Talk:Atana (disambiguation)

Latest comment: 7 years ago by Andrew Dalby in topic references about goddess Atana
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Shouldn't the non-disambiguation page be replaced with this one, since the word has several more major meanings, like in four languages? If Wikipedia was more Western-centric, even, it'd be redirected to Athena, not having the Indian musical version article be the main one.--dchmelik (t|c) 04:54, 21 February 2017 (UTC)Reply

references about goddess Atana

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People stop keeping removing the part on goddess Atana. The first person didn't bother to check off Wikipedia; the second person checked one thing (still missed something) but not the other. Here are the references (which can't be on the main disambiguation page, but I guess they can be mentioned here.) The book states the name Atana Potinija or AtanaPotinija (in a section readable free on Google Books) that it theorized may be Athena Potnia (or not, but is otherwise another goddess) and the website states the name Atana, referencing an ancient (same?) source (about the Potinija version,) and says it's about Athena. So, this should be left there.

  • Hurwit, Jeffrey M. The Athenian Acropolis: History, Mythology, And Archaeology From The Neolithic Era to The Present. Cambridge University Press, 1999. p 14.
  • The Shrine of The Goddess Athena. Roy George, 1998 - 2003. www.goddess-athena.org/Timeline/Minoan/. Accessed 31 Dec 2003.

--dchmelik (t|c) 12:27, 21 February 2017 (UTC)Reply

References don't ever go on disambiguation pages. An existing English Wikipedia article linked on the disambiguation page must support the usage. Disambiguation pages are not an index of everything and anything that might have been mentioned somewhere. olderwiser 12:37, 21 February 2017 (UTC)Reply
Okay, but you apparently didn't read the Athena article. The etymology/etc. section refers to Atana Potinija, and I didn't even add that, someone added it--probably a long time ago--from the Linear B Mycenaean source or a scholarly source about it.--dchmelik (t|c) 12:47, 21 February 2017 (UTC)Reply
I certainly did read that section and there is no mention of the term "atana". There is a mention of "atano" and "athana" and "A-ta-na", which may or may not be the same as "atana", but I'm not going to speculate. olderwiser 12:59, 21 February 2017 (UTC)Reply
There's A-ta-na, which is just showing the letters, but the dashes aren't part of it--it's actually Atana, and that section also mentions At(h)ana, in which the ‘h’ is optional so it shows both spellings are used.--dchmelik (t|c) 13:06, 21 February 2017 (UTC)Reply
It's not I wanted to get in edit war; thanks for the revision. Now I see why you or someone might want to be this strict about it. The person who entered the dashes and parentheses could have just left them out, and written both versions, and it'd mean the same (then you wouldn't see the words for the letters.) If it's preferable to have the version without the dashes, I could add the (e)book above to the Athena article, but maybe someone could just be bold enough to add a version without the dashes if it's that important (I haven't seen the actual source they used.) I just take it for granted you can remove the dashes.--dchmelik (t|c) 13:17, 21 February 2017 (UTC)Reply
I don't want to edit war either, and if others don't like my change please just revert it, but I wrote the name with the hyphens, because Linear B is only a vague representation of real Mycenaean Greek (though it's all we've got). The characters A-ta-na could be interpreted in several ways. To write Atana or Athana or Adna ... etc. etc. is sort of OR: to write A-ta-na (mentioning Linear B, as Bkonrad already did) tells it like it is. Andrew Dalby 13:35, 21 February 2017 (UTC)Reply