Talk:2008–2009 Kenya drought

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• Lisaaroon
• LIUCs6
• Uni.bea.2020
• Cookeo7800
• LIUC24401
• Gino1899

Limelightangel (talk) 19:51, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Images

@LIUCs6: , @Uni.bea.2020: , @Cookeo7800: , @LIUC24401: , @Gino1899: Hi teammates, I have found a couple of images to add in the Background from Wikimedia Commons. However I'm unsure about the location of the second one "Köppen–Geiger climate classification map for Kenya", because I think it could be a good reference as we are talking about the temperature and climate change effects on Kenya, but isn't very specific. Let me know if you think it works of if you think it should be replaced with something different, or if it could be more appropriate in another paragraph. I have also found the same climate classification image but with reference to the future (2071-2100). Maybe we could use that too if we choose to talk about this in depth.—Lisaaroon (talk) 10:53, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Lisaaroon:,

I was thinking about writing a whole paragraph on the effects on climate (there is already a paragraph called micro-climate in the effects section), so I think it would be great to use your images (the one you've already published and the other one showing forecasts) to show changes. In the case there won't be enough sources to write a good paragraph (or if you don't think it would be at all a good idea to write it) I think that the image you've published is appropriate. If you're still unsure I can try to find other pictures and I'll submit them to you. LIUCs6 (talk) 11:19, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

@LIUCs6: I agree with you, I think we'll definitely have enough sources to put in the Micro-Climate section to add to what I've written in the Background. Should I completely remove all the climate informations in the Background or leave something generic?—Lisaaroon (talk) 11:31, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

@Lisaaroon: I think you should leave the informations until we'll have finished to write the paragraph, and then we'll decide whether to reduce or remove them completely because they can also act as a brief introductionLIUCs6 (talk) 11:36, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

@LIUCs6: Sounds good.—Lisaaroon (talk) 11:39, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

@Lisaaroon: I think we can leave the introduction as it is so we have a guideline of what to talk about in the paragraph, as @LIUCs6: said, we will decide later to keep it, change it or remove it.—Gino1899 (talk) 12:46, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

@LIUCs6: , @LIUC24401: , @Gino1899: I agree, we can leave it there for this week and once the page is almost completed we can decide what to. —Uni.bea.2020 (talk) 15.40, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

@Gino1899:, you have to finish responses to continue the work –LIUC24401 (talk) 16:03, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

@LIUCs6: , @Uni.bea.2020: , @Cookeo7800: , @LIUC24401: , @Gino1899: we have to look for images and put them on our page –LIUC24401 (talk) 16:05, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

@LIUCs6: , @Uni.bea.2020: , @Cookeo7800: , @Gino1899:,@Lisaaroon: do you have find any images? –LIUC24401 (talk) 17:08, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

@LIUC24401:I haven't searched yet, but keep in mind that we already have another image to add in the effect section, and that we should write about responses before looking for any image. I think that our priority for the moment is to develop the written part LIUCs6 (talk) 17:49, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

@LIUCs6: , @Uni.bea.2020: , @Cookeo7800: , @Gino1899:,@Lisaaroon:find pictures about masai and drought, look and search for links with the links related to our pageLIUC24401

Removal of Draft page banner mark-up

Someone has removed the first line of mark-up that creates a draft page banner. It was the first line of markup on the page, starting with "AFC submission...". It appeared above the line "Important, do not remove this line before article has been created". You can restore this by using an earlier version of the draft page (see Page History), or, better, copy the original draft page code from the top of an earlier version of the page in to the top of your current page. This is urgent and important, as you cannot submit the draft for review without iy. Limelightangel (talk) 10:23, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

@Limelightangel: Thank you. I think I have added it back, would you be able to check if it's right?—Lisaaroon (talk) 14:24, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

@Lisaaroon: Yes, fixed. Well done. Don't use personal names on Talk pages.Limelightangel (talk) 10:53, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Issues to address in draft (02/11/20)

