Talk:Łuczyna

The Łuczyna article should be merged into the Gmina Dobroszyce article. There's not enough information about Łuczyna to justify a separate article. The Wikipedia notability guidelines say "If only a few sentences could be written and supported by sources about the subject, that subject does not qualify for a separate page, but should instead be merged into an article about a larger article or relevant list." (WP:WHYN) Leonporter (talk) 21:33, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

There are hundreds of articles on Polish localities. Usually they have just a link certifying their existence. Take it up somewhere else, don't disruptively tag all these places individually.VolunteerMarek 01:35, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Marek, please read the wikipedia notability guidelines at Wikipedia:Notability, and the merging guidelines at Wikipedia:Merging. I am following those guidelines, and so should you. Don't just undo my merge proposals. Allow a discussion and find a consensus. If there are hundreds of article stubs about Polish localities, they should be merged. Leonporter (talk) 02:12, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Here's a thing. A couple actually. First, if you think that all these hundreds of articles should be merged or stubbed, then bring it ALL up in some centralized place, rather than tagging them all individually for merger. If the consensus is then that all these articles should NOT be merged (as I can pretty much guarantee), who's going to remove all them tags? You? Or is someone else going to have to come along and waste their time cleaning it all up?

Second, for someone who's hardly edited wikipedia ( a few edits July 2006 - then a four year break - a few edits September 2010 - then a year+ break - January 2012) you really shouldn't be instructing regulars to "read the wikipedia notability guidelines"; when did you have a chance to familiarize yourself with those? Like I said, bring it all up in one centralized time, that will be a waste of people's time enough.VolunteerMarek 04:22, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Please see my comments at the main merge proposal at Talk:Gmina Dobroszyce. Villages are considered to be notable on Wikipedia.--Kotniski (talk) 11:09, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Marek, with regard to your first point, in what centralized place would you suggest that I raise issues like this? The wikipedia merging guidelines say the right way to propose a merger is to tag each article, so that's what I did.

Although I have not edited wikipedia as much as you have, that doesn't mean that I don't have the right to suggest improvements such as merges. Nor does it mean that I have not read the notability guidelines. I have, and I'm following them. Again, the guidelines clearly say "If only a few sentences could be written and supported by sources about the subject, that subject does not qualify for a separate page, but should instead be merged into an article about a larger article or relevant list."

Many individuals in my city have their phone numbers listed in the phone book, which is a reliable source. That doesn't mean there should be a separate wikipedia article for each person, just listing that person's phone number. Similarly, if the only information about a village is its population, that doesn't mean there should be a separate wikipedia article for that village just listing its population. Individual apartment buildings have more residents than some of these villages, but it would be a bit much to have a separate page for each apartment building.

I'm not suggesting that the information about the villages be erased, but rather that it be consolidated in one table in the gmina article. If any village does become notable enough to merit its own full article, then an individual article can be created for that village.

Kotniski, what is the basis for your claim that "villages are considered notable on wikipedia"? I don't see that anywhere in the guidelines. See my further comments at Talk:Gmina Dobroszyce. Leonporter (talk) 17:17, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

The guidelines don't give a full picture. Many past discussions have led to this conclusion (tens of thousands of US villages have their own articles without there being anything special about them).--Kotniski (talk) 17:59, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Expansion

Good effort. Though that won't be possible for all the tagged articles.

I also can't resist pointing out that currently the article has 592 words, which makes for 1.3 words per inhabitant.VolunteerMarek 20:05, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

OK. Thank you for expanding this. I'm removing my merge proposal tags from all the affected articles. Leonporter (talk) 20:12, 16 January 2012 (UTC)