User talk:Raintheone/Archive 4

Gina Palmer

I admit there's been a grey area for some time as to how the character should be referred but it's now reached the point where HA's Gina is referred to as Gina Palmer by all the other characters and listed as such in the cast list. I did check the official site and acknowledge she's still Gina Austin there but that's a secondary source and probably just lagging behind. So I think all current-centric articles should reflect the current name. I changed it on the template but I notice you've now changed it back. Skteosk (talk) 17:09, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

The problem is that it is just the characters calling her Palmer - we go by the real world perspective remember - plus The official site is actually a primary source not a secondary. The H&A website have updated the character pages since Gina married John. The best thing to do Skteosk is to check google hits and compare - then maybe it can be changed.Rain the 1 17:28, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Except, as I said, she's listed as Gina Palmer in the end credits. It is a new thing, it's only the past month they've changed it, but I'd say that's a definite assertion that that's how the character's known. I'd say the actual show is the primary source, the official site is just there for promotion and supplementary material, much of which is later contradicted by the show. (They gave contradictory accounts of Angelo's family, for instance.) Surely we should be going by what the show calls her, rather than what the publicity people or the fans call her? A google search quickly turned up this, indicating at least one official site uses that name. Skteosk (talk) 15:13, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Gina Austin returns more google hits than Gina Palmer. I think we should stick with Austin for now (it is her WP:COMMONNAME after all). - JuneGloom Talk 21:10, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm not saying necessarily to change the article name. However, in the case of the template and other articles which are meant to reflect the "current" state of the show, I feel we should use her current name. Skteosk (talk) 22:13, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Oaks

Hey, you happy for Candy Browne to be redirected? Can't believe we've missed it! D4nnyw14 (talk) 18:35, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Is the Template:Hollyoaks characters past section for all past characters including minor or should only regulars or important characters be on it? D4nnyw14 (talk) 18:37, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Yes and we usually include anyone with an article and all regulars.Rain the 1 18:48, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Done! Logan Fairhurst, Arlo Davenport, Ricky Bowen, Terry Williams, Pete Webster, Veronica, Melody Longford and others are minor and don't have their own page, should they stay? D4nnyw14 (talk) 19:36, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Well Logan, Arlo and Melody were all regulars but mysteriously written out - they filmed more but Marquess reshot everything and cut them out. Wouldn't know if Terry was a regular and Pete and Veronica were guests.Rain the 1 19:43, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

So should they be removed or not? D4nnyw14 (talk) 19:51, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Just remove the guests.Rain the 1 20:13, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Removed them and some more, readd any you think should remain, there are loads of guests or recurring characters still. D4nnyw14 (talk) 20:37, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Cut out more, add any back you don't agree with, i've removed the 'non regulars intended as regulars' aswell. Some characters had only been in a few episodes, some only one. D4nnyw14 (talk) 21:11, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

I don't agree no - seeings as you removed a whole host of regulars. Didn't you believe me about the regulars that were axed? The guy who played Logan had been filming episodes that were meant to air in January 2011 when he was axed. Just like the woman who played Melody.Rain the 1 21:26, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

I just think you should have culled the ones we know for sure are not regulars. Saves arguements too - and well it worked up until this point - if we do it that way people can say "Well I think this character aint important so I'm removing them" and we can't really argue with that then - if it aint broke don't fix it.Rain the 1 21:37, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Add the ones who you think are regulars back, it was definitely broke, the likes of Diane Valentine who was in 3 episodes, Eamon Fisher was in 3 and Karen Taylor who was in a whole episode, were on the template. I don't see how or why we'd class characters who appeared in a few episodes and were axed, they were hardly regulars if they appeared for a few weeks. D4nnyw14 (talk) 22:59, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

But some of them were like talking about how they joined the regular cast - The person played Arlo - his casting was announced alongside Amber Sharpe - and both down as regular. I'll take a look tomozza.Rain the 1 23:21, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Fair enough, although Danielle Malone said she was a regular, Arlo doesn't even have a list entry. What about Liz Burton, redirect? D4nnyw14 (talk) 23:23, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Haven't you ever seen those scenes on Youtube, with Logan investigating India's death? With Liz, try and find some info - there should deffo be stuff for her in Inside Soap.Rain the 1 23:25, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Nope, haven't seen them; would we have got him instead of Ethan? I don't think i can be bothered with Liz but if you want to work on her i'll leave her. D4nnyw14 (talk) 23:32, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Oh yeah - he is in every scene Ethan was in during his first few months - apart from Liberty cus she was a new write in with Ethan. There were also some with Melody to with that Earl and Lee. Lemm find some links.Rain the 1 23:41, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Here it is [1]Rain the 1 23:56, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Hey, where can I find the scenes with Melody in?--AcidBrights (talk) 14:12, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Cannot find them anymore, if it helps on the website they used to show quite a lot of previews of the week ahead - it was in one those.Rain the 1 14:49, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Any that you want to readd do so, personally i don't think those who filmed scenes and then were cut should be counted as regulars but if you do add them, most of Logan's scenes were from later. D4nnyw14 (talk) 17:27, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Done.Rain the 1 20:53, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

I was thinking about merging Darren's section on 'fatherhood' into the Nancy section but with him becoming a father again their might be more development, would it be best to keep all stuff on him being a dad into Nancy's section or keep the separate section? Do you think there is anything from the Nancy section that should be cut out, it seems really long? D4nnyw14 (talk) 20:19, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Remember we couldn't remember if Darren mentioned divorcing Hannah? It was in 2011 according to this source, maybe the scene was cut as i don't remember it ever being mentioned. D4nnyw14 (talk) 16:08, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Good find, atleast you have a source now. Still cannot remember it being mentioned - but it was still during Marquess' refilm everything era lol.Rain the 1 16:18, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Hey, this image of Sarah Jayne Dunn is some rights reserved but in the caption it says all material must be credited to London Media, if we upload it who would we credit, the flickr account or London Media? Darren's FA was closed a few days ago without receiving any support or anything, it's not like a Peer Review where you revert it if it isn't compelte, you just leave it don't you? D4nnyw14 (talk) 23:19, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Credit both in the description. It is a shame that Darren didn't gain any more suggestions. Soap articles never do there though.Rain the 1 23:25, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

So i'd just upload it then add London Media aswell? D4nnyw14 (talk) 23:27, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, that is how I see it.Rain the 1 23:38, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Done. D4nnyw14 (talk) 23:41, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

I take it you are not much for the actress then.. :/Rain the 1 23:46, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Which actess? D4nnyw14 (talk) 00:01, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Just saw that - [2]Rain the 1 00:18, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

I'm confused. D4nnyw14 (talk) 00:23, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Are Tony and Cindy in a relationship again or did they just sleep together a few times, i'm going to try to sort Tony out? And after rereading what what you were saying about SJD it was supposed to say Dunn not Dumb, i was tired at the time and i'd been speaking jibberish all day. I like SJD, still think it was stupid how she disappeared, sure something went on behind the scenes. D4nnyw14 (talk) 11:30, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Oh right, lol. Maybe she quit because they gave her nothing to do and just got her back with Tony. Which is like what they have done with Cindy and Tony all of a sudden. Tony needs some work fo sure!Rain the 1 13:19, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Seems abit off for her not to have an exit though. Tony is a good character but is never used, wouldn't be surprised if Nick Pickard quit in a few years. D4nnyw14 (talk) 13:27, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Sorry to be a nuisance but if there is anything useful in the HO Book about Tony could you scan it? I've still got scans about Luke and Lewis from you and JG, i'll add them in a few days. Do you think the Tony/Mandy image is necessary, i've removed it from Tony's article, should i remove it from Mandy's too, it isn't really significant. D4nnyw14 (talk) 16:31, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

I'll look in my old Inside Soaps for ya too. I'd remove the image tbh, I am against using any of them other than an infobox one these days.Rain the 1 18:03, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, i agree, unless the character has been played by more than one actor or has changed alot. Peggy Mitchell has about 6 images which is way too much. D4nnyw14 (talk) 19:59, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Hey, any chance you could look over Tony's sl section, it is way too long but i don't know what to remove. The section didn't mention Tony's mum, his relationship with Ruth, Mandy hitting Tony, Julie leaving him at the altar, Tessie lying about being pregnant. So much was missing! D4nnyw14 (talk) 21:58, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

At the 2001 BSA Pickard was nommed for Best comedy peformance, i can't find a source for it online, can you think of any solution other than using a cite episode for the programme because i mightn't be able to find all the details for the show like when it was on etc. I could leave it unsourced i suppose. Another thing, which is really trivial and barely matters, which image of Pickard do you think is better, we have about 3 now? Thanks D4nnyw14 (talk) 20:00, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Hey, just wanted to let you know that i'm still around just busy. Haven't edited for nearly a month! D4nnyw14 (talk) 21:53, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm glad you popped in - did wonder where you had got to! Everyone seems to be disappearing atm. :/Rain the 1 22:55, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

I saw that AB had left, has anyone else left or just him? D4nnyw14 (talk) 14:33, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Not officially - Everyone seems to have gone inactive thats all, like most of the EE lot.Rain the 1 14:37, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh good, has GSorby started watching and editing HO now? D4nnyw14 (talk) 14:41, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah he has - and June has started watching again too. Woooo.Rain the 1 14:44, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

At least you're not alone now AB has gone and now i'm less active atm. How you finding HO atm? D4nnyw14 (talk) 14:47, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

I am so excited about Stug - I haven't shipped characters in years, but I just love this storyline. I also like Texas, Jodie and Dodger, so I hope they revisit it soon. I'm also really like Joel's stuff. Don't like most of the teens still and now they're revisiting SinBart boring relationship. You?Rain the 1 14:58, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

The teens are awful, i love Phoebe though. The Joel stuff has been bad, Brendan is being dragged down by him too. The Stug stuff is good and keeps getting better as it goes on. The Mitzeee stalker stuff was good and i thought i'd be disappointed if the stalker was Mercy but i'm not. She's completely unhinged now, most people hate Mercy but i love her and Jen is great. Texas/Jodie/Dodger is ok but not that great, they just keep having storylines about sexuality one after another and if the characters aren't likeable like Texas and Jodie its bad. D4nnyw14 (talk) 15:07, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

We sure like the opposites storylines! lolRain the 1 15:39, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Do you think i should add something to the article about Mercedes being commonly referred to as Mercy for short, or do you think i should change all the referances of Mercedes as Mercy to [Mercy]? D4nnyw14 (talk) 23:56, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Hey, on Silas' article some of the development stuff isn't really development, like the other storylines section is just storylines not development, should i remove it, i know AB worked on it but hes gone now so i thought i'd ask you before butchering the article. D4nnyw14 (talk) 19:00, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

"I'd say that that you are no fan of the show and just come here for a chat and a chance to slate the show." - 100% right, its mostly people bitching now and moaning about how bad the show is. D4nnyw14 (talk) 21:58, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Doctor Characters

Hi, just going to say thanks for doing the moving of the character articles, I wasnt sure if they are meant to have 'Dr' in the page name. Some of them articles were terrible! Well, they all (par Freya Wilson (Doctors) have nil to none references. :) MayhemMario 16:06, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

They are very bad articles indeed. Do you watch Doctors though? I need someone to update Freya's storylines.Rain the 1 16:10, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

No, sorry :) I was just looking through random articles, then they popped up. I'm going to try and sort out all the backstage stuff, (redirects, links, dabs, etc.), especially on the list. Why did you take an interest into Freya? Also I redirected Kevin back to the list. MayhemMario 16:19, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Well I haven't watched Doctors for years - The only characters in it from when I did watch it are Jimmi and Julia. It was because the lady who plays her is quite interesting on Twitter - So I just randomly did it. If you can tidy it up the linking mess, that would be good.Rain the 1 16:26, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Oh! You see this, it is redirected to List of Doctors characters for no reason whatsoever, so it should be deleted. I've got to go now, do it all tommorow. MayhemMario 16:37, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Deletion review for File:Simon Wicks 2012.jpg

I have asked for a deletion review of File:Simon Wicks 2012.jpg. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. --George Ho (talk) 22:37, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Erm... So yeah - I had nothing to do with this... but I'll go and look at this discussion.Rain the 1 22:48, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

I thought exactly the same thing. - JuneGloom Talk 23:24, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

UPDATE: This image has been restored. Nevertheless, it is relisted for FFD discussion. You discussed it in Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2012 March 6, so you may be interested to improve the FFD consensus. --George Ho (talk) 21:59, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

All this mither over a image. I am spending my free time adding content - seems more appealing everyday.Rain the 1 22:08, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Todd Manning image again

See File talk:RogerHowarthToddManning2011.jpg. Should I alert the WP:SOAPS project of this discussion? Flyer22 (talk) 18:12, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

Happy Birthday! I hope you've had a brilliant day! :) x JuneGloom Talk 20:27, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Nom Nom. Thank you dear. :)Rain the 1 21:04, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Happy belated birthday! Hope you had a lovely one :) Frickative 11:37, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

I echo the happy birthday sentiments. If I'd known, I'd have already sent you well wishes about it. Flyer22 (talk) 20:29, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you Flyer.Rain the 1 21:04, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Hey, I forgot to tell you that I started watching Coronation Street. Well, mainly just an edited version documenting the love story of Sophie and Sian, but it's good. Flyer22 (talk) 22:07, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Happy Belated, Rain. Hope it was a good one! Conquistador2k6 10:21 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks.Rain the 1 11:27, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Frick.Rain the 1 03:57, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Doctors Articles

Hey Rain! I have cleanuped all Doctors articles now. I just need to add sources! I added Mandy to the 2012 list, using some of your information on the Freya article. I hope you do not mind! I have created a new template Template:Doctors characters, aswell as overhauls of List of Doctors characters, List of past Doctors characters, List of Doctors characters (2000), List of Doctors characters (2007), List of Doctors characters (2009), List of Doctors characters (2010), List of Doctors characters (2011), and most of all; List of Doctors characters (2012). Aswell as this I have done the character articles. The only ones I ahve nto touched are Freya, the main Doctors article, List of Doctors locations and Decade of Doctors. I hope everything is okay :) MayhemMario 17:01, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Good work - Why would I mind, they need all the help on offer! :)Rain the 1 17:09, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Hehe, I worry too much :) MayhemMario 22:09, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Kinda pointless

