Talk:Another Brick in the Wall/Archive 1

Archive 1

Clean up

I am working on cleaning up this article along with completing the two parts of this song.

Biohazerd87 02:10, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

more trivia: The choir singing "All in All it's just..." sounds very close to German "Hol ihn, hol ihn unters Dach" (Get him, get him under the roof). --84.56.223.181 15:19, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Sounds like a "Floydish" thing to do. --Eddie 13:09, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Teacher's voice

Does the school teacher's voice belong to John Cleese? --Ceaser 20:29, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

I seriously doubt it.

The teacher's voice belongs to the late British character actor Alex McAvoy. He played the part in the Wall movie. --Sk'py Skwrrrl 21:48, 21 July 2006 (UTC) ^^i thought waters would have done it on the album

Waters DOES say it on the album and sounds nothing like the actor in the film! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.121.143.143 (talk) 23:14, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Occasions this song was used

I have heard it was used during the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989, but I can not confirm this evidently. Does someone know more? Wandalstouring 11:03, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Miscrediting

"Another Brick In The Wall" did not appear on the Resident Evil soundtrack. It did however appear on the soundtrack to the movie The Faculty and was covered by Class of 99.--Marr0w 05:52, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Missing Trivia

Someone removed all the trivia listing the common mishearings around the world claming "needs reference, I've never heard of anyone mishearing, therefore it can't be that many" (22:03, 11 May 2006 by User:M4bwav). So let me get this right, becouse this one person never heard of it, it never happens? I'm sure that there are many things in this world that exists with out his knowledge. It's my assesment that these trivia items that were removed are some of these bits of knowledge that exists and yet are unknown to him. My question is, do other people feel that this content (which was provided by multiple people) adds value to the artical and should be allowed to say?--Ceaser 10:30, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

German

The trivia section currently contains the following:

In the Part of the Childs-Chourus can you hear "Hohl, ihn, hohl ihn unter's Dach!"

Is there any evidence this was intentional or in any way meaningful, as oppose to someone (an editor of this article?) going "hmm....that's odd"? If not I will remove it. --Black Butterfly 18:59, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

It's a rather obscure but persistent urban legend in Germany, apparently. The sentence doesn't really make sense but would mean "Take him under the roof", which is interpreted to mean "Hang him". The legend goes that the audio technician responsible for the album hanged himself and left the chorus that way as a suicide letter or something absurd like that.

It's pretty clear the children didn't know any German, so this would have been a mad coincidence if the story is true. That said, the effect is too subtle to be convincing. But you know how conspiracy theorists are. --- 78.35.115.245 (talk) 22:55, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

"William Floyd"

What? I have found no mention of this anywhere - in The Wall Revisited documentaries etc. he is always referred to as "Pink" - or in any Wikipedia article. Indeed, in some part (I think in The Wall) his name is hypothesised as Floyd Pinkerton.

Seeing as the rest of the article refers to him as Pink as well, I will change all references to "William Floyd" to plainly "Pink".

Φ 21:06, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

(I couldn't find the edit where this was changed - it seemed pretty established.)

Class of '99

I have reinserted and reworded the reference to the Class of '99 cover. The original text was badly worded as it emphasised the fact that it wasn't by Marilyn Manson. I have however mentioned that it is sometimes attributed to Manson, as a quick Google search may indicate. I feel this may be useful for someone looking for information on a recording they believe to be Manson's. --Black Butterfly 21:41, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Does anyone notice that Pink Floyd sings 'leave THEM kids alone', where as the choir sings 'leave THOSE kids alone'. Maybe their teacher didn't want them to sign 'THEM'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnsirett (talk • contribs) 18:51, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

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Mash Up with S+P

    In 1997, a mash-up of the song and Salt n Pepa's track "Gitty Up" became popular, especially in
    Australia where it reached the top 20.

The song Gitty Up was released as a single in 1998, so I think the timeline is off a bit on this fact. Also, this would need a citation if you are going to claim it reached top 20 - whose top 20? who did the mash-up? Addionne (talk) 15:05, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Accent

The kids appear to sing in a funny accent or dialect (control pronounced as /kənˈtraʊl/ instead of /kənˈtrəʊl/); what exactly is this one called? --84.119.99.126 (talk) 10:56, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

They sing in their natural voice and sound exactly like local children in London N1 should. There is a contrast with Waters and Gilmour, who have Cambridge accents which are naturally more neutral (and probably sound more "English" to overseas listeners.)Infojunkie23 (talk) 15:16, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Disco

The single WAS categorically intended as a disco single. From "Inside Out" pp 248-249:

"The tempo was set at a metronomic 100bpm, which was considered the ideal disco beat, and so the concept of a hit disco single was forced through rather to our bemusement."

(The same section of the book implies that it was Ezra's idea.) Can someone more experienced than me add this to the article and add the citation please? Infojunkie23 (talk) 15:41, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

I see the edit war continues, AFTER I've dug this out and it's here on the Talk page for all to see. The article (as I type now) has the song as disco and the single as rock, which is in contradiction to the citation. Here is an opportunity to build consensus, if "radiopathy" and "helpsloose" could agree to disagree on one side of the fence or the other please... Infojunkie23 (talk) 15:32, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

That was an oversight on my part: I reverted to the version that had "Progressive rock" and "Disco" for the album. I've fixed it.

