Talk:Alexander Gromov

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Just to avoid ambiguity, all anonymous edits made prior to June, 2006 were made by user Ellol (due to technical problems). Also want to note that user Kcordina once have copyedited the whole article.

Ellol 18:32, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Antarctica-online?

Social science fiction linked to this page, specifically and obviously intending to aim to a sub-header referring to a specific work apparently entitled "Antarctica-online", which from context was probably either a novel or a short story though it could have been in another non-prose medium. The title interested me in context so I clicked, only to find that the article has no such section nor any reference at all to such a work at current. What the heck happened?? 108.188.199.60 (talk) 17:38, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Cleanup, citations and possible additions?

Well, while I'm here :P

I tidied and reorganized a bit. It did not seem to warrant the "essay like" tag anymore as it appears to be pretty neutral description at this point of actual verified content in the books, so I hope it's all right I took that tag off? I did leave the citation/living persons tag up though since the references are pretty limited on here, though I updated it to reflect the current month and year.

Changes made:

-Moved the quote about his preferred genre being Social Science Fiction, from the introduction (which is a very awkward place for it) down to the Themes section, which I retitled to "Genres and themes" since it was referring to his work having both hard science fiction and social science fiction elements, and since in this case genre and theme are joined (social science fiction is considered a subgenre WITH a "social" theme after all), and otherwise the section is very tiny, so it makes sense to lump it together. I can't recall/couldn't easily find the proper "quote block" code, so I simply retained the italics-with-citation format that it originally had to some extent. Feel free to format it a little differently, but at least the assertion is correctly framed and cited in a section of the article where it makes sense to retain it.

-One thing I tried to do was include citations for a number of bits, including the addition I made of noting the handful of awards the already-mentioned works had won. The same webpage was the source for those claims, as well as the "amateur astronomer" claim, though, but are showing up as if they were different references in the reflist, oops - at least they are cited and it's obvious where it's coming from, but yeah, I guess I'm not quite up on current reference coding so if anybody wants to fix that, feel free, and if anybody has additional sources to support those bits by all means add them too so that we're not relying more than we have to on only one site for that information.

- I removed the assertion about none of the works being available in English; not because I know of any English translations but because I cannot cite that...? How do prove a negative like that - and isn't it enough to say that the stories are in his native Russian? It seems weird to state a negative like that that could easily change? Especially given that I don't think it looks like anybody's done much with the page in the last year+ so it's possible a translation occurred in that time? Anyway, if an English translation does ever occur, by all means add it, but it seems weird to have that floating, uncited statement there so I removed it and simply noted that he writes in Russian (I mean, he's Russian so you'd think he would, but MANY Russians speak more than one language so it is still worth noting).

- He appears to have published a lot more than just those works and some of them have won minor awards as late as 2008/2009, so could someone who speaks Russian take a look, poke around online maybe, and find some sources for us? There are new works in later years than 1997, which have won some minor awards (or major ones..? I don't know European SF community well enough to judge; I'm more familiar with the US/Canadian SF industry), according to that fansite that is provided as an external link. Problem being, a.) as stated it's a fansite not a press source of the normal sort which is fine for an external link and all and a useful jumping-off point, but won't be a reliable source for Refs as I recall, and b.) It's in Russian (which I do not speak). I was able to let Chrome translate it roughly for me, which is how I recognized that it appears to include news listings up through part of 2009 for various publications and awards of his, however, it cannot serve as a Reliable Source for these things in the Wikipedian sense - though I'm sure it can be a good springboard to more reliable sources. Thing is as I said: I do not speak Russian. Given many of the news items were in the 2000s, I'm sure there's an online footprint for this stuff, but it's maybe (probably?) all in Russian, so it might be best if someone who both can read a fair amount of Russian fluently and has decent Google-Fu took a look at more recent publication/awards history? 108.188.199.60 (talk) 18:44, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

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Position on Politics

I have reverted the claim that Gromov signed the letter supporting Russian invasion of Ukraine, because its supporting link to https://lgz.ru/article/-8-6822-23-02-2022/kto-khochet-zhertv/ appears to refer to a different Alexander Gromov: "Громов Александр – председатель Самарского регионального отделения [Союза Писателей] России." ("Gromov, Alexander -- chair of the Samara regional chapter of the Writers' Union of Russia.")

The subject of the article lives in Moscow, and looks nothing like the Alexandr Gromov listed as the chair of the Samara chapter of Writer's Union of Russia (https://литсамара.рф/?p=3547). So, this appears to be a coincidence.

That having been said, Gromov's portrait in the article does indicate that he attended a science fiction convention in the occupied Donetsk in 2020, indicating tacit support for the occupation. This may be worth adding to the article, though my Wikipedia policy is a bit rusty. Pavel N. Krivitsky (talk) 12:28, 11 March 2024 (UTC)