But think, Curtis Reed could have been entertaining! :O Lu E. Seefer (talk) 02:42, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, you seem to think you were reading about someone other than Curtis Reed of Home and Away. I'm afraid I don't know any others, so I was only able to lend my considerable knowledge to that sole particular article. Lu E. Seefer (talk) 02:45, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Give me time. My fingers are quite cold, so I require warm-ups periodically. Lu E. Seefer (talk) 02:50, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

I still love you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lu E. Seefer (talk • contribs) 02:57, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Fin

Oh. Um, whoops. Hope I haven't messed things up for you too badly and you can make use of what I did. I did try and listen to some of the points you made about my last article, using the other infobox, linking to the actors and writing in the present tense. I had a look for references but I didn't find anything suitable so I thought it best to just leave it. Skteosk (talk) 01:08, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

If you couldn't find any references why did you create the article? - JuneGloom Talk 01:13, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

How can I make use of a mass of storyline detail? People say woops in the event of an accident. You created it fifteen minutes after I asked you not to. I knew exactly what it would be - that is why I asked you not to. I was going to create Fin after Frank. I would have spent the time working on it.. As for the offline sources for the character, threw the lot in the bin. IMO you are no team player.Rain the 1 01:55, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

I saved it fifteen minutes after you asked me not to. How long do you think it took me to type it out? Maybe I should have looked harder for references but anything I find is usually deemed not good enough and it's hard to be a team player when no-one wants you on the team and tends to ignore you or "correct" you if you suggest something. (Although it's probably an accurate assessment either way.) Skteosk (talk) 02:07, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

How fair am I? I have invited you numerous times and offered you the tools to find sources etc - I've advised you, I begged you to add sources. If you had replied I was going to suggest a sandbox, which you could help out on. I bring the real world world info and establish notability, while you help fill in the gaps and make a good run through of plot. C2k6 helped me out recently on a sandbox, we worked together - I found the sources - he did the storyline sections. I'm not expecting everyone to add sources if they do not wish, it is free time that kindly donated - but you cannot create an article without sources - we found a good middle ground, a deal that works out well - he enjoys writing about the character history like you - I like the hard facts - an article with both elements mixed in, which is deemed acceptable.Rain the 1 02:28, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I don't recall you making such an offer in the past but such an arrangement would be fine with me. But conversations on the subject just seem to dry up or go off at a tangent. You have made a few suggestions on how to find sources but trying them out never seems to work for me. Skteosk (talk) 08:23, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Well me and JuneGloom never seem to have any trouble for old H&A characters.Rain the 1 19:35, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

And that, I guess, is what they call a conversation stopper. Skteosk (talk) 20:56, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Well where have you been looking Skteosk?Rain the 1 21:05, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Google News mainly. I've done a normal Google search but that tends to mostly turn up fan sites, which aren't considered reliable sources. Skteosk (talk) 22:19, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Well, there's half your problem. You need to start looking in places like The Free Library and the Fairfax Media News Store. News.com.au also offers a good search tool, which looks through newspaper sites such as the Herald Sun, The Australian and The Daily Telegraph. - JuneGloom Talk 00:20, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. I'll bear those in mind if I'm ever in that situation again. Skteosk (talk) 00:57, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Nancy Wesley as Good Article nominee

Nancy Wesley (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I must give you congratulations to contributing this article about a fictional character of Days of our Lives. In fact, I have loved that character very much, and I have seen a lot of effort you have done, especially when I saw the references. Recently, I have nominated this article as a Good Article because... your writing style blew me away, references have been well found which no other person would find them the way you did, and plot is well-written. Nevertheless, I wonder if you or I must expand the "Storylines" section, unless it is adequate. Also, I love the fact that you put a free image in the "Character development" section. Again, congratulations. --George Ho (talk) 09:50, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the compliment. I found the sources included rather easy in the News archive. Once the DYK phase is out of the road, I was going to attempt a further expansion. Including the storyline section. :) I do think there is more to be done for the article.Rain the 1 14:28, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Nancy Wesley

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:31, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Help

Hey. Hope your doing well. Could you please upload an image of Johnny Ruffo from X Factor? Oz ^talk 00:12, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Just had a search around and there are no free images available. In addition there are not many pictures of him on Flickr, but I'm asking around. Not looking too good at present - but I'll sure keep a close eye out. Sorry about that.Rain the 1 00:24, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

That's okay :) Oz ^talk 00:34, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

H&A

Kudos. After a month of wax and polish, it's finally up!

You up for another one? The Question is; Which way are you going if the answer is yes? 1989 or 1991? Conquistador2k6

Ok.Based on my findings (rewatched pilot and other summaries) the appearence order of the regulars to start us off

• Frank
• Tom
• Pippa
• Sally
• Steven
• Carly
• Lynn
• Alf
• Neville
• Floss
• Bobby
• Don
• Ailsa
• Martin
• Lance
• Matt
• Roo
• Celia
• Morag

We can work out where the rest go (Sgt. Barnett, Alison, Nico, Barbara, Alan, Brett, Stacey, Philip, Martha, Christopher, etc ) later. It's safe to say we can move Floss, Neville and Lynn into that list as they were foolishy cut in the first year and content on the former two is pretty scant. Conquistador2k6 10:00 2 April 2012 (UTC)

I got the 1988 list started in My userspace (bit barebones but the foundation's there - It is a work in progress after all) but It'll need that extra Rain magic so be my guest; Mi Userspace es Su Userspace! (Repaying the favor on our last collab). BTW, I used your section on Al Simpson that was originally on the 1990 list. So it has at least one source. Deal with rest tomorrow. 'Night Conquistador2k6 01:54 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Sure, I'm in no hurry as I was with the '90 list. This one seems probably better if it cooks slowly. BTW, Found the actors for Frank's Folks Les and Helena (who appeared in flashbacks) if you need them for his article. Floss' main article seems a bit lacklustre for standalone but I'll leave it with you. Conquistador2k6 13:27 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Mario Kery and Lee Sanderson played Les and Helena, respectively. Conquistador2k6 14:29 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Soz. Force of habit! I'll try not to in future :). Did you manage to cough up anything for Floss in any of her 2000s returns? Conquistador2k6 16:39 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Hmm... I conceed Foley's a lost cause. There is one small thing that may save Christopher but it's clutching at straws - Shaun Wood's interview on Backtothebay.net, I'm aware it's a fansite but places like perfectblend.net have been used in the past (The Shauna O'Grady Interview for Beverly Marshall's article) and no challenge has been made to that. I'll deal with it tomorrow. Conquistador2k6 02:30 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Truth is, I've been spinning my wheels for weeks and only really doing a bit of "housekeeping" on the article. I'm trying desperately to find something concrete for Christopher and Barbara (who, IMO, were pretty important characters) and some other guesties (Mostly Anthony "Ghost from Matrix" Wong and Gerry Sont, particularly the 2005 return for the latter; now that would be a feather in the cap) from then but my resources are limited in comparison to yours. Where's Emmett Brown or Marty McFly when you need 'em eh?  :) Conquistador2k6 17:20 28 April 2012 (UTC)

I understand. Wikipedia isn't the be-all and end-all of existence. We're not robots (though I do wonder if you're part vampire with these post-midnight mauradings :) Plus you've had your hand up Hollyoaks for the last few weeks. And your Frank article is looking pretty ripe Conquistador2k6 17:41 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Glad you finally finished Frank. You massaged that article forever! Found a few sources for Fin but not sure if they'll stack up. They're pretty scant in places and one of them is from that Talking TelevisionAU site which delves into old TV Week magazines. Also, you have Geoff listed as Annie's Sister, lol. Talking of Annie; Do you need any help with her storylines at all? (should be quite short as she was never one of my faves...). And lastly, the '88 list, It seems you hold most on of the cards on that one. Conquistador2k6] 12:59 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Sure, I'd love to help. Tug was one of my faves from the Mid-90s (Hated him for picking on Damian and framing Shane for theft at first but grew to like him). Got Joey Rainbow in userspace but I can toss to that one side. Start Tug off and I'll leap in. Conquistador2k6] 22:57 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Not entirely sure about the tractor thing. Maybe when somebody on youtube digs up the ep, I'll know for sure.Conquistador2k6] 11:57 3 June 2012 (UTC)

OK, I'll set to work on Kelly ASAP. I think your Tug and Annie articles are about ready to go live as we've covered every base. BTW Do you have anything further on Joey Rainbow (characterisation, reception)? or even anything on Sarah Thompson (been looking to restore for a while but very little in the way of anything concrete). Conquistador2k6] 12:46 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, When if/we get round to the 1993 list Sarah will go in. It should be a VERY short list as only Three new regulars were introduced; Luke, Sarah Angel were introduced and the only recurrent characters of any note from that year were James Healey (You know him better as The Mentalist these days; lol) and Nathan Roberts (who was recast in 2002). The other members of Joey's gang seem to be a lost cause and should go into lists. Hopefully we can get '88 out of the way first and worry about others later. I'm in two minds wether to restore Lachlan or keep him in the sandbox until more is available than the four sources I already have (first and last app dates, departure and memorial reception). I only just got away with Donna, considering her brevity. Conquistador2k6] 23:44 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Go for it! In fact I yelled out for help during editing Lachie. I'll take all the help I can get! After all you did let me in on Tug and Annie. I did kind of stick my nose in with Sasha stuff, thought you were ready but not. Conquistador2k6 23:58 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Do you have anything of note for Tom Nash? I Currently have him in userspace and have casting and reception (will do storylines tommorow; whacked after Euro2k12 pub sesh!) Preferably the Terri Garner or Justine stuff. Same permission granted to wade in Tom on ala Lachie and Joey.Conquistador2k6 00:13 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Nooo, not my Tom! Oh well, good luck with it. :) I'll get back to Luke's article. - JuneGloom Talk 00:05, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

After reading, I've granted "custody" of Tom to June and I'll hold off the sandboxes; Guess I went a bit crazy in my restoration crusade. I'll scale it back for now. Conquistador2k6 10:50 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia

"Take this as your final warning, any additions of unsourced information (or than plot) and I will be forced to alert an admin. I believe that it would be in the best interests of the project to do so now - but I think everyone should have a chance. Thank you.Rain the 1 18:45, 28 March 2012 (UTC)"

This message, together with the misuse of terms like "novel synthesis", left on my Talk page, display a profound misunderstanding of the Wikipedia project, its philosophy, collegiate nature, guidance and - above all all - etiquette. Sue Zuki (talk) 10:02, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

You added unsourced information - you would not correct this - you remained adamant that this was standard procedure. Original research does not have the backing of the community. I'm not sure how my message displayed a "profound misunderstanding" of the project - I was more than fair. As for "etiquette"; I live in chav central so there was never much hope for me. However - I would say that I surpass the general requirement.Rain the 1 12:35, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

resource request

Hi,

I've uploaded the articles that you requested at the resource exchange. You can find links to the articles at that page. Best, GabrielF (talk) 17:18, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Replied - Thank you very much for your help.Rain the 1 18:04, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Rae Wilson

Hi, Raintheone, I've completed the copy-edit you requested to the above article; I'm sorry it's taken so long. Please feel free to contact me at my talk page if you have any questions about the copy-editing. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 04:35, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the copy edit, such a help. :)Rain the 1 23:58, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Margot Robbie

Hello!

Can you do me a favour please and next time Margot Robbie is vandalised in the same way the page was vandalised today, let me know? I just trawled through the page history and saw how long that has been happening for. I was in two minds whether or not to change her protection level from 1 week to permanently blocking IPs and new editors for good but I've decided to leave it sticking at 1 week for now. Hopefully in that time they'll discover a life but if it happens again to that page I think I'd go for indefinite semi-protection and probably move-protect it indefinitely too.--5 albert square (talk) 23:50, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

I will do - it has been happening for some time and but nothing was done about it last time I alerted people about the situation. Atleast you are interested, so I shall be more than happy to keep a sharp eye out. :)Rain the 1 00:01, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi

I will be moving Karl today.--AcidBrights (talk) 08:07, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

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DYK for Ivan Jones (Emmerdale)

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PJ Brennan

The name of the magazine is Reveal magazine stating PJ Brennan's sexuality. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.238.112.136 (talk) 23:21, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you - I'll get it later and restore the info. :)Rain the 1 06:05, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

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Tyler Moon

Hey Rich. Dunno if you still have the scans from Anthony's article?

I've scanned these from Inside Soap and uploaded them - [3] - Filled the refs out cus it is easier.

• I did not see the point in scanning this - Question:- "Which of the new Moons are you looking foward to seeing in action in Albert Square - Eddie, Anthony or Tyler?" Results - Eddie had 74%, Tyler had 14% and Anthony came last with 12% ... REF - Ellis, Sarah (18 - 24 June 2011). "Your verdict". Inside Soap (24). Hachette Filipacchi UK: 97. {{cite journal}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help); Check date values in: |date= (help)

• Ellis, Sarah (13 - 19 August 2011). "Soap Box". Inside Soap (32). Hearst Magazines UK: 96. {{cite journal}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help); Check date values in: |date= (help) - Obviously this is SOAPBOX with cartoon characters of Lola, Anthony and Tyler. I always use the what Sarah says in the ref corner box as Reception. -this was the one I was talking about, :) MayhemMario 16:57, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

• "10 plots you can't miss this summer". Inside Soap (28). Hachette Filipacchi UK: 7. 16 - 22 July 2011. {{cite journal}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help); Check date values in: |date= (help) - Is the quote box titled "9. More scheming from Michael" - It could be useful for storyline development or Anthony's relationship with Michael.

• "Matt Lapinskas is at your mercy!". Inside Soap (37). Hearst Magazines UK: 50, 51. 17 - 23 September 2011. {{cite journal}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help); Check date values in: |date= (help) - This interview has a mock image of Matt Lap playing a guitar in a pink quote box.

• Woodward, Kate (23 - 29 July 2011). "Well hello, Anthony!". Inside Soap (29). Hachette Filipacchi UK: 4, 5. {{cite journal}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help); Check date values in: |date= (help) - This interview holds the "Moons Vs Mitchells" feature in the red box at the bottom of the page.