BTW, I don't believe there's a consensus to catagorise the song solely as "Disco"; it should really also include "Rock" or "Progressive rock" as well. Other disco-ish songs of the era by rock acts, such as Miss You (The Rolling Stones song) and Do Ya Think I'm Sexy?, also list "Rock" as one of the genres. Radiopathy •talk• 19:31, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Art rock fits here too --190.157.153.179 (talk) 20:43, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Just to be clear I was proposing including it in disco -and- prog. Regarding art rock - you'd probably need to argue your case regarding Pink Floyd generally before any hope of making that stick for this single.Infojunkie23 (talk) 09:48, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

190.78.133.42 has just taken disco out again. I'm going to revert that unless a comment appears here soonish (or is it one of the people discussing it here?)Infojunkie23 (talk) 09:48, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Maybe people will stop taking it out if we put that citation in there somewhere... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Infojunkie23 (talk • contribs) 22:24, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Hey Ayatollah

Due to the press paying attention to this politically charged cover version and comments from Waters himself approving its use, I feel that this inforamtion is worth its own sub-segment under the Covers segment.Wowaconia (talk) 08:40, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Lyrics

Can someone post the lyrics?Rusted AutoParts (talk) 10:09, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Agreed...this article's kind of a mess. Which is a shame.--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 03:05, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

"Disco beat" quote from Gilmour

“ It wasn't my idea to do disco music, it was Bob's. He said to me, 'Go to a couple of clubs and listen to what's happening with disco music,' so I forced myself out and listened to loud, four-to-the-bar bass drums and stuff and thought, Gawd, awful! Then we went back and tried to turn one of the [song's] parts into one to those so it would be catchy. ”

Isn't "one to those" a typo? Shouldn't it be "one of those"?RobertGustafson (talk) 04:30, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Part 2 genre

I feel Part 2 is hard rock, and it should be added in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.81.33.59 (talk) 03:24, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Singles

Pink Floyd had numerous singles between "Point Me at the sky" and "Another Brick (pt.2)." That may be the case in the UK, but "Money," for example, was a big hit in much of the world. But there were many more.

https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/pink_floyd — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spencerrich (talk • contribs) 01:46, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

AKEFB

All three parts of "Another Brick In The Wall" are independent songs - or at least as independent as any other pieces within the broader context of "The Wall" - and really should have their own pages. The page for the whole trilogy is too messy and over-emphasises part 2.

I agree that each part deserves its own article. --Ben Culture (talk) 21:41, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Gilmour says

"Even the songs that Roger supposedly wrote by himself, it's never the full story. You can never say exactly what happened when that record was made. The whole ending part of 'Another Brick in the Wall (Part 2)', he didn't write the guitar solo or the chords in that section. He didn't make up the drum parts, the rhythm. I'm not going to abandon something I've worked really hard on, or feel I had something major to do with, just because it says Roger wrote it. Life is too short." - David Gilmour

I'm gonna put this in the page. If someone think it's wrong, reply here.

Arrangement is not composing. Aside from the fact that the keyboard does play different chords atop the same bass line during his guitar solo, Gilmour is talking about arrangement. Guitar solos are never considered (legally) to be part of the songwriting (maybe they should be, but they aren't. Gilmour has made a number of guest appearances just to play a solo on somebody's song, and he never received co-writing credit for any of them). Likewise, drum parts and rhythm are not songwriting. I don't care if it's in the article or not, but David Gilmour is a real whiner.

Bob Ezrin had just as much to do with the final result of "Part 2" as Gilmour (the disco tempo and drum beat, doubling the length, and having children chant the lyrics, were all Ezrin's ideas), but I've never seen him complaining about not getting enough credit. In fact, Gilmour resisted the disco tempo, and both he and Waters were initially opposed to making the song long enough to be a single. They were opposed to releasing a single, period, until they heard Ezrin's edit with the children chanting.

--Ben Culture (talk) 21:55, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

"Don't Leave Me Now" on the disco charts, eh?

The article currently states:

In addition, in the US, along with the tracks, "Run Like Hell", and "Don't Leave Me Now", "Another Brick in the Wall" reached number fifty-seven on the disco chart.

Do I have to point out the absurdity of "Don't Leave Me Now" being a disco number? Was it a B-Side for the single or something? Bizarre.

--Ben Culture (talk) 22:00, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

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Covers

I rather think there are significant cover versions that we don't have listed here. Andy Mabbett?

All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 20:10, 13 February 2017 (UTC).

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Don't Leave Me Now

Referring to the 1st section of the article, how on earth is "Don't Leave Me Now" supposed to have charted in the top 100 in the US Disco category? I don't care if it's in some book, there is absolutely no way that actually happened.O0drogue0o (talk) 12:33, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Contribution from other musicians:

Told by David Gilmour:

"Freddie Mandell played Hammond on "In The Flesh, Parts 1 and 2", because Rick for some reason wouldn't get his elbow on the keyboards. Jeff Porcaro drummed on "Mother" because it wasn't working with Nick, and Jeff's father, Joe, played snare on "Bring The Boys Back Home". Lee Ritenour played one of the two high strums on "Comfortably Numb" and some rhythm guitar on "Is There Anybody Out There?".

Source: http://www.pink-floyd.org/artint/rc032000.htm 151.177.236.107 (talk) 02:01, 24 January 2023 (UTC)