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How do the territories of the "Greater Amman Municipality" and "Amman Governorate" overlap?

This cannot be figured out so far from the maps & sketches and it's very confusing & frustrating. Arminden (talk) 13:25, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Is the Amman Governorate divided into NINE, EIGHT, or SEVEN nahias?

The article claims that "Article 4 of the administrative divisions system of the Jordanian Ministry of Interior states that the Amman Governorate is divided into nine nahias." If so, why does the map only show 7? And why does Nahias of Jordan only list eight? That's slightly too much mess.Arminden (talk) 13:27, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Amman Governorate vs Greater Amman Municipality

What is the difference/relation between the Amman Governorate and the Greater Amman Municipality? On the Amman Governorate page it shows that the maps of each entity do not correspond with each other so clearly they are not the same. Currently, I've been attempting to clean up the articles on the localities of the Amman Governorate and I've ran into numerous localities here that are called districts but it is not clear which greater entity they belong to. Some, like Kherbet al-Souk for example, were called districts of the Amman Governorate, when they do not appear to be according to the 2015 Jordanian census, which lists it as a locality in the Quwaysimah Subdistrict of the Quwaysimah District of the Amman Governorate (further the census combines this particular locality with Jawa and al-Yadudah). There are many more Amman Governorate articles with this apparent confusion. Just looking for clarity here backed by the latest reliable sources. Makeandtoss, as you are perhaps the most active member of this WikiProject of whom I'm familiar, I defer to your guidance. Cheers, Al Ameer (talk) 21:14, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

@Al Ameer son: Governorates are subnational administrative divisions and within them there could be multiple municipalities. Within the Amman governorate there are nine municipalities; Greater Amman Municipality, Al-'Amiriya, Um Rasas, Giza, Sahab, Muwaqqar, Naour, Husban and Um Basateen. [1] maybe I will work on translating this article soon.. Makeandtoss (talk) 18:31, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

@Makeandtoss:

1. There should definitely be an article on the Greater Amman Municipality divorced from the Amman Governorate page because it creates confusion. In the new article, the territorial jurisdiction of the municipality should be defined and, if possible, all of the municipal districts and the districts' component villages and neighborhoods should be listed. I don't have any sources for the Greater Amman Municipality, so if you could start this article that would go a long way sorting out confusion and overlap.

2. The next-level subdivisions after governorates are districts and the next-level subdivisions after districts are subdistricts. This is my understanding from the 2015 Census, pages 5–8. The census shows that the Amman Governorate consists of nine districts: Amman Center, Marka, Quwaysima, al-Jami'ah, Wadi al-Seer, Sahab, al-Jizah, Muwaqqar and Na'our. Then there are two subdistricts of Jizah District, which are Jizah and Umm al-Rasas, two subdistricts of Muwaqqar, which are Muwaqqar and Rujm al-Shami, and three subdistricts of Na'our, which are Na'our, Umm al-Basatin and Hisban. The rest of the districts consist only of one subdistrict with the same name of the district. Each subdistrict contains localities (I assume some of them are municipalities, while others are villages and maybe city neighborhoods/districts as well). Is this assessment correct? If so, each of the nine governorate districts should have their own articles listing their localities. Using the census, I could go about doing this next week.

3. Where could we find a reliable government source (Arabic or English) which informs us that there are nine municipalities in the Amman Governorate–"Greater Amman Municipality, Al-'Amiriya, Um Rasas, Giza, Sahab, Muwaqqar, Naour, Husban and Um Basateen"?

Thanks for bearing with me here ;) Al Ameer (talk) 20:33, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

• Amman Governorate has nine municipalities: Greater Amman, Um Basateen, Hisban, Naour, Sahab, Muwaqqar, Giza Jadeeda, Ameryah and Um Rasas.
• Greater Amman Municipality has 22 and not 27 "areas/mantiqa". Each area is then divided into neighborhoods.
• Amman Governorate is also divided into nine "district/liwa'" and some are divided into "sub-district/qada'". Amman Center, Marka, Quwaysima, al-Jami'ah, Wadi al-Seer, Sahab, al-Jizah, Muwaqqar and Na'our. Then there are two subdistricts of Jizah District, which are Jizah and Umm al-Rasas, two subdistricts of Muwaqqar, which are Muwaqqar and Rujm al-Shami, and three subdistricts of Na'our, which are Na'our, Umm al-Basatin and Hisban. The rest of the districts consist only of one subdistrict with the same name of the district.

@Al Ameer son: Does this make more sense? Makeandtoss (talk) 12:37, 10 July 2020 (UTC)