• Tyler, Laura-Jayne (1 - 7 October 2011). "Eddie knows the truth!". Inside Soap (39). Hearst Magazines UK: 7. {{cite journal}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help); Check date values in: |date= (help) - That's the random interview with David Essex, he mentions how he babysat them, but he says the same thing in every interview - atleast it wont go to waste on Eddie.

I'm after the "Your verdict" one on page 97 (I think). I only ask as I'm trying to build up Tyler's article, and the reception says "Anthony came third with X% of he vote, I want the Tyler rating! Cheers George^Ping! 10:53, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

It's already there, the sentence says Tyler had 14% of the vote. - JuneGloom Talk 13:34, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

I take it you won't need it now then?Rain the 1 16:20, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh yeah! Ty June! and thanks Rain! George^Ping! 18:29, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Bye

Just to let you know I've decided to leave Wikipedia. Thanks for all your help over the past two years, bye. :)--AcidBrights (talk) 08:14, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh dear, I do hope everything is okay. Stay well and hopefully you return sometime. And Hollyoaks has been lucky to have your time!Rain the 1 18:42, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Refs

I do not appreciate coming on here to find you have taken all my links from Doctors and Casualty, which I worked hard to find which you had no right to take, whether I have left Wikipedia or not! So, I would appreciate it if you would delete them as I gave you no permission what so ever!--AcidBrights (talk) 20:49, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

I have removed them. Not sure what good they were to you anyway - not like you can sell them or anything. I mean serrrrrrriously...Rain the 1 21:41, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

WP:ACCESS and small text

There is nothing on WP:ACCESS that forbids the use of <small>. In fact, it says to use <small> instead of <font size=whatever>. I do not know what you are reading on the page, but please do not enforce this false application of the manuals of style, again.—Ryulong (竜龙) 17:27, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Actually it says the ultimate goal is to make pages easier to navigate and read. Unessessary small text is not a step in the right direct. It is slightly unfair to expect everyone in the world to read tiny text without any difficulty. Please think about the partially sighted in future. Thank you.Rain the 1 17:46, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

This is general practice in denoting the difference between two cuts of a song. You can see this on articles such as Video Phone (song). And there is nothing on WP:ACCESS that forbids small text. It is in fact promoted to use that formatting. And it is the only instance of resized text on the article. Do not remove the formatting on Picking Up the Pieces (Paloma Faith song), again, because then you are going against other manuals of style without anything backing up your personal preference on the matter. And even then, you are arguing size choice in the infobox, when the prose presents the same information in full sized text.—Ryulong (竜龙) 19:11, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

And also, there are featured articles that use this formatting in the infobox to show the difference between the different released cuts of songs, such as All You Need Is Love (The JAMs song), City of Blinding Lights, and Smells Like Teen Spirit.—Ryulong (竜龙) 19:17, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Linking me to other articles on songs? What is to say they are not in the wrong? That is other stuff that has little to do with this article, the commonality is that they are songs. I could pick out any article and match it view - and say that because they are articles on Wikipedia - we must follow their example. That is why otherstuff is generally accepted as an argument to avoid. I'd much rather focus on what is best for this article alone. It is almost as though you are ignoring the core value of ACCESS - making it accessible to all. You accuse me of acting on preference, when you appear to be doing the same thing. However, I can read the text perfectly and this is no personal preference. That is not to say everyone will. It does not take much to work out that the smaller text becomes, the harder it will be for the partially sighted folk to read it. In addition - I would prefer it if you would not tell me what to do without citing any valid guidelines. If you find one that says small text is mandatory in infoboxes for song, I will be more than happy to accept it.Rain the 1 19:38, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Those are featured articles, which means the community has decided that they are the pinnacle of writing and other items. It is a common practice, and may very well be written in some manual of style that I cannot find anywhere at this time. And if people have poor eyesight, it is not text that is illegible by screen readers or other items.—Ryulong (竜龙) 20:15, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Seeings as you are too busy at the moment to find the relevant MoS - there is not much point in carrying on this discussion, at present. Enjoy your evening Ryulong.Rain the 1 22:03, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Excuse me, I am now getting very annoyed. I did my research into the character of Dylan, and for the second time, you have removed my input. I find this unconstructive and I call for you to maybe do your research before editing VALID information. I am getting tired of having to keep re-writing it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laurenlouiselawson (talk • contribs) 23:54, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Favor?

Would you mind looking over the Storyline section that's been recently placed in the Todd Manning article and letting me know what you think of its inclusion? My only problems with it being there are that it will undoubtedly attract a lot of fancruft editors and will subsequently start to violate WP:PLOT...and that all those headings are unneeded. I don't much mind that it's WP:INUNIVERSE, since most plot sections are written that way and there is a lot of plot information that's not in-universe already in the article.

I know that I'm always coming to you about this article. But there aren't many good soap opera article writers on Wikipedia, outside of plot summary writing, as you know.

And thank you for initially standing by me and worrying about me during the whole sockpuppet ordeal. Flyer22 (talk) 05:49, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Hey there. I think that the 2012 GH section needs cutting down - it is overly detailed and focuses too much on recent events. Where is the other plot info too, the Victor Lord Jr incarnation - which was really Todd from the real world perpective? Maybe if the plot could be cut down a little more (which could prove hard) then the sections could be separated into OLTL and GH storylines as the two subheadings. Just a thought though.Rain the 1 22:46, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Raintheone. I don't see how the plot sections before the 2012 section could be cut down. They are relatively small. But I'm definitely going to remove the unneeded subheadings. Whenever you think you can help out with the plot sections, please do. Flyer22 (talk) 15:18, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

The "2012—" section certainly needs cutting down. Right?Rain the 1 15:19, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

LOL, yes. Flyer22 (talk) 15:24, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Karl Munro

Hiya

You still needing help with this? Just not been around much on Wikipedia, busy moving offices at work :)--5 albert square (talk) 00:29, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Are you still needing the merge done on this?--5 albert square (talk) 19:51, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Well it has not been done yet, so I'd say so.Rain the 1 20:07, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Wasn't sure if you'd got someone else to do it :)--5 albert square (talk) 20:29, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Get to it gurl. :pRain the 1 20:48, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

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Ray Meagher

Hi

I've indefinitely semi-protected Ray Meagher now because of the vandalism that happened on the page a couple of weeks ago. I've also sent the diffs off to the oversighters to see if further redaction is needed given the nature of the edits and the fact it's a BLP. Got fed up of this happening all the time :), just like I did with Margot Robbie, hence why she's also indefinitely semi-protected. From what I understood of the links on Ray's page it looks as if this has all come about with someone setting up a Facebook page to deliberately smear his name? :(

Can you do me a favour please and just keep an eye on the page and let me know either on here or on Twitter if the same thing starts happening with autoconfirmed users now? I have asked Oversight to review my decision to protect the page given that the vandalism happened a couple of weeks ago but in all honesty I'd be surprised if they disagreed with me.--5 albert square (talk) 10:27, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

User:Tomjovanovic

Hello!

Just to let you know, I've started a discussion on June's talk page about the above user that you may be interested in.--5 albert square (talk) 12:58, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Frank Morgan (Home and Away)

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Dodger Savage

Hey Rich. I'm working on splitting Dodger off from the list as there is quite a lot of real-world info out there. I need a favour though. Since I started watching Hollyoaks about 2 months ago, I am completely in the dark about Dodgers past storylines and his section does not have one storyline...could you update it so I can put it in my draft pls? Cheers, George^Ping! 11:09, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Hey - this is kinda awkward. Danny is working on Dodger's article here and I did say I'd help him out on it when I have the chance. He decided to revamp Mercedes article in the mean time.Rain the 1 16:24, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Oh nuts! That's fine, should've checked first! But ta anyways George^Ping! 17:31, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Well you could try Will?Rain the 1 17:33, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Aadi and Asha Alahan

I appreciate your recent message, but surely it's worth nothing? They were born in January '06 and upon their return they were in the same school year as Simon Barlow who was born in July 2003, meaning they were born from September 2002 - August 2003. It's worth noting that they have been SORASed, as people maybe wondering why two six year olds are now supposedly eight or nine years old? Alex250P (talk) 21:07, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Ivan Jones (Emmerdale)

I don't know if you noticed, but I have reviewed Ivan Jones (Emmerdale) for GA status. It is currently on hold. Sorry for not informing you earlier! Glimmer721 ^talk 22:59, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Sorry I did not realise. So I will pop over now and take a look. Thank you for reviewing.Rain the 1 23:01, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Soaps and songs

Ha ha, I completely forgot about Black Heart and couldn't work out why you were editing my userspace. Do you want to carry on working on the reception section and I can start the background stuff? I tweeted you a video too, I think you'll like it. - JuneGloom Talk 19:01, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Lol well it has taken me 8 days to start helping out with it. But yeah sure, I did just add some music video info I found before I read this. And I have just watched the video, cannot wait for it to start!!!Rain the 1 19:17, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Oh, carry on with the video section by all means! You've found some great info there. - JuneGloom Talk 19:48, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Say you were creating this article, what would you call this section - [4]? - JuneGloom Talk 00:35, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

I am really not sure. "Fued with Toadie" is the only one I came up with as it has a good focus on Troy and Toadie - but there was more to it, like about getting Sonya back and getting Callum onside. I'd of probably just gone with Introduction too.Rain the 1 01:18, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

I was thinking of "Reuniting with Sonya" at first, then "2011", but maybe something along the lines of "Meeting Callum" could work. There wasn't that much info about for his first stint, but there's loads for his second and he's not been back on screen that much yet! - JuneGloom Talk 00:11, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Don't you just love DS? - [5]. JuneGloom Talk 22:06, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Ahh yes - very nice. Can we count that in the live performance section? I might start helping on Connor if you don't mind?Rain the 1 22:19, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Yep, that's what I was thinking. I don't mind at all. I was just about to add something about Michelle and Carmella's returns. - JuneGloom Talk 22:22, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

I added it. I was going to add the live lounge info too, but I do not know what date it was performed and the video won't load for me.. I'll head over to Connor now.Rain the 1 22:43, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

I'll investigate. - JuneGloom Talk 22:49, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Live Lounge info is done, as is the background section. There is a couple of things for the video section I thought you might want to add, otherwise the article looks about done. - JuneGloom Talk 23:58, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Sure thing, might do it in the morning though as I'm getting tired.Rain the 1 00:03, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

I know she's only been on screen for three months, but do you think Vanessa could have her own stand alone article? I think I've established notability and I've covered all the important areas (casting, development, reception). - JuneGloom Talk 19:12, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

I think she should have her own article because the development section is detailed for a character of her tenure. She has been well covered in sources. The fact that she isn't going anywhere anytime soon means there is potential for the article to carry on expanding beyond its current state. I'd say it ticks the boxes.Rain the 1 19:15, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

I should note that I'm not desperate to get it out of my userspace, in case that ever comes up. But like you, I think it ticks all the boxes. I'll get the lead done and maybe move it in the next couple of days. It's just fortunate that she was given a major storyline (or two) as soon as she arrived. - JuneGloom Talk 21:40, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

I know that you only move articles into the mainspace when you have exhausted all sources. Knowing her there will probably be even more development info added by then. lolRain the 1 21:48, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

I think this will come in handy - [6] - JuneGloom Talk 17:32, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Wonderful - I'll be able to get some better screen shots too. :DRain the 1 17:52, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

How did we not get an edit conflict note - [7]? Lol. - JuneGloom Talk 15:38, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

I know, I thought I pressed submit twice at first.Rain the 1 15:40, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

A Few bits for Lance Powell you may need; First appearence: 5 July 2000, Last: 26 August 2003. Father: Ted Powell, Mother: Mrs. Powell (Brookside never gave her a first name). C2K6 Talk to me, FFS! 11:29 2 July 2012 (UTC)

No problem, Brookside Soapbox is a biiig help! C2K6 Talk to me, FFS! 15:54 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Hey, your section is down below Mister. ;) Rain, I tweeted you. - JuneGloom Talk 17:12, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

I tweeted you, I need help. - JuneGloom Talk 01:04, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

H&A

Rain, you need a hand with Dan's SLs, and Ibox bits and bobs (length of marriages, date of death, etc) at all? C2K6 TALK TO ME FFS! 23:10, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

OK, I'll see what I can do later (The match is calling my name!). Andrew, Bertram, Jeff and possibly Alison could do with a trim. TBH, I only did so much on Andrew as he was all but a regular for two years but since there's bugger-all on him OOU, I'll chop some more off. You couldn't help out with some of the other blurb bits for those with main articles (The ones I haven't touched) could you?C2K6 TALK TO ME FFS! 18:51, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Great! the more people that can get articles the better. I already have Sarah's stories put aside in my offline version of the 1993 list, If you crack on with either a restoration or a creation, I can copy them over. The award nomination for the musical episodes should cover her in reception as she was caught in the middle of the Tug/Shane feud. Good idea playing off the back of as they were the show's B-couple back then. Talking of lists, I feel We are nearing the end of '88 (closer than we were two months ago!), I will admit some areas aren't as polished and I've been shaving the stories in the others box as far I can but, It's ripening IMO. C2K6 TALK TO ME FFS! 00:20, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Anything you have on Floss for article or blurb for the list would be brilliant. And also some stuff on good old Ceils to get things going especially now she's headed Bayward (I have suspicion this was a sort of tactical change the fill the void Colleen left), I raided fairfax and came up with squat on her time in H&A (It's mainly geared towards her PCBH days). Somehow, I knew there'd be a lot of Beth info as H&A was watched by 10-12m viewers here in the mid-90s and was getting the magazine covers and her story with Tug was one of the hottest stories of '94. Someone's deffo getting her own infobox, or her when we get round to the year she joined! :) And lastly, is the additional developmenton Dan you CBA to add one of those lenghty pieces that go on and on? C2K6 TALK TO ME FFS! 00:51, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Not rushing or anything you , but do you have at least one spare piece on Celia (something from one of the books, perhaps; The newspaper/mag articles I've come across usually have more to do with Vera Bennett rather than Celia). I can see you're visibly busy with Hollyoaks but one my goals for this weekend is to send out List of Home and Away characters (1988). I truly think its ready, given the investment that's gone in (sourcing to the hilt) and would really like to see the return. Ms Stewart is the final piece of the jigsaw. Thanks in advance for helping bring it to life. And as for Stevenson dating Pearen; Lucky git! :) C2K6 TALK TO ME FFS! 16:07, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Well, 1988's finally up! Behold our creation. C2K6 TALK TO ME FFS! 18:30 , 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Do any of the books/mags you have come with any stuff for Dodge? His story arc was a pretty high-profile one and his return was well recieved. It would just suck if he had to go in the others pile. Also, if you have that Sarah source, it'd be a great help for my other project (1993) or will you be waiting to give her an actual article? C2K6 TALK TO ME FFS! 01:05 , 5 July 2012 (UTC)

