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Latest comment: 13 years ago2 comments1 person in discussion
What is a Muslim apologist how can you have a cat without even knowing what it means?--Halqh حَلَقَة הלכהሐላቃህ (talk) 18:30, 28 November 2010 (UTC)Reply
Highly subjective term which could be used for anyone who advocates Islam using rational explanations. It also sounds pretty negative.--Halqh حَلَقَة הלכהሐላቃህ (talk) 20:05, 15 December 2010 (UTC)Reply
@Vice regent: agreed - it seems to be a loaded category. Muslims have nothing to apologize for, any more than followers of any other religions. TimTempleton(talk)(cont) 14:54, 8 August 2020 (UTC)Reply
Would you like to nominate all such categories for deletion? I'd do it except I've not done this before.VRtalk 15:55, 8 August 2020 (UTC)Reply
Islamic apologetics vs apologist for Islam or Muslims
Latest comment: 3 years ago4 comments3 people in discussion
Timtempleton I saw this edit. That link you added (Apologetics#Islam) refers to Islamic apologetics, where Islamic doctrines and theology is being defended, and Islam is being promoted as the true religion. It is analogous to Christian apologetics. Hence most people in this category are also Islamic missionaries of sorts, like [Zakir Naik]] and Ahmed Deedat.
But now we have a debate here (Talk:John_Esposito#Incorrect_removal_of_Category:Muslim_apologists) on whether Esposito is an apologist. Esposito is not an Islamic missionary and is not defending Islam as the true religion. However, he still defends Islam and the Muslim world in a political way. There are tonnes of scholars who have done that, including Edward Said, Reza Aslan etc. Should he be in the same category as the missionary apologists above? VRtalk 02:49, 12 August 2020 (UTC)Reply
Vice regent For once I kind of agree with you. I thought something similar when I saw this category. In my opinion who defend the Islamic religion should be categorized as "Islam apologist" (new Wikipedia category), while who defend Muslims, as humans that happen to have a particular religion, should be categorized as "Muslim apologist". Grufo (talk) 03:02, 12 August 2020 (UTC)Reply