Talk:2015 Clemson Tigers football team

College football now has playoff distinctions (CFP)

This needs to be added to the info box main template because of the "College Football Playoff (CFP)," which is also a proper noun. Same with Oregon in 2014. Also, certain types of references to "team sports" or "sports with multiple players" such as championships are usually plural in the press or when listed and are often capitalized when referring to a "specific" championship (making it proper), ie "Big 10 Champions," "SEC Champions," "Rose Bowl Champions," etc. Single player sports when referring to a proper noun or phrase and specific, could often be, for example, "Wimbledon Champion," "WBC Champion," "Nextel Cup Champion," etc. 2602:306:25EC:49:9A6:34E1:E86B:DD88 (talk) 23:34, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

There are a two issues here. The first is the issue of capitalization, which has already been discussed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College football/Archive 17#Team championships in header capitalization issue/clarification. The second issue is whether making the CFP final is worthy of mention in the championship field of the infobox. Seeing as winning a semifinal game is not in itself a championship, it doesn't seem appropriate. Jweiss11 (talk) 05:13, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

I wanted to let you know that I will be respectful here, and always assume WP:GF. I see it archived, but doesn't seem like a balanced discussion, and that you have already been changing this on info boxes, and respectfully, in error. I have degrees in both English & Journalism (and also have major course work in "research" which is a requirement). "Champions" more often plural and correct in reference to "teams" or "sports with multiple players," which would also be more respectful (and grammatical) since the players are actually living persons. And again, it would also be capitalized when linked to a proper noun ("Rose Bowl Champions," "Big 10 Champions") when not "generalized" in a sentence which would be a "common noun." More over, the conferences themselves list their specific Conference "Champions" on all their official websites as does the NCAA [1][2][3]. It also looks and reads awkward the other way. It could be singular as well, depending how it is used in a sentence-- singular if referring to specifically the school or organization.

As for the other issue, again, it is a distinction (also involving living persons who achieved something), and the CFP is official unlike, say, claimed and unclaimed national championships, which have already been erroneously added to team info boxes. Actually "finalist" was already chosen as a compromise to the term "runner-up." It is in the archive and edit histories. The terms semifinalist and finalist in themselves designate that they were selected, or advanced, and also designates they were the runner-up (finalist). A related topic on the semifinals is here: [4], and the terms have been added to the top of corresponding bowl pages. And for the record, I didn't state anything about it being worthy or the same as a championship. I stated that the template had not been amended. I have not had time to do that myself as of yet. Thanks j. SportsEdits1 (talk) 10:25, 6 December 2016 (UTC)