I've pounded the bejesus out of 1989 (Killed me to put Dodge in others but if the stuff you have from Stevo's POV isn't upto scratch, then so be it) If you anything specific on Zack the Shark Hunter, I'd be grateful even a slight mention of Mark Conroy's casting will do. BTW, I have 1991 on the burner in a word doc (Ever since finishing the 1988 last week, I feel like Superman, LOL!). I've come to a conclusion that Simon, Greg, Damian and Ryan Lee are all lost causes due to the lack of general items on offer and should be entered. David Croft is a no-brainer and Stuff on Naomi Watts' character, Julie would be a coup. C2K6 TALK TO ME FFS! 16:26 , 7 July 2012 (UTC)

OK... I can get that started tonight (lemme finish my '89 redirects) do you have the OOU at hand for Sarah? I'll slap the construction tag on as well. TALK TO ME FFS! 01:25 , 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, 1991's going better than I thought it would. I figured I'd start as 7TWO and a few more my subscriptions on Youtube are showing that year. As before the invitation still stands for that list as it does for 1993 and any future list I cook up... Talking of cooking, Sarah is simmering nicely so far. Tug looks equally springloaded (sort of an any day now). We're definitely getting somewhere. C2K6 TALK TO ME FFS! 01:33, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Guess I am taking it to the next level a bit. Aside from me, you, June and Skteosk to a degree nobody's really bothered about H&A here as opposed to the other shows. Completing the first two seasons gave me that rush. The list will have to do for now because Information on those four guys is virtually nonexistant, which is shocking for Damian as he was a regular and was a key part of the Early-mid 90s setup on H&A (although he ended up playing 5th wheel in the Shane/Angel and Tug/Sarah dynamics). You're more likely to get Mag stuff on Ryan and David than Damian or Simon (the latter of whom was pretty forgettable and basically quickly drafted to replace Haydn as a mate for Blake) and they weren't even regulars. However, I suggest not ordering any more mags until you use the ones you recently shipped in to do the tasks you have planned. No pressure, I can scale it back to about second gear if you're feeling overworked. I'd say we're about 40% there. As you've got the Finlay stuff and the storylines exist in the article's revision history, she's spared from the list.

I'll see what I can do with Lance P's stories. Been Yonks since I saw Brookie but it was one of fave soaps back in the day (preferred it to Corrie and Emmerdale then). C2K6 TALK TO ME FFS! 11:46, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Ok, Looking good so far. Thanks a million. Yep, Ryan can definitely stay in the list. I think Simon and Greg can sufficiently fly solo now. C2K6 TALK TO ME FFS! 00:27, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

I Dream was a random edit and I figured the shows set in Spain category needed filling. I was surprised when I saw Christopher Lloyd's name in the credits (work's work I guess). But to more important matters... Fin is the next key piece for our operations. I think we've done more on H&A in 6 months than anyone's done the whole time the character category's been here... LOL. C2K6 TALK TO ME FFS! 01:40, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

I've shaved it down from 7 paras to 5 and done some rewording. Bit of nip/tuck here and there.C2K6 TALK TO ME FFS! 18:02 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Do you have anything on Erik Mitsak/Josh Webb that may take them out of the others list on the 1991 page? Given he was a regular... C2K6 TALK TO ME FFS! 11:03 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Sweet! All the info on Revhead and David would be perfect, The latter moreso to give '91 that real shot in the arm. You Rock! C2K6 TALK TO ME FFS! 01:20 28 July 2012(UTC)

Haven't seen him possess a musical ear or talent like Paul Jensen in the 1990 eps but I'm willing to bet he was named after the composer of the same name... C2K6 TALK TO ME FFS! 11:08 31 July 2012(UTC)

No Rush or anything but do you have any other David Croft stuff? I've covered SLs and reception so far and I'm looking to send out the list within the next day or so (I honestly think we've gone as far as we can with it) He's the final piece of the jigsaw. C2K6 TALK TO ME FFS! 01:03 6 August 2012(UTC)

Cheers a mil. I'll move the page tommorow. C2K6 TALK TO ME FFS! 01:08 7 August 2012(UTC)

Meg getting her own article works for me (less work!). I'll ditch the development for her for now and I'll return Kelly to others. As the saying goes, you can't make an omlette without breaking a couple of eggs... C2K6 TALK TO ME FFS! 00:38 7 August 2012(UTC)

What I meant is not everyone can get everything right all the time, or to achieve good results you gotta endure some bad ones first. Anyhow, You're welcome to tinker about in this sandbox as you see fit. C2K6 TALK TO ME FFS! 00:49 8 August 2012(UTC)

To save getting my head bitten off for copypasta, I'm asking in advance wether I should use the Dixon source for the 1993 page. C2K6 TALK TO ME FFS! 23:48 9 August 2012(UTC)

I think I've run out of gas on my current 2 lists thus far and once again am in need of your services. Cue theme from the Godfather... That burst of energy was good while it lasted. The areas that would be great would be Tamara, Mary, Kelly, Roy and Nathan, Laura Brennan if anything is floating around for them. 02:37 19 August 2012 (UTC) C2K6 TALK TO ME FFS!

Isabelle was basically used by Nick on the rebound from Lou during the early stage of the whole Ryan business. I'll add her to the list of others in 1991. She only appeared in two eps during the early part of Nick/Lou/Ryan (God bless Backtothebay). Hope that helps. 02:37 19 August 2012 (UTC) C2K6 TALK TO ME FFS! 15:02 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Do you have anything for Jai (list worthy, I don't think he'll get his own article at any rate) or at least Elliot Gillen? These days I'm running on empty Home and Away-wise as my last few projects have come to a halt. I'm just doing general groundskeeping at the minute and if things get any slower for me, I may just force myself to write Kim Hyde's storylines (The thought fills me with dread) C2K6 TALK TO ME FFS! 15:29 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Hey does this mean...?

Hey, by looking at this Flickr image, [8] it says the licsene is; "Some rights reserved", which leads to the rules,[9], which says that we are allowed to copy, distribute, display, and perform the work aswell as to make derivative works. This is along as we; give the original author credit and not use this work for commercial purposes. Does this mean we can upload it? If this is yes, can you? Thank you very much! — M.Mario (T/C) 21:19, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

It is not good news. We cannot upload files under that license - the ones which are accepted at commons are listed hereRain the 1 21:25, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Oh dear, is there any way we could get in touch with the author to release under a free license? — M.Mario (T/C) 21:31, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

You can ask them via their Flickr account - or email if possible, some where in the guidelines there is a template to help with off-site requests.Rain the 1 21:40, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Black Heart (song)

Thank you from the DYK team at Wikipedia Graeme Bartlett (talk) 18:00, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

List of UK top 10 singles in 2012

Just wondering why the most recent edit was the one you chose to revert. The entire article's information is currently unsourced, as are the majority of UK chart-related articles. I would say that I will add references for each chart week on the article, but that'll take some time—so I may begin work on it later in the week. AlligatorSky (talk) 22:01, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Well that would be because you added the information fifty-six minutes before the chart was released. I'm talking about the chart published online that is generally used as a source. What kind of attitude is that to take anyway - you should be helping to improve the situation by adding a source. Just because the information already there was unsourced is a poor excuse to be adding more original research. In addition, isn't the article in the unsourced state it currently is because of you? I looked through the history and noticed you have added a whole raft of unsourced material.Rain the 1 21:59, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

As I said before, I will begin to source the information provided by the article during the week; though UK chart pages have remained unsourced for years now, it just seems odd that you're both being critical this late and penalising me for it—I am merely continuing the work I took on from another member a year or two back. AlligatorSky (talk) 23:20, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

You said that you may decide to start adding sources, which is an alarming statement. I would say that the community in general would not think it odd I challenge unsourced material being poured into the encyclopedia. What they may find odd are your reasons for doing so. I'm not sure why you think there should be a time frame to ask an editor to stop breaking the rules either. Late or not, it needs to change AlligatorSky. It takes less than a minute to add your source alongside the information you have gone to the effort to add. But you have now stated your intention to improve it - which is great.Rain the 1 22:36, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Hollyoaks

Hey, do you think the Silas return stuff belongs in development or casting? There will need to be a development section once his character returns and starts developing but the stuff there seems like casting. D4nnyw14 (talk) 17:44, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

I think it belongs in the development because casting is part of the initial creation - and aside from Rawle being spotted on set, the rest of the info will be how the character develops on his return.Rain the 1 18:13, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Leave it as it is for now, the casting stuff about his return could be moved into casting at a later date when there is development if it doesn't fit the section. D4nnyw14 (talk) 18:34, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

What did Mercy write on the pictures of Mitzeee that she stuck on the wall? Was it Slag or Slut? D4nnyw14 (talk) 18:51, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Shocked? D4nnyw14 (talk) 19:24, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

OMG I am! I couldn't believe it, when he was looking at her - I was like she can not be gone! And then I saw the DS article and she is. What the...!Rain the 1 19:27, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

I'm devastated, its the most shocking moment of a soap ever. I was still hoping that she was just unconscious until i saw the tweet from Karen Hassan. It doesn't make sense but Hollyoaks did well to keep that secret. D4nnyw14 (talk) 19:29, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

I've always said I hoped the show would never kill her off. And they did. It is a gobsmacker! But who has done it, I'm unsure. And at first I thought she had just gone of natrual causes due to all the stress she has endured.Rain the 1 19:54, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

If it turns out it was just stress then that would be a let down but funny. I hope it wasn't Mercy, it needs to be Silas for it to be worthwhile. Fancy helping revamp her page? I would do it by myself but i don't edit as much as i used to and i have other projects on the go that i need to finish. D4nnyw14 (talk) 20:02, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

I will do, but just got a few other things to get on with atm. I've wanted to do it for a while, so we can make it a priority. Will Savage may also need an article after next week... another secret they're keeping until transmission.Rain the 1 23:33, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

I can help out with the Foghorn if you want, i don't like him but the plot coming up sounds really interesting, i hope it leads to his exit. D4nnyw14 (talk) 08:47, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Also, Montana Manning said she has gone from HO already in tweet [10], should we add her to past? I was thinking she'd be killed by Silas, maybe its a red herring, should we wait for another source? D4nnyw14 (talk) 10:01, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Oh, thats the tweet used in the DS source, i think she has already left. D4nnyw14 (talk) 10:03, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Mayeb we should list her as past then. I do know she filmed more scenes with Texas before her exit was announced. Maybe they cut them. So Lynsey appears still in Monday's episode - that'll be hard because everyone is going to keep changing her last app date to today. And the date of death in her article - it was yesterday in HO universe, but Monday in the real world. Dilemma. lolRain the 1 18:14, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

I think she should be past. I'm sure that the day she died (today) was today in Hollyoaks universe, at the beginning the Brady bunch were standing around as if it was the morning. D4nnyw14 (talk) 18:40, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Well today, it is just that we watched today - yesterday - if you get what I mean. Argg.Rain the 1 18:46, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

I get you :P so you think people will put 28 June on her last appearance instead of 29 June? If they do then we can revert it and add a hidden message. D4nnyw14 (talk) 19:04, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Lynsey's birth has been added as 1986, any idea if this is true? D4nnyw14 (talk) 19:06, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

We will have to cite the interview and point out that she is going to be appearing still in the next few weeks. Did you read Karen's interview. She did decide to leave and they decided to move the storyline forward.Rain the 1 19:07, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

[cont] and Lynsey's DOB is unsourced, so it has to go. Then the reception you added is primary and is given too much weight. Because they are her cast mates, they are going to praise her. Shall I pick at it and revise what you added? It needs to be atleast two sentences long.Rain the 1 19:10, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Yep i've read it, i'm going to add the info in a minute, i realised after i'd changed her last appearance date that she was still going to appear after that, i think we should leave her as departing and remove her from past, just revert people or get it semi protected if IPs cause that much trouble. D4nnyw14 (talk) 19:12, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

I'll go over it in a minute and whittle it down, if its too long then you can undo my mess :P D4nnyw14 (talk) 19:13, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Nah not mess. & I have a good idea for the lies she told too. We can use the DS article to say Hassan pretended to be staying - and add a few tidbits from the What's on TV and OK! mag interviews she told the fibs too. :)Rain the 1 19:17, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Better now? Where are the interviews from the mags? If she said she was staying we can add that she pretended to be staying to make her exit a shock. D4nnyw14 (talk) 19:20, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Well [11] and OK! was a magazine interview that J sent me. I'll write some stuff out in a bit.Rain the 1 19:24, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, anything in particular you want to work on? Can you try and cut the sls down abit more? I always aim to try to get it down to a page and a half maximum. D4nnyw14 (talk) 19:31, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

I shall do that first in a bit, just doing something, but I'll deffo do it.Rain the 1 19:41, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

I've started adding her exit info, i think we could easily have a section on her friendships with Cheryl and Mercy (together) and maybe add her relationship with Riley and Gilly in one section, and Mal if there is any info. D4nnyw14 (talk) 19:46, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Another question, do you think the info on suspects is important enough atm to add to the character articles (i've added a brief line to Silas' article) and apart from Mercy none of the other suspects actually have their own pages, just list sections. D4nnyw14 (talk) 21:54, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

I don't bother with adding info to list characters after a certain point - because their sections look overly long. I want Ally, Joel and Phoebe to be splitt off soon. But you can add it to all of them - why not. I'm just lazy. :)Rain the 1 22:18, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Doing the SL's right now.Rain the 1 22:22, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

