Talk:1984 European Super Cup/GA1

Latest comment: 8 years ago by NapHit in topic GA Review

GA Review edit

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Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 08:25, 4 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

Reviewer: Harrias (talk · contribs) 10:28, 27 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

As The Rambling Man is busy at the moment, I have taken this on.

Lead
  • "It was the annual the European Super Cup contested between the winners of the European Cup and European Cup Winners' Cup. At the time, the UEFA Super Cup was generally a two-legged fixture..." The grammar at the start of the first sentence doesn't make sense, and then the mention of "UEFA Super Cup", rather than "European Super Cup" confuses things, making it seem like a different fixture. These two sentences need tidying together.
  • The second paragraph of the lead is a bit repetitive too. The first sentence repeats what I quoted above, and then the sentences after that go into more detail, but still repeat the detail from the first sentence. Depending on what you do with the first paragraph, I'd say you can remove the first sentence of this paragraph entirely, and merge this paragraph into the first.
  • "The two clubs met later in the season in the 1985 European Cup Final, which resulted in the death of 39 spectators due to a disaster that occurred prior to kick-off." It might be worth mentioning the result of that match as well, if you are going to mention it at all in the lead (which might not be necessary).
Background
  • "They had won unbeaten the.." Poor grammar, maybe something like "They had remained unbeaten throughout the 1983–84 European Cup Winners' Cup, and beat.."
  • "Their last appearance.." It wasn't their last as they appeared in 1984; maybe "Their other appearance.."?
  • Does reference 1 cover the whole of the first paragraph? If so, it should be cited in each paragraph, if not additional references will be needed for the information presented in the first two paragraphs (which can be merged into one.)
Summary
  • This section would benefit from additional sources, plus the one you have is attributed wrongly (not your fault, but the site you access it from). I have access through my local library to the Times archive, and that article was actually published on 17 January. A better reference might be {{cite news |url=http://www.londonhearts.com/scores/images/1985/1985011602.htm |title=Liverpool have no answer to Boniek |work=The Times |location=London |date=17 January 1985 |issue=62038 |page=20}}. No accessdate is needed, as it is a newspaper source.
  • The use of flags without any text to demonstrate which country they symbolise contravenes MOS:FLAGS.
    • More sources would be great, but I have looked high and low for a long time and this is the only one I've been able to come across. Reports for Super Cup games are scarce and newspaper archives are probably the only place where I could get info, but I don't have access to any. Regarding the flags, this is standard practice in WP:FOOTY and I know this has been brought up many times, ut nothing has changed so I'm not sure what to do here. NapHit (talk) 10:23, 1 November 2015 (UTC)Reply
      • I would recommend changing to {{flagathlete|[[Luciano Bodini]]|ITA}}, producing   Luciano Bodini (ITA), for example. I can see what you mean about sources, it isn't really a major issue for GA anyway. I'm hoping to get access to some more newspaper archives soon, so if I find anything in those, I'll let you know. Harrias talk 11:42, 1 November 2015 (UTC)Reply
        • Okie dokie, I've done this now. NapHit (talk) 15:24, 2 November 2015 (UTC)Reply
Post-match
  • "The two sides would meet again.." It has happened, so change it to "The two sides met again.."

Overall, not a bad article, though it could do with a bit more detail if possible, but I know for pre-internet matches this can be difficult. Harrias talk 10:28, 27 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the review Harria, I think I've addressed everything. NapHit (talk) 10:23, 1 November 2015 (UTC)Reply