Talk:2012–13 Big Ten Conference men's basketball season/GA1

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Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 20:12, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Comments

• "with practices in" do you mean practice matches?
  • No basketball practices are not necessarily matches. They are often just drills and exercises.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:29, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
  • Opted not to link to the general term Practice (learning method).--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:37, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
• "enjoyed 9 postseason" nine per MOS:NUM.
  • fixed--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:33, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
• "8 of the 9 posteason" Eight of the nine, and fix the typo.
  • fixed--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:33, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
• Per WP:HASH, avoid using a hash symbol to represent "Number".
  • Is this really what we want?--TonyTheTiger (T/C) Check out the WAWARD 06:22, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
    • If it complies with WP:HASH, then sure. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:57, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
• Newspapers e.g. USA Today should be in italics.
  • Fixed.--TonyTheTiger (T/C) Check out the WAWARD 06:11, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
• The ticks in the table would be much better centrally aligned.
  • Fixed--TonyTheTiger (T/C) Check out the WAWARD 17:49, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
• What is a preseason watchlist? Remember this is supposed to appeal to non-expert readers.
  • I added something. Do I need a source for this?--TonyTheTiger (T/C) Check out the WAWARD 17:44, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
• Col widths in the tables should be same width for similar entries. Right now they look really clumsy.
• Why the empty columns in the Preseason national polls? What's the point of them?
  • I never tracked these down, if they existed.--TonyTheTiger (T/C) Check out the WAWARD 18:04, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
• What is Athlon?
  • linked--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 17:29, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
• What is Lindy's?
  • linked--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 17:29, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
• 4-team, 8-team -> four-team, eight-team.
  • fixed.--TonyTheTiger (T/C) Check out the WAWARD 18:09, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
• "The following table summarizes the Big Ten early season tournament victories:" no need for this, just change the section heading to "Early season tournament victories".
  • O.K.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 18:42, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
• Why some tables in small text, some in regular text?
  • I don't see this.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 18:54, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
• "2012 ACC–Big Ten Challenge" section, check en-dashes for the scores and records.
  • Fixed.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 19:08, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
• Same section heading, see WP:HEAD where it notes "Headings should not normally contain links, especially where only part of a heading is linked.".
  • Is this O.K. now?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 19:11, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
• Not sure you need days of the week under date columns.
  • Fixed.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 19:15, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
• Don't use bold to emphasise something (see WP:BADEMPHASIS) which I guess you're doing in this section to show the winning team?
  • There must be some exceptions.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 05:36, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
• Rankings table, per WP:ACCESS you shouldn't be using colour alone to indicate a specific property, such as improvement in ranking, drop in ranking etc. Up and down arrows could be used in conjunction so those readers who cannot pick out the colours can still understand the information in the table.
• Five teams have no rankings. Is this explained somewhere to the non-expert like me?
  • Four actually, but explaining that at no point in the season were these four team considered very good does not seem so encyclopedic.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 17:35, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
• "Big Ten Tournament Seeding Standings" "... seeding standings".
  • Fixed.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 05:36, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
• Check this section for misuse of hyphens in scorelines etc.
  • fixed.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 05:45, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
• Why suddenly switch to dd-mm-yy date format in the Big Ten "Player of the Week" table?
  • Fixed.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 17:45, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
• There have been multiple occasions where more than one player was selected so the prose at the top of this table needs adjustment.
  • Revised.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 05:48, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
• " 2013– 2013 Big Ten " odd, at least put a space after the first 2013.
  • adjusted text.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 05:51, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
• Big Ten Tournament section, en-dashes again.
  • O.K.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 06:03, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
• In general, why are there so many different formats of tables in this article? Colours, text sizes, emphasis different throughout, it looks most clumsy.
• NCAA Tournament. Table is sortable but sorts entirely incorrectly. (And needs en-dashes not hyphens).
  • Entirely incorrectly? You mean defeated/eliminated first and then school second instead of vice versa.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 17:00, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
• "2013 NBA Draft" section, what do the position abbreviations mean?
  • Fixed.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 17:14, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
• "Jr" linking to Junior is a dablink, there are two of them.
  • done.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 17:20, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
• Check references for correct use of en-dash in the titles.

The Rambling Man (talk) 15:34, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Overall I'm not happy at all with the prose, the adherence to MOS and the various table formats used throughout, it makes for a messy and incoherent article. I'm going to fail the GAN for now, but would suggest the above issues are resolved, and the GAN renominated in due course where, if I'm around, I'll be more than happy to take another look. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:34, 23 July 2013 (UTC)