I'd be interested in working on Phoebe, not really bothered about the other two, they haven't done anything to make me care about them. I'll add the details on them becoming a suspect to the list entries. D4nnyw14 (talk) 22:49, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

E4 is coining it 'who killed Lynsey', they've even made a poster thingy with the words and stylised Y as a sort of question mark. [12] D4nnyw14 (talk) 23:53, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Self coined I spose - it would be amazing if you can get that Y to work too! OMG - Silas just warned me off. That has to be the best interactive game ever! haaaRain the 1 00:11, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

The interactive game is great, first proper Silas scenes in ages and Rawle is still amazing. What do you mean about the Y? D4nnyw14 (talk) 00:18, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

I just meant if we could have the question mark y in the heading. I wonder if Texas is next.Rain the 1 00:35, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Oh, i get you :P. I think Texas will get killed by Silas, not by Lynsey's killer whoever it is. I can't decide whether i care if Texas dies, i used to hate her but i've started to warm to her, it'd make sense for her to die at Silas' hands. I love Mercy but i'm starting to wonder where she can go now, i hate to have to say this but i think if she is killed off then it wouldn't be too bad a thing. I have no idea who killed Lynsey though, I just hope its not Sampson, that would ruin the whole plot considering if he did kill her he has been in about four episodes and had no interaction with a much loved character who he then killed, it makes no sense for him to be a suspect. D4nnyw14 (talk) 00:46, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Always shipped Texas - and he non extistent relationship with Jodie. :( I've cut some of the opinions from hassan's fellow cast members from the reception section - Even if she wasn't a fab actress, they would say she was because they are bound to be bias. Plagiarism is also a hot topic on here too, so we need to limit the amount of quotes taken from each source. We don't want to use them all up on the reception section - cus DS have quite a few useful ones in ther interviews which would be used better.Rain the 1 01:01, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

That's fine, i think i just tried to get everyones names in, i should have jut put was praised by blah blah blah and blah. I didn't like Texas with Jodie, it seemed odd and came out of no where. I don't see how Silas is even a suspect, he is still in the mental asylum i thought he might have escaped and the police could have 'forgot' to notify anyone but in the vids he is there still. D4nnyw14 (talk) 01:11, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Any idea when Jodie last appeared? D4nnyw14 (talk) 13:40, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Can you remember seeing her after Joel's party with Theresa as the podium dancers? It could be then.Rain the 1 14:46, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

I think you're right, that was her last appearance, as far as i remember anyway. D4nnyw14 (talk) 14:53, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Do you still have the articles you scanned for AB about Lynsey on your computer? Or do these sources belong to AB? D4nnyw14 (talk) 13:21, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

I do yes - but back then I did not name them individually so you will have to look through the Silas article and match the refs up to the titles on the articles. Mailing them you now.Rain the 1 13:51, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Thankyou, shouldn't be too difficult. D4nnyw14 (talk) 14:02, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

How should we incorporate the stuff about Hassan wanting to stay on the show? Just add a line saying that Hassan had previously stated her intention to the serial to make her exit a surprise? D4nnyw14 (talk) 17:27, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Was this [13] the interview from OK or is that something completely different? D4nnyw14 (talk) 17:30, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

I've sent you the OK interview.Rain the 1 18:53, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Something like "Hassan had to pretend in interviews blah blah - for instance she previously told OK! blah blah and also told Whats on Tv blah blah blah".Rain the 1 18:55, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Have you got the quote from OK!? D4nnyw14 (talk) 19:09, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes and so have you. lolRain the 1 19:13, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

In that interview from OK! that DS posted she didn't mention staying on. D4nnyw14 (talk) 19:19, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

I sent you OK! interview earlier - You must have missed the message.Rain the 1 19:26, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Ooops, thanks, got it now, i'd only opened the first message :P D4nnyw14 (talk) 19:29, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Some of the articles haven't been used in the Silas article so i can't match them up, did you send them all to AB? Would they be on his talk page history somewhere? D4nnyw14 (talk) 21:58, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Just tell me the titles and I shall see if I can solve them. I really don't want to go searching through the mags, I've got so many! lolRain the 1 22:05, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

"Lynsey Nolan's fight to bring a serial killer to justice has put Karen Hassan at the heart of Hollyoaks' most dramatic plot. Here, she tells us of her secret crush - and why sinister Silas makes her giggle in real life...", "Silas stalks Lynsey!" and "which cat loses all nine lives?!" Thanks D4nnyw14 (talk) 22:26, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

So basically there is a big chunk of development missing from Silas' article. The only one I hav e found so far is "Soaplife, IPC Media, 31 October - 11 November 2011, Issue 262, (Exclusive! Which cat loses all nine lives?! pages 6&7)" - the one with the really long title is "Inside Soap, Hearst Magazines UK, Issue 44, 5-11 November 2011 (Karen Hassan is at your mercy! pages 50&51)"Rain the 1 22:56, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

The Silas stalks Lynsey is from IS and is page 24, its about him writing stuff on her mirror which is from late august 2011, thanks for the other info. I'll add the stuff to Silas' article soon, there are a few other things i want to clear up in it too. Sorry that we were supposed to be working on Lynsey together and i just powered through it without you. D4nnyw14 (talk) 15:07, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you AGAIN, do you know if you still have this interview: Moon, Katy (20–26 August 2011). "Lynsey flees in terror!". Inside Soap (Hearst Magazines UK) (33): 18, that was used on Silas' article, if its not on your computer i could just scavenge bits from Silas' article. D4nnyw14 (talk) 18:49, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

I don't mind - it gave me a chance to get onto other things. I looked and I do not have it on the comp anymore. It'll turn up in the future i'm sure.Rain the 1 19:16, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

That's fine, if it doesn't turn up i can just scavenge bits from Silas' article. D4nnyw14 (talk) 19:25, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Do you think the noms for Halloween/fright night episode is important to Lynsey, she was a huge player in the episode although it isn't stated as involving her in the noms? D4nnyw14 (talk) 20:46, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Oh, and i've just found the Lynsey flees in terror! article on my laptop, i know you said you hate people downloading them who you didn't mean them for but apart from this i download a few other Silas articles at the time, i thought i had them stowed away somewhere but i didn't realise one of them was that one. D4nnyw14 (talk) 20:50, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

The cheek of this, "However, according to wikipedia, she is quoted as revealing her murder to be…..Mercedes!!!!!!!!!! ‘Hassan revealed that she is aware of the identity of Lynsey’s killer and it was Mercedes…’" [14], it was there for about 20 mins and was added by an IP, seems unlikely they'd just stumble upon it in that short space and write a story about it. *cough*desperate for a story*cough* D4nnyw14 (talk) 22:06, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

That is why we do not use them as a source, very poorly run website. I'd certainly include the fright night nom because Lynsey was central to it. Glad you found it, I don't mind you doing it obvs. I just thought people taking them for their fansites would steal views from on the articles here.Rain the 1 02:18, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

I love that they blamed us for making up the info, i only downloaded like two files aswell. Have you heard the latest Silas spoilers? I agree with you now, Texas needs to live, seems like she is going to take over Lynsey and be proactive in finding the killer and helping out. D4nnyw14 (talk) 14:04, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Do you have any idea what this source is trying to say [15], i'm talking about the "HOLLYOAKS LYNSEY should leave well alone is badly hurt careless driving. with Silas." it doesn't make sense but i wanted to use the bit about Lynsey not realising that its dangerous, can you work out what they are saying? D4nnyw14 (talk) 22:04, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

It is a mistake I think. Above it mentions Aaron from Emmerdale's car accident. I think it meant to say "Lynsey should leave well alone with Silas." - sometimes when the free library carry articles over from the original source format errors happen.Rain the 1 22:10, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the translation :P, do you think with some more work Lynsey could make it to GA? I think the Silas section needs choppig down. D4nnyw14 (talk) 22:17, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

You could just use seperate headings - fright night could fit a new one. I think with a bit more work it'll be perfect for GA. Those storylines need another going through.Rain the 1 22:54, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

I'll use a separate heading for the conclusion of the storyline, i'll try cutting the sls down again thanks. D4nnyw14 (talk) 19:17, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

I've nominated Lynsey for GA, do you think there is anything that could be immediately fixed before the GA review? I'm not sure if the lead is too detailed. D4nnyw14 (talk) 15:10, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Don't know if it is written down in any guideline but someone once reccomended that the lead be 3 paragraphs. Just my usual pick at the images being to large. I don't think Metcalfe's is needed either - sometimes you can have too much of a good thing and the section isn't very big. Cut the caption down in Hassan's image too. I is great to see how the article expanded like this in just one week. :)Rain the 1 15:34, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks i'll fix them, i only added the images to try to stop it looking bland, we might need to add Metcalfe's back if shes the killer. I'll merge the lead into 2 paragraphs. What about the characterisation quote from E4, can that be cut down more, i can't think how without it becoming babble. Because its been expanded so quickly there'll probably be loads of mistakes and useless info about. D4nnyw14 (talk) 15:21, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

I find it increasingly hard to use those quotes form the profiles because the web team write like their audience watch ceebeebies. Most of the quote isn't characterisation and just a run through of her storylines - As short as I'd go is something like..

"Don't let Lynsey's delicate exterior fool you: inside was the heart and courage of a lion! She was soon required to prove she had backbone when she was entangled in a variety of crisis situations [... and] the real test of her character came in the form of something - or rather someone - far more sinister [... when] she was attacked in her home by [...] Silas Blissett. So began Lynsey's quest to prove he was a serial killer, [... and since then] she has since busied herself with her usual superhero antics."Rain the 1 15:34, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

I liked it better when it was just a paragraph on the actual character not on what they had for breakfast and which bus they took. I'll cut it down to something like that. D4nnyw14 (talk) 15:43, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

You know the line "Lynsey has also been described as "flirty"[10], "determined"[11], "brave"[11], "plucky"[11][12], "gorgeous"[12] and a "beauty"[13] by various media sources." - You could either stack those sources at the end of the sentence - or do something similar to what was done on Poppy Meadow's ref number 22.Rain the 1 17:39, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

I think the way it does on Poppy's would be hard to do as those sources aren't used more than once, but ref [11] on Lnysey's is used for characterisation and for the Silas stuff and reception. Maybe stacking would work but then it'd become unclear who said what and which source corresponds where. I've done the "[character] described as [generic words] by media" for Mercy and Darren too, it just stops us having to say each individual media outlet even if its not important. D4nnyw14 (talk) 17:58, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

I just found/remembered this, do you think we'll ever bother finishing :P? D4nnyw14 (talk) 23:34, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

How strange, I also remembered that earlier and did wonder if we should make a start. Then I realised I need to finish all the other sandboxes off too. What to do. We need more helpers! Imagine how good it would be if others joined in and took a section each.Rain the 1 23:37, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Theres too much to be done! Who could we ask that might actually want to do it? We asked AB IIRC before he left. Joel looks really good atm too. D4nnyw14 (talk) 23:40, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

I know - if you are reading this, take pity on us and offer to chip in. =]] Well thanks, I'll deffo finish that one soon. I need to get more out my userspace. You know Tony btw, Inside Soap was published by "Attic Futura (UK) Ltd" until after 2002 I think, deffo in 2001 though.Rain the 1 00:02, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Ooh thanks, i'll change the refs. Do you think this could be used for reception, there are only about 9 HO characters listed, and no doubt Sharon or Pat will win. D4nnyw14 (talk) 10:31, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Oh it sure can. I voted for Steph. lolRain the 1 11:11, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

I'll add it to all the Hollyoaks' nominees pages in a minute, i voted Tony but was tempted by Steph. D4nnyw14 (talk) 11:16, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Do you think India should be present regular or recurring, she isn't really a regular at the moment, are we even sure she'll appear again? D4nnyw14 (talk) 21:58, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Goes by entire duration - she is a series regular making a guest app - we have no sources to indicate she will appear again. So move her to past etc - it can be easily fixed if the situation changes again.Rain the 1 22:08, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Fair enough, i think we should leave her until its been a week, if she doesn't appear again by next tuesday then we can move her to past again. D4nnyw14 (talk) 22:16, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

And the bottom line is we would need a source to prove that Kington signed a guest contract - because we had one for her regular contract.Rain the 1 22:19, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Yep, just leave it like that. Are you still planning to give a hand with Mercy? D4nnyw14 (talk) 22:26, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Yeah sure - I need to scan you something from Inside Soap to about Darren.Rain the 1 22:40, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Hey, i missed the reply about the Darren scan, whenever you get chance that'll be great. Out of the current cast, which characters do you think need improving or their own article? Esther has been their over 18 months but she doesn't seem to have done much, same with Dodger, he's been at HO for a while but doesn't seem to have done much, i did start a sandbox ages ago for Dodger. I think Ash and Phoebe need their own articles soon, they should have enough notability, especially with Ash's huge meningitis storyline. A few others like Will, Callum and Tilly might be notable but i'd have to check for sources first. Are we going to redirect Finn? He has nine sources, one is just an episode ref, and he hasn't appeared for like 8 months. D4nnyw14 (talk) 16:56, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Oh, and is Doc Browning a regular? He has been appearing a lot more, and he has moved into the village, i'm not sure if he is a regular, i hope so though, he's a great addition. D4nnyw14 (talk) 17:02, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Dodger is as ready as its going to be for now, i'm not sure if it's worth splitting him off atm, maybe we should wait for more sources to become available. D4nnyw14 (talk) 19:09, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

If you want to split it - mays well do it. It is up to you. Either way I'll try and add to it.Rain the 1 19:18, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, i'll split it and try to add to it, there should be more on the Dexie triangle. D4nnyw14 (talk) 19:21, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Sure thing.Rain the 1 19:25, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Oh dear. Before you move the article into any more realms (You created a Wikipedia version, and a brand new user name Dodger Savage) - You'll need to ask an admin to move it because of the redirect in place. They'll need to delete the other two creations too. You will also need an admin to take the speedy deletion request of seeings as it isn't a new redirect.. I'll request it if you like?Rain the 1 19:29, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

I know, i've screwed it up, big time :P i've requested the wikipedia version be deleted as its a redirect, i've requested the redirect be deleted so i can move the User version over then i'll have the User version deleted. D4nnyw14 (talk) 19:32, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Ahh, ok, do you want to sort it? I'm making it worse. D4nnyw14 (talk) 19:33, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

