Talk:Archibald Macneil of Colonsay

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Revert of an addition edit

Latest comment: 10 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

See this edit 17 May 2013

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They had no chidren.^[1]

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They had at least two children: Georgina Anna Macneill, christened in Livorno on November 11, 1800^[2], and Capt. Archibald Macneill.^[3]

Notes

^ Wakehurst 1935, p. 168.
^ England and Wales, Non-Conformist Record Indexes (RG4-8)
^ Colburn and Bentley 1831, p. 285. sfn error: multiple targets (2×): CITEREFColburn_and_Bentley1831 (help)

Refs

England and Wales, Non-Conformist Record Indexes (RG4-8)
Colburn and Bentley (1831), The United Service Journal and Naval and Military Magazine, p. 285
Wakehurst, Baron John de Vere Loder (1935), Colonsay and Oronsay in the isles of Argyll: their history, flora, fauna and topography, Oliver and Boyd, p. 168

A link to the USJ can be found here:

Colburn and Bentley (1831), "Married", The United Service Journal and Naval and Military Magazine, p. 285:

"Jan. 4th. At Montrose, Capt. Archibald Macneill, Forfar Militia, formerly Captain in the 91st Regiment, son of the late Colonel Archibald Macneill, of Colonsay, Argyllshire, to Elizabeth, youngest daughter of the late Colin Alison, Esq. of Easter Brakie."

The problem is that there is a source reliable source from 1935 that states they had no children. This is being contradicted using an earlier source which does not directly state that the subject of this biography is the father of the man in the USJ, but could for example be the son of another Archibald Macneil of Colonsay or it could just be incorrect, or it is correct and the 1935 source did not know of it. The same is true for the "England and Wales, Non-Conformist Record Indexes" (a ref which is not detailed enough). Either way using these primary sources is a WP:SYN and it needs more recently published reliable secondary sources to repudiate the 1935 source.

So for the moment and until a consensus can be shown for inclusion I am reverting out the change. -- PBS (talk) 17:27, 10 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

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[FOOTNOTEWakehurst1935168-1] Wakehurst 1935, p. 168.

[2] England and Wales, Non-Conformist Record Indexes (RG4-8)

[FOOTNOTEColburn_and_Bentley1831285-3] Colburn and Bentley 1831, p. 285. sfn error: multiple targets (2×): CITEREFColburn_and_Bentley1831 (help)

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