Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Articles-Images in danger of deletion
This page can be used by project editors to alert each other where articles or images are under challenge in some way. It should be a kind of noticeboard, worklist, discussion forum, rapid reaction force, or challenge confirmation exchange.
Initially the two types of item being considered are basic Wikipedia articles in the WP:Novels project scope and Wikipedia images that are used in such articles, typically cover images.
Challenge types edit
Articles
- Prod
- AFD
- Copyright
Images
- For major list of book cover images in fair-use dispute see User:SkierRMH/List4.
- Unspecified source
- Fair use rationale needed
- Orphaned non-free media
- Non-free use disputed
How to use this "noticeboard"! edit
- When you find an article or image that is under threat take details and include information below.
- Regularly watch this page to see if others post such items.
- Include your comments on the listing or perhaps the "challenge".
- then respond suitably to the challenge in the accepted was (each type of challenge requires a different response)
- Once the process has been completed (either way) the template
{{Resolved|1=~~~~}}can be included at the end to show closure.
e.g.– :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 11:33, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
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n.b. do bear in mind that even if you might personally feel attached to the item, the challenge may be entirely justified and the proper response would be to assist in the challenge rather than defend the item.
Adding an item edit
A template has been provided to structure the entries
Usage:
{{subst:NVAlert
|concern= "PROD", "AFD", "Copy", "Source", "FUR", "Orphan", "NonFree" etc.
|type=filetype "Article" or "Image"
|name=filename the item name itself (needs to be exact)
|desc= freeform descriptive of the problem with your comments.
|user=~~~~}}
Please remember to include your reason for proposing deletion, and please use an edit summary when you propose an article for deletion.
| n.b. | "PROD", "AFD", "Copy", are only relevant for articles. |
| "Source", "FUR", "Orphan", "NonFree" are only relevant for images. |
Disputed novel articles edit
Lady Amber (article) edit
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still trialing this approach so this is a real Prod but included by way of a test |
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- Article now redirects to Mossflower. 23skidoo 12:53, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
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Bitterwood (novel) (Article) edit
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Article being challenge on referencing and notability issues, some referencing has been added. Notability seems to be an open debate still. |
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- Article now gone. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 14:56, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
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Wainscot (article) edit
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reason given "non notable neologism in use solely by the creators of the term" which may or may not be true |
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- Article now redirects to Panelling. Which may or may not be adequate :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 14:56, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
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American Retaliation (Article) edit
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from nominator: "non-notable novel" |
User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 09:49, 3 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
ResolvedDeleted 2007-11-06 --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 10:36, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
The Messiah Code (Article) edit
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from nominator: "non-notable book" |
User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 13:12, 4 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
ResolvedRedirected→Michael Cordy 2006-11-06 --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 10:36, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Panic Snap (Article) edit
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from nominator: "non-notable novel" |
User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 13:35, 4 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
ResolvedDeleted 2007-11-06 --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 10:36, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Scream Around the Campfire (Article) edit
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from nominator: "non-notable book" |
User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 14:40, 4 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
ResolvedRedirected→Graveyard School (book series)#List of Books 2007-11-06 --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 10:36, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Slavery for their Own Good (Article) edit
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from nominator: "non-notable book" |
User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 18:52, 4 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
ResolvedDeleted 2007-11-06 --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 10:36, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Solomon and Lord (Article) edit
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from nominator: "non-notable series of books" |
User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 18:52, 4 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
ResolvedRedirected→Paul Levine 2007-11-06 --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 10:36, 7 November 2007 (UTC)Standard of Care (novel) (Article) edit
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from nominator: "non-notable book" |
User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 18:52, 4 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
ResolvedDeleted 2007-11-06 --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 10:36, 7 November 2007 (UTC)Before Armageddon (novel) (Article) edit
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from nominator: "Fails WP:BK. There is no assertion of notability for this anthology. (The individual stories may be notable, but the article fails to explain why this collection is notable as well.)" |
--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 10:36, 7 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
Resolved- added notability statement relating to author of introduction.