I think it may be for the best. :PRain the 1 19:34, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, i thought that i was supposed to move it to wikipedia and then i realised i'd mismoved it so i tried to move it back to my userspace, it wasn't just random and hoping for the best :P D4nnyw14 (talk) 19:36, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

I was waiting for "File:Dodger Savage" - "Book:Dodger Savage" - "Help:Dodger Savage" ... lolRain the 1 19:38, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Hahah, nice to know you were at least watching me as i failed, thankfully you intervened before i broke the internet. D4nnyw14 (talk) 19:41, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

I've put in a request, lets see what happens.Rain the 1 19:50, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, i overcomplicated everything and made loads of work for someone. D4nnyw14 (talk) 19:54, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Dodger has been deleted, probably my fault for nominating it for deletion, and the history is gone with it. I'll just move User:Dodger Savage to Dodger Savage then nominate the user page for deletion. D4nnyw14 (talk) 21:00, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

I'd wait because the Admin I asked deleted it. Maybe he will complete my request later?Rain the 1 21:03, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

You already did it. I'll just go an explain again.Rain the 1 21:05, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Nah that works out fine now then with the other admin removing the redirects. Finally. :)Rain the 1 21:09, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Ooops, i didn't realise you had got a response, sorry. Thanks for the help. I'm now struggling to find a pic of Dodger with his top on. D4nnyw14 (talk) 21:26, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi, is this source reliable, i wanted to use the bit about Ash for her article but it would be great for Lacey's list entry too. D4nnyw14 (talk) 00:09, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

It is a blog on wordpress, so certainly not. SorryRain the 1 00:19, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Ahh well. D4nnyw14 (talk) 00:26, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Good for trying though. I've got a some something, somewhere for Ash - I think it is a TVTimes interview and Soaplife feature.Rain the 1 00:36, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Oohh, thanks, i'm literally scraping the barrel now :P what is the twitter soap awards, are they notable or just made up by fans, like are they run by someone? D4nnyw14 (talk) 00:43, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Would this be reliable, it seems to be run by her agent. D4nnyw14 (talk) 19:21, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Official websites are usually fine.Rain the 1 19:24, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, i was surprised by how much she has actually been in. D4nnyw14 (talk) 19:35, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Would you say this is characterisation or reception, could it even be reception when its from the HO website? Sorry that i pester you every five minutes :P D4nnyw14 (talk) 00:18, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

It is a primary - selfserving source - so you can't use it for reception because they are bias but you can take parts of it for characterisation.Rain the 1 00:22, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, it does seem like it would be perfect for reception if it weren't E4's site, that's why i was unsure. D4nnyw14 (talk) 00:24, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Your Ds inbox is full, can't message you. D4nnyw14 (talk) 22:33, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Hey, i added the cast members from Hollyoaks to appear in Later to the Later page but now it looks messy, do we really need them there? Other characters like Jamil, Mike and Charlotte who appeared for like one or two episodes in Later haven't been added too, not sure if they would probably need adding even though they only had a minor role. D4nnyw14 (talk) 20:12, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

It looks ridiculous doesn't it. I'm not sure a separate casting section is needed? Small run downs of cast included with big roles mentioned in sources - maybe focus on cast brought in that aren't just from the main series - cast specially for the show. Stick to anything about the franchise as a whole - and anything related exclusively to any one series to the separate article. I've always thought those articles were such a mess - but never knew what to do with them.Rain the 1 20:23, 7 August 2012 (UTC

I'll sort it out, i'll leave the casting section for now but just with guest characters in it. I don't really know what i'm doing that's why i asked you :P i've never worked on any TV show articles really so i'm pretty much hopeless. I think it probably needs a reception section, other than that i'm clueless. D4nnyw14 (talk) 20:59, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Hey, i created a sandbox article on Dr B but i don't think it should be split off, maybe just move all the stuff in to the 2012 list, there is like nothing from Joe Thompson and the development sections are pretty bare too, what do you think? D4nnyw14 (talk) 13:29, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Frank Morgan (Home and Away)

After thoroughly reviewing this article, I have concluded that it meets the good article criteria, so I passed it. Congratulations and keep up the good work! Rp0211 ^(talk2me) 20:41, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Celia Stewart returning?

Just to let you know about the source you added about Celia Stewart supposedly returning to Home and Away: A few hours after someone stumbled across that and the internet went crazy, the page was edited to remove the reference to her returning in 2012. So, it's currently up in the air as to whether it was inaccurate and someone changed it when they realised or whether the powers that be didn't want it leaked too soon and asked them to take it down. Either way, the source doesn't contain the information anymore. Skteosk (talk) 07:40, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

I know - at the time of addition though it was present - but yesterday the information was removed from the source. I also believe that H&A requested that her agent remove the information to keep a lid on her return.Rain the 1 07:55, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Why have you added Celia to the retunring characters. She is not returning. It hasn't been annonced she is coming back, so it she needs removeing from returning characters. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.86.17.34 (talk) 09:02, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

It does not need removing at all. Her management announced it, we cited the source, they changed it after. Please do not do your usual, removing information because of your own POV.Rain the 1 16:00, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Sharon Newman

Hello there, Raintheone, do you remember me? :) You are the one that helped me when i made this account, anyway I need your advice. I nominated Sharon Newman for GA, i knew it wouldn't pass but i just want someone to point out what faults the article has so many it could be a GA in the future after everything could be fixed up;-) However I think i did the wrong thing when i nominated it, cause I was just wondering if i could've just asked you lol? Could you check out the article and tell me (briefly) what needs to be done? :D It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much!!:) −SoapJar 01:39, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Sorry I'f i'm asking much, it's a dream of mine to have a GA :D −SoapJar 02:03, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Well I have not carried out a GA review before - but here are a few suggestions that may help:

• See if you can make the SL section shorter - in my experience reviewers are more impressed by concise plot sections
• I would rename recognition in the reception section 'Accolades'
• Check the article for over link - I noticed Phyllis is actually linked three times, Nick is linked three times, Brad Carlton is linked four times etc.
• Make sure you are consistent with including actor name after mentioning the character for the first time - see the storyline section
• In in the caption supporting Jae Jones' quote, include which storyline she is referring to
• In the reception section you have criticism of the character and awards - but no positive analysis
• Checklinks reveals that you have some link rot - some of the sources you included are no longer available. That would need addressing.Rain the 1 19:38, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Okay, thanks so much that's very helpful :D —SoapJar 02:58, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you again, i was just wondering, if there was something sourced by a Newspaper which had a link, can i just remove the link and leave the citation? —SoapJar 06:59, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

If the link is dead - you can leave it there because it was correct at the time of addition. But have you checked to see if it is still online anywhere? Which link is it?Rain the 1 15:17, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Sophie Wong

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Marogt Robbie

That edit warning you put on my talk page should be reverted, I did provide a source for the information I put in, while you clearly stated its "unsourced" Since when has IMDb not a reliable source? It is a database..... Please explain. B.Davis2003 (talk) 00:52, 20 July 2012 (UTC) I'll reply to you on your talk page.Rain the 1 00:55, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Ryan Lee

We seem to be entering an edit war on this subject which I suspect neither of us want, although we rarely seem to come to an agreement when we start these dialogues. Let's have a go, though. You seem to have decided Ryan was a regular based on an old annual you bought. I seem to remember a year or two ago you insisted Penn Graham was a regular because it said so on the official site, when he was clearly a short term villain who'd leave as soon as his storyline was over and that's exactly what happened. What happened with Ryan was: He came in in 1991, stayed for less than a month, then left. He came back early the next year, stayed for five months, his longest stint, then left again. Then he came back for a six week stint at the end of the year, after which he hasn't been seen. He was basically just someone who was there to stir up trouble between Nick and Roo. Now, maybe he did sign a two year contract. Maybe plans changed (there are all sorts of rumours about the initial plans for his last stint), maybe, as the quotes you've found suggest, reading between the lines, he was unhappy with the way the character was developing and quit. But he was listed as a guest character for the whole of his time on the show. I can't prove it because I don't have a copy of the episodes. I looked around briefly online and found this from a defunct fansite which gives an interesting take on things. I'm just worried that if you add Ryan on it'll set a dangerous precedent. When I first found that list, people were adding on all sorts of characters who weren't regulars (Angie Russell, Dom Moran, Sam Holden, Melody Jones, Cam Reynolds) and Ryan doesn't qualify any more than them, whatever your source says. I took it upon myself to police the list and make sure it stayed confined to those who were identified as regulars in the opening titles or closing credits and signing a contract doesn't qualify: The guy that plays Danny Braxton has signed a six month contract but that doesn't make him a regular. I hope you don't find this condescending and I hope you understand my viewpoint. Skteosk (talk) 08:14, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Well that fansite says McDougall signed for six months - but the Official Home and Away annual also states that casting directors scouted him and he was offered a two year contract. Not featuring in the opening credits doesn't really matter - we do not know the real reason behind that. I wouldn't worry about Melody, Sam etc - we can prove they were not regular characters. If there is a source to suggest otherwise (not a fansite obvs) then they cannot be added on the basis of someone's opinion. I have left Josh out because the evidence isn't as strong as for Ryan - because they did not comment on Mitsak's contract.. but I'm going to be digging for info on him because it seems interesting.Rain the 1 12:27, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

To be honest, I think the opening credits are the best judge of who the production team at the time considered to be regulars and who they didn't. They're more closely involved with the show than the people who write the annuals. Even if you can come up with an official source who considered Ryan a regular, you can't ask each and every production bod on the show who they classed as a regulat and who they didn't. I seem to recall publicity material when Melody came back stated she was now a "permanent" character but, like Ryan, she was gone in a few months. The early years are littered with characters like Andrew Foley and Stacey Macklin who were a permanent presence on the show for a long time (and had more storylines and more background than Ryan) but weren't classed as regulars. I think you need a hard and fast rule about what makes someone a regular and to stick to it. Not an expert on 1991, I'm watching it for the first time with the current 7Two repeats, but as far as I know Josh was a short-term villain who had a couple of brief stints and I don't think there's any way he could be considered a regular. Skteosk (talk) 19:06, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

But the annuals are authorised and approved by Home and Away - Wouldn't they request the information to be changed if it was inaccurate? Seven Network and Home and Away own the rights to this annual. It doesn't matter now though obviously the decision lies with you ;). I'm more interested in expanding the articles atm.Rain the 1 19:36, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

As far as I can see, Rain has provided a reliable source stating Ryan was regular, but there hasn't been one confirming he was a recurring character yet. I'll check the two Inside Soap interviews with the actor and see if anything is mentioned. - JuneGloom Talk 20:03, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Coronation Street Character Names

Sorry, I was totally unaware that it had to be approved first. It does seem ludicrous that some people would assume Rita Tanner's WP:COMMONNAME to be 'Rita Sullivan' when she's arguably better known as 'Rita Fairclough'. If I had suggested changing the articles to the iconic names they had in the '70s then you would think it was ludicrous, just as I personally believe keeping the old names is. Considering ITV and the media are only using the names that appear in the official end credits, it is odd that the old names are being retained particularly when a redirect to the article with the current name can be provided for those searching under the old name. I've started a discussion on the talk page of the Coronation Street Project page, which I assume is the right area for this?

Thanks for your assistance and support. --ScouseScholar (talk) 14:12, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

John Paul McQueen and Craig Dean

Hey, Raintheone. In October 2011, you rated this article Start-class. But carefully assessing it, isn't it more of a B-class article? It does need a little tightening and can assuredly be expanded further, real-world content-wise, than what was possible at the time I significantly fixed it up in 2008, but I'm not sure that I'd call its current state Start-class. Maybe that's because I view "Start-class," with regard to such articles or individual character articles, as representing articles that are only plot -- as in they don't have sections on creation, casting, writing, or reception. Or articles that don't have enough information on that. Flyer22 (talk) 20:41, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Well I do believe more information could be added. I think a lot of weight was given to certain sources which contribute to much of the articles content. Some parts need personalising such as who they spoke to at The Sun, Digital Spy and AfterElton. The actors didn't pick up a copy of The Sun or log onto the websites and start talking. The plot section is too long. Ref's could do with a tidy. Image has a poor rationale. Lead section is a little thin and doesn't fully reflect the article. There is a redundant header in the "Background" section titled "Writing and portrayals". Actor names are not included for anyone other than JP & Craig. I just did not believe it was B class sorry. B class is an article with more than this article cureently offers, and I don't beleive it would fare well at GAN which would be the next step. Maybe others would disagree with me though.Rain the 1 20:57, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I agree with most of your assessment. I'm not sure how the "Writing and portrayals" heading is redundant, though, I must state. Also, what do you mean by "Actor names are not included for anyone other than JP & Craig."? I know that the article isn't GA material, and keep in mind that I significantly fixed it up back in 2008, when I was still a fairly new Wikipedia editor. My editing has improved a lot since then. But I just can't see it as Start-class. Like I stated, that likely has to do with Start-class usually representing such character/couple articles that don't have any or very little real-world material. But I'm not pressing for a rating change. I was only interested in why you gave it the rating you did. Thanks for the honest reply. Flyer22 (talk) 21:43, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Joel Dexter

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Reply

See: User talk:AnemoneProjectors#Image Revert?. — M.Mario (T/C) 10:40, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Supercouples

Hey this is zara, i recently read your message about my editing of the fictional supercouples page. I'm new to this so i dunno what i'm doing but i believe that Buffy and Spike belong on the list of fictional supercouples as they were mentioned on the main page defining what supercouples were but were not put on the actual list which i confused me, sorry for any mistakes i may have made but i felt they deserved a place in the list as they were are still remain a popular tv couple thanks!!!!(Zara1993 (talk) 18:42, 9 August 2012 (UTC))

Hey there, thanks for your reply and i have researched supercouples on the internet and have found a page about Buffy and Spike being a supercouple, this is it: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SuperCouple. I dunno whether i should edit the list cause the article may not be correct, any advice i would be very grateful for, thanks!(Zara1993 (talk) 19:39, 9 August 2012 (UTC))

