Help talk:Media (audio and video)/Archives/2010

RealPlayer does not use DirectShow, current instructions won't work

Since RealPlayer does not use DirectShow, installing the Illiminable plugins aren't sufficient to get playback working in RealPlayer. Instead the Xiph plugins for Helix need to be installed. Tuxcantfly (talk) 17:02, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Has this information been added to Wikipedia:Media help (Ogg)? It still states "RealPlayer (download)" followed by "Go to xiph.org/dshow." and "Download the current stable version." -84user (talk) 18:20, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Illiminable link

Related to my RealPlayer query above, what exactly are the Illiminable plugins and how does a reader get them? Does the http://www.xiph.org/dshow/ provide them? Could an expert please make it clearer?

• Yes, that is the plugin I was referring to. Tuxcantfly (talk) 07:14, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Also, if correct, I suggest rewording the Windows Media Player line like this (simpler logic):

1. Most Windows users will already have Windows Media Player installed on their computer. If you do and are happy to use it then skip to step 2. Otherwise, please install another player from the list below.

-84user (talk) 18:20, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Using Silverlight 3's Raw AV Pipeline for Ogg Vorbis and Theora Playback

The latest version of Silverlight supports 3rd-party codecs via the raw AV pipeline, as mentioned in the release notes. An Ogg Vorbis player in Silverlight has already been implemented; a Theora version would also be possible. Given that Cortado is a rather inadequate solution for those using browsers without native Ogg support, and Silverlight's install base is steadily increasing, perhaps a Silverlight-based Ogg player should be added as an option? Is there any project ongoing at bringing a Silverlight-based Ogg Vorbis/Theora viewing option that I can get involved in? Tuxcantfly (talk) 20:43, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

• In fact a pure C# Theora decoder has already been written; all that remains is to create the hooks to the Silverlight raw AV pipeline API. Tuxcantfly (talk) 21:13, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
• And there now apparently exists a plugin by Nuanti that does just this; http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/02/nuanti-brings-html5-and-ogg-theora-video-to-silverlight.ars Tuxcantfly (talk) 00:23, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Google Chrome and Chrome Frame for IE

Firefox 3.5 isn't the only browser that can play OGG natively, so can Google Chrome (as of version 3). Also, the Google Chrome Frame plugin for IE would work as well, but I don't know if Wikipedia is currently set up to aknowledge use of the plugin. Nintendo Maniac 64 (talk) 05:42, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

• Wikipedia pages don't have the "X-UA-Compatible" "chrome=1" meta tag, so Chrome Frame isn't used on IE. Tuxcantfly (talk) 22:04, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

I have just tested a freshly installed Google Chrome 3.0.196.2 (see Commons:Help talk:Converting video#test.avi results) and I find it plays the thumbnails in wikimedia commons Ok, but it fails to play the uploaded files and it fails to play OGG files locally. This contrasts with Firefox 3.5.5 which plays OGG files from thumbnail, from galleries, from direct upload link and directly from the local disk. Is there a beta or developer version of Chrome that might work? -84user (talk) 15:14, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Update myself: Now I just fully deinstalled Google Chrome 3.0.196.2 and retried the Google installer. That gave me version 3.0.195.32 which has subtly different audio sync problems from 3.0.196.2, but is an improvement. The remaining bugs appear to be bad audio sync on replay, the lack of volume control and contradictory context control. -84user (talk) 17:13, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

I am running the current Chrome beta (4.0.249.43) on Windows and it plays ogg formats well. --Jake3373 (talk) 20:56, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

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I am running Google Chrome 4.0.249.78 which is a stable build. It can play Wikipedia and local OGG sound files, without any extensions. It also works perfectly fine if set to be the default player. I'd like to see this page now edited to include Google Chrome in the OGG player list.Tangmeisterjr (talk) 22:15, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

I support your request to add Chrome to the list for OGG sound files. Also for Theora video files, but with a caveat that the user may see and hear glitches with combined audio video files. For example, I find Chrome version 4.0.249.89 plays the videos listed in Commons:Help talk:Converting video#Calibration test videos and at commons:User:84user/Video tests#ffmpeg2theora version 0.26 with the same errors as version 3.0.195.32, except zoom works correctly now. Chrome sometimes glitches on replay with File:Test avi.ogv, a 6 second test file that most players except Firefox and Media Player Classic have problems with. -84user (talk) 02:59, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Please state the exact wording that you are proposing, thanks. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:25, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm.... I dunno, really... I'll get back to that. And as for the replaying of that video file, Test avi.ogv, it works until you want to replay by pressing the pause button instead of the scroll bar at the bottom. Though it's probably going to be fixed if it's brought to Google's attention. Tangmeisterjr (talk) 17:40, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Please change link at the end

There's a pointer to the Video category at the end of the article. It should rather point to Category:Videos which are actual video files and not onlt photos related to video. Dittaeva (talk) 21:33, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Plays with no sound

I'm using Firefox 3.6 and when I find one of these files, it plays it but there's no sound. Does anyone have an idea of what might be the problem? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.20.47.58 (talk) 22:13, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

I have this problem as well. Firefox 3.6.8, Arch Linux. Sound works perfectly fine in VLC, mplayer and with flash. I suspect that Firefox needs to be configured to use Jack, but I've not been able to figure out how. (I could not make jacklaunch + FIREFOX_DSP work for me, as jacklaunch does not seem to be available for Arch?). --Alexander256 (talk) 11:43, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Waterfalls12, 5 June 2010

{{editprotected}} Google Chrome and Opera also can play Vorbis and Theora natively. These browsers should be added next to Firefox.

Example: instead of

• Firefox 3.5 includes native support for Ogg (Theora and Vorbis) (download) , or

there could be

• Mozilla Firefox 3.5 (download), Google Chrome 3.0.182.2 (download), and Opera 10.50 (download) include native support for Ogg (Theora and Vorbis)

Notes

• Wikipedia - Vorbis audio codec
• Wikipedia - Theora Audio Codec

Waterfalls12 (talk) 23:58, 5 June 2010 (UTC) Waterfalls12 (talk) 00:19, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

 Done HJ Mitchellb | Penny for your thoughts? 00:23, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Playing embedded ogg files in Firefox

This is how I got embedded ogg files to play in Firefox on Windows.

1. Go to file associations in Windows and associate ogg files with QuickTime

2. Download the ogg plug-in for QuickTime called XiphQT 0.1.5 (Windows). It's available here http://www.xiph.org/quicktime/download.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.179.145.79 (talk) 23:36, 21 October 2010 (UTC)