101 Ways to Bug Your Teacher (Article) edit
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PROD nominator states: Article lacks reliable independent sources to verify the notability of this book. |
User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 01:12, 22 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
ResolvedWikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dark River (Warriors) (2nd nomination) (Article) edit
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Article taken to AFD as it has been PROD-nominated despite an earlier AFD trip. |
User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:56, 23 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
A Heated Life (Article) edit
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PROD nominator states: "Novel by non-notable writer, no references, book is probably not notable". PROD has been seconded with the statement: "Delete under the auspices of WP:CRYSTAL." |
User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:36, 26 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
ResolvedHendley Associates (Article) edit
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Nominator states: Article fails to show real-world notability. AFD link. |
User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 13:32, 3 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
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NJ Exchange Program (Article) edit
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Statement from PROD nominator: "Poorly written gibberish giving no realworld context or notability". |
User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 09:46, 14 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
ResolvedAmerican Chillers (Article) edit
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PROD nominator states: "spam" |
User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 04:30, 11 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
ResolvedBolvangar (Article) edit
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PROD nominator states: "In-universe plot repetition taken from the Dark Materials books with no assertion of notability" |
User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:50, 12 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
ResolvedThe Death Tower (Article) edit
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Nom. for deletion by User:RMHED who states "A non-notable pulp novel". |
User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 05:38, 1 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
ResolvedDouble Z (Article) edit
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Nom. for deletion by User:RMHED who states "A non-notable pulp novel". |
User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 05:40, 1 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
ResolvedThe Delivery Man (article) edit
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Nom. for deletion on the grounds that the book hasn't been published yet. I checked and it is due for publication by Grove Press, a major publisher, and there is already at least one online review of the book |
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Here Comes the Sun (novel) edit
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Tom Holt novel listed at AFD apparently on the grounds that the article is a stub.. |
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- More on the grounds of notability - so it would need defense on that basis. Added some content myself - could do with more though. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 09:28, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
- I could have sworn the stub argument was made initially. Perhaps the nominator made a revision. In any event Tom Holt is pretty notable so it's still worth saving regardless (plus, as always, the outcome of book series AFDs have a potential impact on other series articles. 23skidoo (talk) 16:31, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
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Guardians of Ga'Hoole Book 14: Exile (Article) edit
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Latest entry in a notable series of novels. |
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ResolvedLobo (The King of Currumpaw) (Article)
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Notable author, reasonably well-known short story |
Henry Merrivale (talk) 10:25, 8 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
ResolvedThrough the Arc of the Rain Forest (Article)
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Nom. for deletion by User:Bradv who states "No assertion of notability; no references or sources". |
Henry Merrivale (talk) 23:18, 10 June 2008 (UTC) | ||
- Still being challenged
The Collector Collector (Article)
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Notability in dispute; I have added some comments to the associated discussion page; anybody else help ? |
GrahamHardy (talk) 17:09, 23 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
- Added a bit more to article to assert notability although still need a better image and an infobox GrahamHardy (talk) 23:31, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
The Gift of Rain (Article)
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Notability in dispute; The novel was nominated for the booker prize; does that not confer enough notability to warrant an article? |
GrahamHardy (talk) 23:34, 7 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
Pillar of Fire (novel) (Article)
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Nominated for deletion as non-notable: author Judith Tarr is notable, though, and there should be sourcing out there, possibly offline. |
SarekOfVulcan (talk) 02:30, 13 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
Relentless (novel) (Article)
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Being considered for deletion despite being the bestselling thriller in the UK in 2007. |
GrahamHardy (talk) 16:39, 8 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
Disputed book cover images edit
Simon Templar series images edit
During the Christmas holidays my talk page was spammed by the Betacommandbot. Among the many images it flagged as having no rationale (which of course is utterly wrong - it just doesn't have the template certain factions have taken as being law) are several images from the Simon Templar "Saint" series. I uploaded 50 of the things and I refuse to waste my time without pay to bring it in line with Beta's standards; presumably they're all marked for termination, or will be soon. If someone wants to go through all 50 books and reinvent the wheel, please do so. Otherwise the images can die as far as I'm concerned. 23skidoo (talk) 02:12, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
NakedLunch1stedition.jpg edit
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The bot strikes again. Per my earlier statements via PMs I'm no longer working on "saving" images, but I am listing it here for the benefit of anyone who wishes to jump in. 23skidoo 22:41, 10 November 2007 (UTC) |
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ResolvedHousesixtyfathers.jpg (image) edit
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I am listing this here simply in order to promote the use of this page. The BetacommandBot had deleted a cover image (not this one) which I uploaded even when I added the non-free use rations and correct licensing. This time its Image:Housesixtyfathers.jpg that is in danger. I'm going to sovle it myself but just incase I missed something I'm posting it here for help. KGV (Talk) 05:57, 8 November 2007 (UTC) |
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ResolvedCyborg4firsted.jpg (image) edit
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I am listing this here simply in order to promote the use of this page. Betacommandbot has clearly flagged this image in error as there is plenty of wordage in the Fair Use rationale to cover the fair use justification. I have left a message on the Betacommandbot talk page and reverted the flag with no changes necessary. |
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ResolvedATasteForDeathFirstEdition.jpg (image) edit
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The Betacommandbot is trying to delete this first edition cover. I'm listing this in order to promote the use of this page, but I'm going to handle it directly. And I make no apologies for sounding snarky as I do so. |
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- Nor should you! The only thing is, it is difficult to debate a Bot. Sometimes I notice they make silly mistakes such as criticize a "Fair use rationale" that is there, but doesn't use an accepted template. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 08:37, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, I was a little harsh on the poor bot! Near as I can figure the only reason the image was flagged was because the Summary did not specifically include a wikilink to the article in question. I wonder how many images have been lost as a result. This is one reason why I am no longer submitting new images of any kind of Wikipedia. 23skidoo 14:44, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- Understand, however as I have started adding the template I have had no further images thrown out or even challenged. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 14:51, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, I was a little harsh on the poor bot! Near as I can figure the only reason the image was flagged was because the Summary did not specifically include a wikilink to the article in question. I wonder how many images have been lost as a result. This is one reason why I am no longer submitting new images of any kind of Wikipedia. 23skidoo 14:44, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
ResolvedFootloose doll.jpg (image) edit
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Again this is a first so by way of a test - but it is real challenge |
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- The image has gone so this is over
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