Supercouples

Hey i have been researching like hell for the past hour and have found two websites with good info on buffy and spike and i dunno whether they are legitimate websites, your feedback will be grateful and are always helpful, here's the websites: http://www.hypable.com/2012/04/25/top-10-tv-couples/ http://www.lovetripper.com/romance/2009/05/buffy-vampire-slayer-buffy-and-spike-6.html thanks again, (Zara1993 (talk) 17:28, 10 August 2012 (UTC))

Hollyoaks Revision

I was just giving an update on his storyline not gossiping just to clarifyQueenAlexandria

Okay

Okay, I understand your point of view and when I say I wanted a fresh start I mean't from the rubbish work I had completed under that account, I've been practising a lot offline and trying to improve my editing skills. I of course admire yourself, D4nnyw14, JuneGloom07, GSorby as well as many other editors of UK soap opera Wikipedia articles and your contribution and hard work. I am sorry if I ignored your messages, maybe I just got carried away with all of the tasks I was trying to undertake at once, which was ultimately my downfall. I am very sorry and if you no longer want me to edit Hollyoaks articles or anything other soap-related articles that is fine, I do not mind stepping down if you think I am causing trouble among yourself and other editors.--Trovata (talk) 19:17, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Sarah Thompson (Home and Away)

Hi Raintheone, regarding your revert of User:Slingkey on Sarah Thompson (Home and Away), I've suggested that you both discuss it. Slingkey asked for help on IRC and I'm guessing that you know more about it than I do, so I suggested that they start a conversation on the article's talk page and you would be able to help them. Regards, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 09:26, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Sarah Thompson

This article has a sensational 'gossipy' nature. It also stretches selected excerpts from quotes and it also includes speculation and assumptions. Overall the tone of the article is negative toward the actresses. Could you explain your reason for doing this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Slingkey (talk • contribs) 09:41, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

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EastEnders BMD

If we're not including off-screen events, then surely Dennis Rickman Jr., Mark Jr etc. shouldn't be included either? Alex250P (talk) 23:01, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

archiving refs

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I want Sharon Watts' refs archived. What's the best and quickest way to do this? I know you do it a lot with your articles so thought you could direct me :) GunGagdin^Moan 14:38, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

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Talk:List_of_General_Hospital_cast_members#Diane

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You haven't read her talk page recently, have you? RAP (talk) 01:05 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Ehh? I read it when I replied to the discussion earlier.Rain the 1 01:21, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Cast list sourcing

Hi Rain, thanks for your input on the GH cast page. I was wondering if you could help explain which sources are/aren't needed on cast pages. I poked around some of the UK soap lists and they seem to only have them on the upcoming changes, which has also been suggested on the GH page. But I want to be sure before removing all of them... thanks! Kelly Marie 0812 (talk) 02:07, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi again - I've been looking through some of the MOS and discussion pages and found this link on bibliography entries that states in the sourcing section that a citation isn't needed if the entry has a wikilink to an article that can provide verifiability. Would you agree? Thanks again. Kelly Marie 0812 (talk) 02:41, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

I have replied to your concerns. Thank you.Rain the 1 22:50, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your help! Kelly Marie 0812 (talk) 01:47, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

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Todd Manning article yet again

Hey, Raintheone. I need an extra pair of experienced, non-fancruft eyes on this article again (as in other than mine). Mind being those pair of eyes? One of the editors, one of the few who knows what shouldn't be in the article, quit earlier this month. The article recently underwent extensive vandalism,[16][17][18] and there is a newly registered editor -- Rahdrecus90 -- who helped revert a lot of the recent vandalism...but no doubt has a lot to learn about how things work here. He or she has already frustrated a different editor with an infobox matter at a different article. I left a Welcome template on Rahdrecus90's talk page, which, of course among other things, briefly explains that he or she should visit Wikipedia:WikiProject Soap Operas to learn more about contributing to soap opera articles. Flyer22 (talk) 11:43, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

I shall keep an eye on the article. I did anyway, it is just that I have been rather inactive lately. It is sad to hear that MF decided to part ways with Wikipedia.Rain the 1 13:02, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. I wish that the role of Todd Manning had ended with One Life to Live. Not only because I don't watch General Hospital often, not even now that Todd's on that show, but also because there is no telling how the character may change on that show...and fancruft editors are being drawn to the Todd Manning article more than they would if this character was not a part of current storylines. And like I told Musicfreak7676 on his talk page, I certainly understand why he left. This site can be beyond frustrating. Not to mention, that it can take up so much of one's time. Flyer22 (talk) 21:45, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Hollyoaks

Hey, the Jakob Chialton thing comes from this tweet by the babies family, we know the baby is called Jakob from a Jennifer Metcalfe interview on DS and she retweeted that image, and there pics of Jakob with Metcalfe so the account is real and definitely Jakob's family, could we use that as a source for his name or would it have to be something concrete? D4nnyw14 (talk) 19:57, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Come on - we only deal in concrete here. Maybe it is real. Maybe someone found pictures and made the whole thing up. His real name could have been Bill.Rain the 1 20:58, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

We know his name is Jakob from a DS article, Metcalfe said so. The account is real too, i'm 100% sure, it is followed by Metcalfe, Merna, Barber-Lane and Norbury whose accounts e4 link to, so we know they are real too. I'd be pretty worried for the babies safety if someone could find that many personal images online. If you are that bothered about adding the second name then leave it, but we pretty much know that is Jakob's surname. D4nnyw14 (talk) 21:40, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

It is not that I'm not bothered. I'm just following the consensus that Twitter is unreliable and should only be considered via discussion if it has a nice blue tick next to the name.Rain the 1 21:57, 2 October:2012 (UTC)

It is only a child actor's surname so i doesn't matter that much, i will just leave it if there is a consensus about using twitter. D4nnyw14 (talk) 22:03, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Seems Ally Gordon is leaving, but we have no official confirmation, is the daily mail reliable enough when they get names wrong? D4nnyw14 (talk) 23:35, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

I'd say that is a good enough source. You should add it I think. I wonder when Wallis Day's first scenes will air?Rain the 1 00:16, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

I will add it. I have no idea, i don't know if she is still a Morrison or if she is Holly Cunningham or someone completely new, i thought she might been written out before she had even joined but it seems like she has joined going from the pics. D4nnyw14 (talk) 00:22, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

She is certainly somebody because she was out with the cast last month and last week and the Daily Mail reported on her then as being a cast member.Rain the 1 00:27, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

I know, but before i saw the article i began to think she had been completely forgotten about and wasn't going to join. I'm starting to worry Tony will be killed off in the crash too, the ammount of posts on DS who think he will be is worrying. D4nnyw14 (talk) 00:30, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Hey! Do you think the Enjoy The Ride draft is ready to be moved in to the main space? I think it's complete, it might be a bit repetitive at times though. D4nnyw14 (talk) 19:45, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Small question, not really important, but on the rating scales for the HO wikiproject how should we class Top importance and High importance? Surely Hollyoaks Later would be top importance and maybe other spinoff pages. In the rating scale, which i think i copied over from EastEnders it says characters who are significant and have appeared for over 10 years as High importance, but characters like Jacqui, Mercy, Myra, Nancy, Rhys and Amy who appeared for about seven years and had big storylines should be there too. What about the class of articles too, surely HO wikiproject has more than 2 B class articles. D4nnyw14 (talk) 21:01, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Could be Tony, Steph, Darren, Jack, Frankie, Mandy, Cindy are high because they are long term. Luke, Claire, Hannah, Justin, John Paul and Craig all won awards so maybe those. Hollyoaks article and their spin-offs. Low could be newer characters. All a matter of opinion though.Rain the 1 22:49, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

I will update some of those later, agree with those, it is mostly those sort of characters who are considered iconic, Brendan too. I will try to change some of the classes too, maybe Tony, Mitzeee, Nancy, Esther, the sort of pages with quite a few refs and research in to them. D4nnyw14 (talk) 23:02, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Small question, i have little snippets of info to add to Mercy's article, would i need a new section for the kidnap, breakdown sl? The "Lynsey Nolan's murder and relationship with Doctor Browning" title seems too long too, can you think of anyway to shorten it, it is stretching the box. D4nnyw14 (talk) 20:57, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

On another note, this source says Emmett Scanlan is leaving, although then Scanlan himself denies it, they still write it as fact, what should we do about it, just ignore it? D4nnyw14 (talk) 21:04, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Ooops, i'm sure Phil Marquess couldn't do a worse job than Paul Marquess anyway. You planning on working on the draft or just looking? I started it a while back but got distracted by Mandy, and then by Lynsey's GA review (well quick fail). D4nnyw14 (talk) 21:23, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Happy Christmas to you too! Hope you had a good time! D4nnyw14 (talk) 17:13, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

I don't know if we should use the cameo section tbh, in 2012 and other years there have been loads of other cameos from celebs and they weren't under a separate header, maybe the lead should include that some characters aren't fictional and just people playing themselves. I should be more careful creating articles too, i didn't realise anybody was working on it so just quickly knocked one up so we had it ready and so the guests could be kept up to date. D4nnyw14 (talk) 19:44, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Argh! I can't find cast listings on TV Guide, could you point me in the right direction? I haven't got time to rewatch every ep and try to find the 'other' characters, which i would have to do if TV Guide doesn't have cast listings. D4nnyw14 (talk) 00:04, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Yeah sure - it is located here. =]Rain the 1 00:09, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, but that made it even more confusing, the list isn't sorted by date or anything and the actors pages have no corresponding dates with them. RadioTimes is no help either, they list like six actors for one episode. D4nnyw14 (talk) 00:25, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

I will try and watch some end credits and figure out who is who. I do not think there have been that many anyway.Rain the 1 00:31, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

It's a pain, i should have kept an eye on things, it's myu fault. If you do some of them i will do the rest tomorrow. D4nnyw14 (talk) 00:35, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Kinda busy right now with an article. But I will try and look tomoz. It is no ones fault. We are not obliged to keep track, we just feel that way.Rain the 1 00:48, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

I'll try and get some done tomorrow too, i keep starting things and never finishing them, and there is loads that needs doing with the HO articles. D4nnyw14 (talk) 01:00, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Reply

Hi! Thanks for the message, but Im a bit confused about what you are asking me. Are you asking that it is not neccessary to have all the BBC refs in the Plot and just for the Writers and Directors? And thanks for the interest! Im slowly finishing it! — M.Mario (T/C) 15:17, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Also, I was wondering, how did wikipedia come about acquiring the image of Tameka? I think it is from Flickr, but the users other images are all copyrighted, so how did we get it? — M.Mario (T/C) 15:17, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Doctors

I'd appreciate your view on Talk:List of Doctors characters to try and resolve this finally. Thanks. Adamiow (talk) 20:48, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Summer Bay

Do you still have that Jai info? I've already laid out his SLs and casting in the 2008 list.

Conquistador2k6 15 October 2012 23:16 (UTC) Do you still have that Jai info? I've already laid out his SLs and casting in the 2008 list.

OK, Seems a fair trade-off. Conquistador2k6 26 October 2012 22:45 (UTC)

Yeah. Leanne was one of the best comedy characters on the show. Before she was just a one-dimensional bully who gave Katie hell at school and a complete bitch to Jacqui (macing and damn near blinding her) but when they brought her back in 2000 they made her into a more rounded character. Christy was an arse but a likeable one. Conquistador2k6 27 October 2012 00:11 (UTC)

I think I'm about done with my 2008 list save for one more character, Natalie Franklin. Does that October 2008 IS issue (The one used Nicole) for have any useful detail about Elliot (mainly the Island and vs. Roman stuff?) Conquistador2k6 3 November 2012 14:35 (UTC)

Thanks a mil. Conquistador2k6 3 November 2012 17:42 (UTC)

Are you up for a Roman Harris collab rescue mission? or does Action Man wind up in the 2007 list? I've got some odds and ends (i.e. a few sources). I've definitely found my fire again with articles and lists. Conquistador2k6 7 November 2012 18:00 (UTC)

I've laid the groundwork for Roman SLs, Casting (departure mainly), Development (Blindness story) and of course that Daily Record reception piece you found (5 sources in total). I have it saved offline in a word doc so it's ready to go when you are. IMO, Tug is almost perfect, You've put everything in but the kitchen sink and I reckon St. Annie is about as good as she's going to get. lol. Conquistador2k6 8 November 2012 00:58 (UTC)

I can show you a work in progress of what I've done so far if you like. I can stick in a userspace and you can add the rest whenever you want. Conquistador2k6 8 November 2012 23:49 (UTC)

If you have anything on Beth (I left the stuff you had in Tug's article alone) or Dylan, You're more than welcome in the 1994 userspace. If not, no rush. Conquistador2k6 19 November 2012 00:55 (UTC)

Reply

Aha, I can see why you were reverting it now! :) My mistake, but I just followed what the site said. Thanks for the link, I will get to downloading it soon. — M.Mario (T/C) 14:33, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Just changed the page to 150, thank you very much! — M.Mario (T/C) 14:40, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Damn! I just got an edit conflict with User talk:90.218.53.174 and wondered who it was! You beat me to it! :D — M.Mario (T/C) 21:00, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Request for comments/opinion

Hi Rain. If you have a minute and could weigh in on this discussion I'd appreciate it. Even though it is regarding US shows I thought you might be able to advise on the inclusion of nighttime dramas in the project or not. Thank you! Kelly Marie 0812 (talk) 11:34, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

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Opinion needed

Hello Raintheone. I was wondering, when you get a chance, if you could voice your opinion here please? Thanks! Creativity97 22:39, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Chris Pappas

I'm going to work on the article about the new one as soon as I'm done with the dab run, yes. The thing about dabbing user talk pages and the like is that if I chose the wrong one in that particular instance, then it was pointing to the wrong place to begin with (since the topic at the plain title was the one from Neighbours, not the one from EastEnders). The reason why it's important to try to dab everything you can regardless of what namespace it's in, is because if you don't then those discussions will be linking to incorrect pages -- and that in turn may make the context confusing (such as if the link was in the context of a vandalism warning, so if we ever need to refer back to it at a later date then it'll be harder to find the vandalism.)

