Megan 12-16 Alison Ashlea Claire Sally Valeria Cycle 7 Order Episodes 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 13 1 Rachel Yolanda Liz Montana Montana Rachel Simone Hazel Montana Montana Montana Montana 2 Izzy Montana Yolanda Madeline Liz Liz Izzy Montana Liz Liz Liz Liz 3 Jess Neo Jess Rachel Simone Izzy Rachel Liz Simone Simone Simone 4 Madeline Izzy Rachel Hazel Hazel Hazel Hazel Simone Rachel Rachel 5 Caroline Liz Amelia Simone Madeline Montana Montana Rachel Izzy 6 Yolanda Alissandra Simone Amelia Jess Madeline Madeline Izzy Hazel 7 Amelia Madeline Montana Caroline Rachel Simone Liz Madeline 8 Neo Jess Neo Jess Amelia Amelia Amelia 9 Liz Amelia Madeline Yolanda Yolanda Jess Jess 10 Montana Tayah Hazel Izzy Izzy Yolanda 11 Hazel Simone Annaliese Liz Caroline 12 Alissandra Annaliese Caroline Neo Neo 13 Tayah Caroline Izzy Alissandra 14 Annaliese Rachel Alissandra Annaliese 15 Cassy Hazel Tayah 16 Simone Cassy Cycle 8 Order Episodes 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 1 April Taylah Melissa Melissa Jade Duckie Shanali Dajana Abbie Shanali Shanali Melissa 2 Brooke Melissa Madeline Jade Madeline Jade Abbie Duckie Shanali Melissa Melissa Shanali 3 Duckie Duckie Shanali Duckie Ashley Dajana Dajana Abbie Melissa Duckie Duckie 4 Melissa Rhiannon Duckie Shanali Shanali Shanali Duckie Jade Duckie Abbie 5 Ashley Shannon Ashley Abbie Dajana Shannon Melissa Melissa Dajana 6 Taylah Jade Taylah Shannon Abbie Ashley Shannon Shanali Jade 7 Shanali Brooke Jade Madeline Shannon Abbie Jade Shannon 8 Dajana Dajana Brooke Dajana Duckie Melissa Ashley 9 Abbie Ashley Shannon Ashley Melissa Madeline 10 Taylor April April Taylah Taylah 11 Madeline Abbie Dajana April 12 Rhiannon Shanali Abbie Brooke 13 Jade Madeline Rhiannon 14 Shannon Taylor 15 Chanique Cycle 9 Order Episodes 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 Alex Lucy Brittany Jess Jordan Alex Lucy Lucy Brittany Brittany 2 Brittany Alex Lauren Brittany Jess Brittany Lauren Alex Lucy Lucy 3 Izi Izi Alex Izi Lauren Lauren Alex Brittany Alex 4 Ayieda Tanahya Lucy Alex Lucy Jess Brittany Jess Jess 5 Tanahya Ayieda Izi Jordan Brittany Jordan Jess Lauren 6 Jess Jess Phoebe Lucy Izi Lucy Jordan 7 Lucy Jordan Tanahya Lauren Alex Izi 8 Lauren Lauren Jess Zahra Tanahya 9 Phoebe Brittany Jordan Tanahya Zahra 10 Jordan Phoebe Zahra Phoebe 11 Cassie Cassie Ayieda 12 Kaitlyn Cycle 10 Order Episodes 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 Aleyna Jordan Kassidy Jessie Aleyna Linnea Daisy Linnea Sabine Aleyna 2 Jessie Linnea Aleyna Kassidy Kassidy Aleyna Sabine Aleyna Aleyna Sabine 3 Christy Christy Sabine Linnea Linnea Daisy Aleyna Sabine Daisy 4 Linnea Aleyna Belinda Christy Daisy Sabine Kassidy Daisy Linnea 5 Vitoria Jessie Christy Aleyna Vitoria Belinda Linnea Kassidy 6 Sabine Belinda Vitoria Daisy Sabine Kassidy Belinda 7 Jordan Vitoria Jessie Sabine Christy Vitoria 8 Daisy Sabine Jordan Vitoria Jessie Christy 9 Belinda Daisy Linnea Belinda 10 Kassidy Kassidy Daisy Jordan 11 Laura Summer Summer 12 Summer Laura 13 Sofie Key   The contestant won a challenge   The contestant quit the competition   The contestant was eliminated   The contestant won a challenge and was eliminated   The contestant was immune from elimination   The contestant was disqualified   The contestant was part of a non-elimination bottom two   The contestant won two challenges   The contestant was tied at the bottom two with the lowest score, but was not eliminated   The contestant won the competition

This should be rejected for now and that table is not suitably follows Wiki rules that may cause WP:REVERT and WP:STYLE edits. We should back its old and clean table format without a such of junks. ApprenticeFan work 11:10, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

I remember several years ago, long before I started editing Wikipedia, browsing NTM articles logged out and seeing call out tables looking like this, before they changed to the simplified format (see this old revision from 2010 and then this one from 2011, for example). If you look on ANTM's talk page, you'll see discussions like this one which led to the simplification of the tables.

