Talk:Abu Ayyub al-Ansari

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Hmn, the article says

When Muhammad arrived in Medina, all of the inhabitants of the city offered to accommodate him. He decided instead to allow his camel to walk where it chose and to stay at whomsoever's house it stopped. The camel of its own accord, stopped at the hose Abu Ayyub al-Ansari...

in the same voice of certainty that is used for (for instance)

On November 1, 1861, Frémont ordered Grant to embark south with his troops from Cairo to attack Confederate soldiers encamped in Belmont, Missouri. Grant, along with Brigadier General John A. McClernand, landed 2,500 men at Hunter's Point, two miles north of the Confederate base outside Belmont.

Nothhing's entirely certain in this world -- the universe itself may not even exist -- but given the citing in the latter passages of sources I consider likely to be accurate, I'm confident that on November 1, 1861, Frémont did indeed order Grant to embark south with his troops etc., to the degree that I'm comfortable with our stating it in the voice of certainty.

Can we say the same about Muhammed and his camel? Color me skeptical. And if we don't have sufficient proof that this actually happened, why are we stating in the voice of certainty? Just saying. Herostratus (talk) 19:45, 23 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

Please stop edit

We can't keep talking about goblins, magical camels, and manna from heaven as though these things unquestionably existed. I get the concept of faith, but fantastical claims require fantastical evidence, and the Islamic revisionism I'm encountering in articles like this threatens Wikipedia's adherence to neutrality.

Tone edit

Irrespective of any debate about religious belief, this article warrants complete rewriting for unencyclopaedic tone.

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