Talk:Anna Lindh/Archive 1

Archive 1

Đinđić's murder in Serbia

I was the one who included the miscellani on Zoran Đinđić's assasination into the Anna Lindh article, which you have removed, citing that no connection between murders can be assumed. Well, of course it can not. While Đinđić's murder was evidently political in its nature, Lindh's killing was apparently an action of a madman. Regardless, it does not change the fact that she was present at the time of the assasination in Belgrade, waiting for a meeting with PM Đinđić - and that's the "interesting" information. No connection was assumed, hinted, whatever - I believe this was clear enough. Any other reason for removing that line? Best regards, Meelosh 19:10, 10 January 2007 (UTC).

Why do you want to mention it? Is the only reason the Polish incident being another murder? Isn't that irrelevant to the subject? (I copied this from my talk page). Teemu Ruskeepää 08:45, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

First let me start by saying that Belgrade is capital of Serbia, and not a city in Poland. By including this info in subsection titled miscellaneous, I wanted to show that there is not apparent or any other connection between two assasinations. However, both Đinđić and Lindh were senior governement officials in their countries (prime minister and minister of foreign affairs, respectively) and both murders were very high profile cases - all that in relatively short timespan. As to the importance of the subject - I'll grant that it is not a vital information in any way. However, that's why it was included in miscellaneous. Regards, Meelosh 15:57, 12 January 2007 (UTC).

Sure, I assumed the country by the language. I don't think that there should be any story about any high profile political murders in this article, unless it is connected to the same perpetrator. You might want to create a list of high profile murders universally, and add a link to "see also". Teemu Ruskeepää 10:18, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Assassination of Anna Lindh

The assassination of Anna Lindh in September 2003 was a crime major given major publicity by newspapers, radio and TV, especially in Sweden. Almost like the February 1986 assassination of Olof Palme. Assassination of Anna Lindh should have its own article. J 1982 (talk) 21:14, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

For sure.--BabbaQ (talk) 21:42, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

I added a "split section" template under "assassination of Anna Lindh". J 1982 (talk) 11:48, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Merger proposal

Formal request has been received to merge Anna Lindh Memorial Fund into Anna Lindh; dated: January 2018. Proposer's Rationale: not enough information for the fund service can be found to warrant a separate article and its content will not likely overwhelm the Lindh article – we usually don't have separate articles for memorial funds anyway. Discuss here. Richard3120 (talk) 23:25, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose - On the grounds that the article contains good references, and would be hard to incorporate in Anna Lindhs article. --BabbaQ (talk) 23:28, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose. There is clearly enough material for the Memorial Fund/Prize article (which reminds me - I must get round to updating it sometime), and it wouldn't fit easily easily into the biography article. --NSH001 (talk) 07:53, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
• Support. The article on the fund is currently one paragraph. In the current state I don't see any difficulty integrating it, references included. Averell (talk) 16:05, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
• Support per Averell23. Short article that has barely expanded recently. The Legendary Ranger (talk) 17:18, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
• Support The article is very short, of one subject, and is little-known outside Sweden. Merge it into Anna's article- Veryproicelandic (talk) 19:27, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Split assassination of Anna Lindh into a new article

@J 1982:Reviving the archived discussion on this matter. I support a split. lovkal (talk) 14:06, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Position

The Government of Sweden page does not list any office called the Minister of Migration. Is one of the pages wrong? Rmhermen 12:49, Sep 11, 2003 (UTC)

The Minister of Migration works at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. So none of the pages are wrong. (Seems like Jan O. Karlssons full title in english is "Minister for Development Cooperation, Migration and Asylum Policy") [1] -- Jniemenmaa 18:49, 11 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Israel

It's my understanding Lindh was also publically critical of Israel. Thus "conspiracy theorists" smell an Israeli murder...I doubt anything so highpowered as Mossad, though, they have far subtler technique and technology -- Kwantus

You'd have to be pretty paranoid to believe Mossad would assassinate a leading politician just for criticising Israeli Government policy. I've always believed anti-Israeli terrorists, assassins and saboteurs were more in their line of fire.

I'd like to believe it too. But "terrorist" is a slippery word (see OBL talk) which Israel chucks about like "antisemite".[2] And they did beef up Mossad for global assassinations in January.[3] (And yes, I'm a bit paranoid when it comes to a country that can announce such a thing and have the US shrug and say "ya, but whaddyagonnado". And it doesn't help that Israel likes to use my country's passports for this crap.)

To be clear: it's a "wild" idea, but I know of nothing so far that rules it out. (There's little with which to rule anything out.) -- Kwantus 20:46, 16 Sep 2003 (UTC)

As an illustration of how strange the word "terrorist" gets when it comes to Israel, try to find it in this BBC report on the conviction of three Israeli settlers for attempting to bomb an Arab girls' school. -- Kwantus 02:57, 18 Sep 2003 (UTC)

How is that relevant to Anna Lindh's article? RickK 03:01, 18 Sep 2003 (UTC)

I believe it is relevant to the "paranoia" remark. (why? Imagine it was Arabs trying to blow up Israelis. Estimate an upper bound for the number of times "terror" would appear as a radix in article about their conviction. But Israelis try to blow up Arabs, and "terror" is strenusously avoided. Does that not make you suspect bias in the reporting?) I could also add the recent arrests of (suspected) Israeli spies in Canada.[4] -- note the identical behaviours to dozens roaming the US in the summer of 2001.[5][6] I don't trust Israel, and apparently it's necessary to explain why. -- Kwantus 17:14, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)

I also wonder about the hidden influences of a tiny country that can deliver a heavy attack on a US naval vessel for over an hour and get off with an "oops" and a minor deduction in the transfer payments three years after a provoked sting and a shadow in the Gulf of Tonkin allows the US take its Vietnam war public. I'm just funny that way...

Yes, I can see just from all of the weird edits you're doing to Fluoride and its talk page, just how paranoid you are. RickK 19:22, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Okay, why do you believe I should trust Israel? (And perhaps we should move this to Talk:Israel) I used to, btw. And trust the US. I'm actually a rather trusting soul by default. But when I find that trust has been repeatedly abused and betrayed, then what? Even W said (or tried to) "fool me twice shame on me." -- Kwantus 19:55, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Proposed split of assassination content

There is a notice in the article proposing the content about Lindh's assassination be split into a new article. As an outsider to both the topic and the content of this article, my initial impression is that Lindh does not appear to be especially notable outside the context of being a politician who was assassinated. I believe this means there is no need for a second article that discusses her life separately to the assassination. It's not as though the current article is excessively long. Ypna (talk) 07:48, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

I take the lack of response as permission to remove the proposal. Ypna (talk) 04:00, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

She is notable as a politician. And her assassination received worldwide attention. But as you state a second article is not necessary at least not at this point.BabbaQ (talk) 12:09, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Suspect

I amended 'all charges dismissed' to 'released without charge' as there is no evidence given that the suspect was charged in the first place. Swedish editors may have additional information. All the best, Emmentalist (talk) 06:44, 9 May 2023 (UTC)