I personally don't mind which format is used, as long as the content is verifiable. If we are going to revert back to the format that was used until 2011, I'm wondering if we should change all call-out tables from all Top Model seasons' pages to the same format for consistency, but either way I don't mind. Linguist^unEins^uno 11:37, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Putting forth a suggestion that lies somewhere in the middle... what if we just highlight the names of challenge winners in a simple color and retain all other aspects of the other tables. This is more effective for two reasons:

*It prevents the creation of combination colors that keep expanding (boldened names will always be the same color regardless of the backdrop as shown in the example)

*Challenge wins can be acknowledged with merged cells since just one name will be bold.

Order	Episodes
	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11
1	Franky	Laura M.	Tahnee	Adele	Clare	Adele	Tahnee	Clare	Clare	Tahnee	Tahnee
2	Cassi	Cassi	Eloise	Franky	Adele	Clare	Clare	Tahnee	Cassi	Cassi	Cassi
3	Tahnee	Clare	Cassi	Tahnee	Tahnee	Tahnee	Cassi	Cassi	Tahnee	Clare
4	Eloise	Franky	Clare	Madison	Cassi	Lola	Adele	Adele	Adele
5	Clare	Mikarla	Franky	Lola	Franky	Cassi	Franky	Franky
6	Mikarla	Adele	Laura M.	Laura M.	Lola	Franky	Lola
7	Lola	Tahnee	Lola	Clare	Laura M.	Laura M.
8	Madison	Madison	Adele	Cassi	Madison
9	Laura M.	Lola	Madison	Eloise Mikarla
10	Georgie	Eloise	Mikarla
11	Leah	Georgie	Georgie
12	Adele	Leah
13	Laura T.

  The contestant won a reward challenge

  The contestant was immune from elimination

  The contestant was eliminated

  The contestant won the competition

I also think adding the challenges on the table is certainly more helpful than adding an extra sentence in the summary. That gives incentive for people to write lengthy in-universe summaries of what happened. More complete tables like the one above enable simpler to the point summaries, like the ones for this show, and people can glean the rest from the tables. I think mentions of bottom twos and eliminations can also be left out, again, people can glean this information from the tables readily. Take for example the summary for episode 1 of cycle 9;

Episode summary mentioning challenge:'

The twelve selected finalists met for the first time, and learned that their tasks throughout the competition would be scored in order to determine who would be eliminated each week. The contestants then took on their first challenge, which consisted of a runway show in front of Australia's fashion elite, where Lucy was chosen as the winner. They later had to pose in front of the camera for an au naturel black and white photo shoot, mentored by Victoria's Secret model Alessandra Ambrosio. At elimination, Alex received the best overall score. Cassie and Kaitlyn landed in the bottom two, and Kaitlyn was eliminated from the competition.

Episode summary not mentioning challenge (where table can supplement):

The twelve selected finalists walked in front of Australia's fashion elite before posing in front of the camera for an au naturel black and white photo shoot, mentored by Victoria's Secret model Alessandra Ambrosio.

I just think adding the challenges and reining in the flowery descriptions in the summaries is the best way to go to preserve the tone of Wikipedia. Trafalk09 (talk) 05:52, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Here is the complete revised example I'm proposing (along with some annotations for clarity)

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Results Order Episodes 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 1 Franky Laura M. Tahnee Adele Clare Adele Tahnee Clare Clare Tahnee Tahnee 2 Cassi Cassi Eloise Franky Adele Clare Clare Tahnee Cassi Cassi Cassi 3 Tahnee Clare Cassi Tahnee Tahnee Tahnee Cassi Cassi Tahnee Clare 4 Eloise Franky Clare Madison Cassi Lola Adele Adele Adele 5 Clare Mikarla Franky Lola Franky Cassi Franky Franky 6 Mikarla Adele Laura M. Laura M. Lola Franky Lola 7 Lola Tahnee Lola Clare Laura M. Laura M. 8 Madison Madison Adele Cassi Madison 9 Laura M. Lola Madison Eloise Mikarla 10 Georgie Eloise Mikarla 11 Leah Georgie Georgie 12 Adele Leah 13 Laura T.   The contestant won a reward challenge   The contestant was immune from elimination   The contestant was eliminated   The contestant won the competition Notes

I'd be fine with that. Linguist^unEins^uno 11:46, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Hello again! Haven't responded for a long time. I have just researched on Eboni's leaving in cycle 2 that she was hospitalized and returned in the competition at the following episode. I will add the color of orchid on the series' table for now. ApprenticeFan work 10:15, 14 February 2018 (UTC)