• as an Educational Project, equal and regular contributions are required by all team members, both to the draft and the Talk page. Only User:Lisaaroon has made any effective use of the Talk page. User:Cookeo7800 has made zero contributions to the draft, and their User name is still in red.
• Sections: the convention is not to number these. See Help:Section
• Infobox: it needs an Infobox. See similar pages, and Help:Infobox
• References: ref 4. is a book and the format here is a year of publication, not an exact data (2016-02-22); for journal articles, reference the original publication, not the database you found it on i.e. not 'researchgate', but The International Journal of Climate Change Impacts and Responses 2(2):61-72. - learn how to use Ref Group in the cite templates to reference the same source multiple times from the text, but list it only once in the references - as you have done correctly for refs 3, 4 and 5. There are two references for an identical source (currently references 10 and 11). See Help:Footnotes#WP:NAMEDREFS. Several other references are incorrect e.g. 1 and 9. These need authors, dates, etc.
• Style: avoid words like 'nevertheless', 'though', etc. Remove the repetition related to the declaration of a state of emergency in 2009
• Links out: these need developing, including links to other droughts, and places.
• Images: the page needs acceptable, copyright free images, aligned and formated to the relevant supporting text. See Wikipedia:Images.

Limelightangel (talk) 11:07, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

@Limelightangel: Thank you for the corrections, I will fix the mistakes.—Lisaaroon (talk) 14:58, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Issues to address in draft (09/11/20)

• as an Educational Project, equal and regular contributions are required by all team members, both to the draft and the Talk page. No project members have used the Talk page recently, and only one at all - User:Lisaaroon. User:Cookeo7800 has still made zero contributions to the draft or Talk, and their User name is still in red; User:Gino1899 has made two edits, and none to the Talk page.
• References: refs. 1, 3, 4 and 7 need editing to add the authors names. Several paragraphs have no references, including most of the Food security, wildlife and Masai sections, and all of the inadequate section on Responses.
• Images: the page needs acceptable, copyright free images, aligned and formatted to the relevant supporting text. See Wikipedia:Images.
• Content: can you create a table of key drought statistics? Perhaps including statistics on monthly rainfall, temperature, etc. Needs more on facts related to the events. You can develop some sub-sections e.g. related to effects on tourism. See Scholar and similar for supporting references.
• Style: avoid words like 'however', 'and...and...and'; 'in fact'; 'therefore'; 'moreover'; 'now..'; 'the long run'; etc. What is the 'tea sector'? a geographic area, or market? 'by April' - which year? Use the past tense for past events.
• Links out: these need developing, including links to other droughts, and places. Links created in to the page, like from List of droughts, will appear in red for a draft page. You can protect these links by posting on the Talk page of these other pages, to simply state a draft page for the link is in progress. Sign these posts correctly. You could also add brief text on pages like Kenya, mentioning and linking to your draft. Understand and add some relevant See also links (but do not repeat in text links).

Limelightangel (talk) 12:43, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you :@Limelightangel: . We have started correcting the mistakes. I have only a doubt on the References: I added the authors to refs. 3, 4 and 7, however I can't find the author of Reference 1. The pdf only mentions that it is a product of "Regional Humanitarian Partnership Team". Should I leave that or do you have any other suggestion? Thank you—Lisaaroon (talk) 12:06, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Table

@Lisaaroon: @LIUC24401: @Gino1899: @Uni.bea.2020: @Cookeo7800: I've added a table showing the changes of temperature, do you think it would be better to add other criteria? I was thinking about attaching rainfall data following the same pattern (statistics from the past and predictions). Let me know what do you think works better LIUCs6 (talk) 16:31, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

@LIUCs6: I think adding the rainfall data is a very good idea.—Lisaaroon (talk) 18:40, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Issues to address in draft (07/12/20)

• See also: duplicates a link in the text;

External links: need to be formatted correctly and consistently Grammar: needs correcting e.g. 'because of the lacking annual rainfall.'; 'has been increasing.. '; ' consonant with the role';'More and more breeders'; etc. Style: remove words like 'however' (at least seven times), 'in fact' (twice), etc; be consistent with format for words like 'North', 'west', '2008 drought', 'Drought', etc. - check the style convention here; be consistent in the format for numbers e.g. 'ten', '2', etc;Limelightangel (talk) 09:18, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Issues to address in draft (08/12/20)

@Limelightangel: Sir we are not sure if the format in which we adapted the external links is what is required from you, or if we need a table?—Gino1899 (talk) 17:57, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

@Gino1899: It is not about what is required by me, but by the platform style conventions. See Wikipedia:External links Limelightangel (talk) 09:05, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 4 June 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved (non-admin closure) >>> Extorc.talk 06:37, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

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2008–2009 Kenya Drought → 2008–2009 Kenya drought – Appears to be more compliant with MOS:CAPS; cf. other titles in Category:20th-century droughts etc. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:36, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

Strong Support per nom Stan traynor (talk) 20:42, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Support per MOS:CAPS and not a proper noun. HandsomeFella (talk) 00:18, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.