For the record, it's also not strictly essential to start a discussion before every page move; only ones where it might actually be ambiguous or controversial have to be discussed first. In a straightforward case where there's no real argument to be had and the main title is being converted to a disambiguation page rather than being arbitrarily claimed for the new topic, then as long as everything's fixed properly there doesn't actually have to be a debate about it. Bearcat (talk) 22:18, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

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There have been new opinions about last appearances and I would like to reach a final consensus. Creativity97 15:39, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Template discussion

Hey! I have started a discussion about soap opera article templates and the unneeded "Romance" section here at WP:Soaps that is of your interest, as an avid contributor to soap opera content on Wikipedia. Please share your thoughts! Arre 06:26, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

To the message that was removed, If I have time I shall have a look over it.Rain the 1 01:05, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Nvm, i thought i was asking too much. Also, I want to ask you something. I know you use screenshots, but what do you think is better: a random promotional photograph of the actor which is used in articles to talk about the soap opera, or a promotional image of the actor as the character on set? I think the second one is better. That's what I've done for Sharon & Victor Newman's article. What do you think? Arre 01:04, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Your not asking too much - but I'm just lazy and tired on weeknights. In character on set - it needs to be in character to be a picture of the character. Otherwise it is the actor and that can be misleading.Rain the 1 01:10, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

That's exactly what I think, which is why I like to use images from SoapNet. They are great; they capture the actor on set, or while playing the character. But others don't agree. They tend to use photoshoot pics, which is alright but it is misleading. It's okay, haha :) You don't have to. Just if you see anything little here and there that is incorrect, fix it :) Arre 23:51, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Dam!

Dam! ;) — M.Mario (T/C) 19:10, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Stephanie Scully

Just wanted to say thanks :)--5 albert square (talk) 23:59, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Wedding crash deaths on Hollyoaks

I just watched some of that very early this morning, and whoa. As not to spoil you, I'm asking how much of it have you seen? Flyer22 (talk) 21:38, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Hey I have seen it all ;P I have seen up to tomorrow's episode. It was great wasn't it.Rain the 1 22:10, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, this soap opera goes all out with special effects. And Maddie Morrison's death was definitely Final Destination-style. When searching for spoilers (not detailed ones, just minor ones), I saw a reader mention that she'd been killed off, but I couldn't fully believe it. That night/early morning, I'd been watching clips of her storyline featuring Esther, then decided to go look for spoilers. Once I read the death spoiler, I hurried back to watch more Maddie clips, and was still shocked because at first it looked like she was going to survive. Not to mention, the manner in which she died was jaw-dropping. Since watching the show again these past few months, I've mainly been watching the teenager storyline, but I plan to watch more of the show instead of just that group. I'm going to have to now anyway, considering these deaths. Do you know the best site to watch full episodes at? Flyer22 (talk) 23:36, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Youtube is always good there are two users that upload there, Dailymotion too. Well Oaks has been pretty shocking this year, Lynsey, Riley, Rhys, Maddie, Neil and Jono's deaths were all kept a secret until the episodes aired. There is loads to look foward too - like John Paul returning.Rain the 1 23:45, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Do you know the uploaders' names off the top of your head or will you have to check? And, yeah, I heard about Maddie's death being kept secret by the showrunners and the actress. Flyer22 (talk) 03:20, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Also, I likely know of one of the uploader's you are speaking of. If you were speaking of tvmogel08, yeah, I already knew about that uploader and was already watching some of those uploads. Flyer22 (talk) 08:57, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Sometimes emmettscanlanfans has full eps, but mostly surrounding big events and Brendan/Ste/Doug. I always watch tvmogel though and you've already found them.Rain the 1 10:26, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the other referral. Flyer22 (talk) 16:38, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Infobox questions

Hi Rain - there's been some talk and testing with using infobox2 on US soap articles... and I have a couple questions on a couple of the parameters. I've asked them over at WP:SOAPS, if you have a minute could you weigh in on how it works for you guys? Thank you! Kelly Marie 0812 (talk) 05:38, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi again - thanks for weighing in. I'm wondering, since there seems to be a couple parameters you oppose that are currently on box2, if you think the end consensus might result in one box we all use? Just wanted to see if you think this might be a possibility before adding it to the long discussion going on right now. Kelly Marie 0812 (talk) 01:41, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Hey. Well I think other editors would need to get involved in that. I can think of atleast 10 editors that use the infobox2 often. They have not really commented on the state of affairs in the discussion I have joined in.Rain the 1 01:46, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Agreed - just wondering, based on your knowledge of UK soap articles and editors, if you think it's worth bringing up? I don't want to add any confusion to current discussion... but if we're getting close to the same template maybe we should all be discussing at once? IDK, I don't know much about the differences between US and UK soaps. I wish it wasn't so difficult to come to a consensus! Kelly Marie 0812 (talk) 01:55, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Creators who aren't head writers

Hi Rain - would you be able to point me in the right direction of the examples you mentioned where the head writer at the time was not the creator of the character? While there's been consensus to include both introducer and creator fields, there is now some opposition on what content to use for the creator field. If you would prefer to comment directly, here is the link. Thanks for all your input in this long discussion! Kelly Marie 0812 (talk) 22:37, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for providing those examples! Kelly Marie 0812 (talk) 17:16, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Emmerdale cast list articles from 2010

Hi! I was just wondering if you could update the cast articles from Alicia becuase many of them are just on a pgae together, so i was wondering if you could put them all on a main atricle and also if you could update Bernice Blackstock's picture. Thanks :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.101.204.243 (talk) 19:31, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

If you wish Alicia to have a separate article, you could try Wikipedia:Articles for creation. - JuneGloom Talk 20:25, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Not sure if you are still monitoring this discussion - but I don't have time to create an article for Alicia, so June's sugestion is the best option right now. But as luck would have it I have been watching Emmerdale on the STV player so I did grab a new image of Bernice.Rain the 1 01:13, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Esther Bloom

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Advice

Hey Rain, I was just wondering is there any way to idk, call off a GA review or anything like that? U know how the Sharon Newman article GA is taking ages. I'm growing more frustrated because In a few days I'll be moving and won't have time for Wikipedia at all. I'm not being dramatic but I'm just asking you for advice because you have been through a lot of GA reviews by the looks of it. What should I do? I hope you could understand how discouraged I feel after having nominated the article on 25 October and someone promising to review it on October 28 yet barely anything is done:\ sorry, I just needed someone to vent to. Lol Arre 15:59, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Maybe contacting an admin would help? I think you can leave a note at the GAN talk page and ask for assistance. You can also request reassessment after the review is closed. I can certainly understand where you are coming from. You worked hard and put it forward as a good article candidate. You would expect the person who offers to review it to atleast complete it. In my opinion M.Mario is taking reviews in order to fill his user contribuations box placed on his page. You need a reviewer with more follow through. It is reasonable that you feel frustrated and discouraged.Rain the 1 21:05, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Ah okay, thanks for the advice! And thankyou for understanding. I'll contact an admin. Arre 00:30, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Ugh this is the most frustrating thing ever. These people seem to not be online a lot and can't even close the review :( Arre 11:57, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

GA Review

Hi there! I was wondering, if you had the time, if you'd be interested in reviewing Adam Newman for GA. Let me know! Regards, Creativity97 20:53, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Hello there. I am really busy IRL at the moment and I am not sure I would be of any help this week. But I if the situation changes I will let you know. Sorry that I cannot offer any immediate help.Rain the 1 21:15, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

This is totally shallow and off-topic, but the two actors that have played that character are very good looking. Back on topic and I notice some of the storylines seem to be in past tense, when they should be in present as this is the way they were viewed. There's a MoS Fiction guideline around somewhere that mentions that. - JuneGloom Talk 22:47, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

That's okay Rain. We are all busy. Creativity97 23:30, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Did you know?

Omg I just found out that Patrika Darbo is returning as Nancy Wesley! Did u hear? This is so cool. :L I'm a little late on the news aha. It's a good thing that you worked on her article! Arre 05:25, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Hey i was wondering, do you know anybody who could review Sharon Newman for GA? Arre 12:47, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

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Joey R

Go for it! I granted you access a while ago as I did with Lachie and Roman, Mi userspace es su Userspace. I've also considered recovering James Fraser from the dead but am even more limited in that so he's in a word document at a minute. Had I had a crystal ball during the late 90s and saw that Wikipedia would have been created one day, I probably never would have flung out those IS issues after each fortnight was up, lol. Conquistador2k6Talk to me, Dammit! 09:56 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Beautician's Assistant if we wanna get technical. Conquistador2k6Talk to me, Dammit! 23:26 15 December 2012 (UTC)

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Casey/Beth/Thanks

I only threw in the towel on Casey as she'd been left to languish for a number of years and had to before the deletion police swooped in or at the very least rerouted her, so that was a protection measure. Besides I haven't completely given up on her, I've just moved her SLs to the list until something materialises.

Also, Beth. I asked you a while back if you had some stuff on her for the '94 list. She's the only real key piece in that as pretty much everyone from that year has articles.

Oh, and thanks a bil for your help with Joey. You're the real deal. Conquistador2k6 02:04 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Back to Casey; If we were to restore her, what exactly would save her from being '96 list fodder? Conquistador2k6 23:24 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Would you say Joey is about ready to be "reincarnated" or is there more to be added? We've done reasonably well considering the scant material on him. And After Joey, Should we slap under construction sign on Casey? 22:35 19 December 2012 (UTC)

I'd say Joey isn't ready yet, mainly because I've got some departure and reception info to give to Rain. - JuneGloom Talk 00:58, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Tug O'Neale

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Gabi Hernandez

Hey RT1. I'm really annoyed because I spent all of yesterday creating an article for Gabi Hernandez which I worked very hard on (here is a bit of it, but I added more once the article was created). I didn't even create it, It was already a redirect. Someone just deleted it without even reading it or anything. I'm really annoyed. What's the best way to go about this? Arre 04:18, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

It does seem unfair, you have worked hard, it was deleted because of a deletion discussion that had no depth to begin with. I'll ask around.Rain the 1 17:29, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

I requested help from User:AnemoneProjectors who kindly resolved the issue.Rain the 1 18:03, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Thankyou so much Rain. I was really upset about this :\ So glad it's undeleted. Arre 04:54, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Quick question

Hi Rain, hope your well. Wondering if you know the answer or if this has been discussed already, or if I should just bring to wp:soaps. For fictional characters who are doctors, I know "Dr." is never included in the page title, but what about infobox header and when referenced in prose, other articles, lists, etc.? It seems to me that it should be in the lead sentence and not included everywhere (for one, the piped links drive me batty), but I do see it quite often so maybe it is common practice? The only policy-like answer I've found is here which says to avoid honorifics, but again may be referring to page names and it's just an essay. Anyway, just thought I'd see if you knew - thanks! Kelly Marie 0812 (talk) 18:49, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

warning

You have just warned me for causing 'distruption' when in fact i have not because the album for Ren Harvieu did not enter at number 2 which is also not sourced and in fact did enter at number 5 which IS sourced here http://www.officialcharts.com/archive-chart/_/3/2012-05-26/ so please enter this and an apology would be appropriate as well as you went straight to warning without politely asking --Onlythetruthisappropriate (talk) 23:13, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

question

I was wondering if you could demonstrate entering a source --Onlythetruthisappropriate (talk) 23:26, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

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Questions

Hey Rain, sorry to disturb you but I want your opinion about something. A couple other editors think that Sharon Newman's character development section is long and should be it's own article..and they really think I should create a separate one. I'm not too sure; what do you think? I wanted to ask you. Arre 14:21, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Can you please give your opinion here? Arre 14:57, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings!!

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Merry Christmas

	Merry Christmas
	Wishing you peace, love and joy! I hope you have a great Christmas and a wonderful new year Rain, I hope you enjoy your day :) If it wasn't for you I would have no idea what I'm doing on Wikipedia, aha. Thanks for being my mentor this time last year. All the best, Arre 04:36, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

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	Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Warmest regards, Creativity97 19:46, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

Hope you have a good one! Conquistador2k6 00:16 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Season's Greetings

	Merry Christmas!
	I hope you have a very Merry Christmas. :) JuneGloom Talk 00:12, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!

	Happy Holidays
	Hi Rain, hope everything is going well and you are having a nice holiday! Thanks for everything you do here and always being a great soaps editing resource! All the best! Kelly Marie 0812 (talk) 02:56, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Tyler Michaelson character article???

Hey. I started a discussion on whether the character of Tyler Michaelson merits his own article. Your opinion would be greatly appreciated.--Nk3play2 ^{my buzz} 21:25, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Cheers

Cheers!

Thanks for your reasonable viewpoint at the "Hypnotico" talk page. It's nice to know somebody else shares my astonishment that some song articles are poorly written, even ones that have been granted GA status. If I were in your neighborhood I would buy you a beer and we could commiserate! Binksternet (talk) 04:52, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Hello. I took part in a Jennifer Lopez song AFD discussion once. One editor suggested that background sections were being used to fend of GNG concerns. I have never looked at them the same way. I often read music related articles but hardly edit them. Popular music and singers attract "stans" and I am not much for the drama that comes with that. I have wrote one article about a song (with the help of User:JuneGloom07) and that is Black Heart (song). I think there was an effort to include relevant information only in the background section. So to see a number of issues in Hypnotico I thought it was worth starting a discussion - notice some drama was created as expected.Rain the 1 23:24, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Looking at Black Heart (song), I think you were very successful in limiting the background section to only those things that are relevant to the song. If you ever submit that article at WP:GAN then let me know right away so I can review it.

Back to the Lopez song articles: at Talk:Invading My Mind/GA1, Lil-unique1 was the reviewer. Regarding the background section, Lil-unique1 said, "Everything bar the last two sentences is irrelevant. All of that stuff about the album belongs on the album's page. The background should be about how where and how "Invading My Mind" came about." The problem was never fixed, yet Lil-unique1 passed the article anyway, to allow it to be GA status. I think that kind of reviewing action cheapens the achievement of everyone else getting their article to GA. Binksternet (talk) 23:54, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

We may take you up on that offer in the future. I am quite concerned that the article was passed without that being addressed. I noticed that you removed the background section. You were right to do so and your change exposed something else. The song is not really notable - the majority of the remaining sources are actually album reviews of "Love?" - where generic mentions of "Invading My Mind" are expected.Rain the 1 01:05, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Small question

Hey Rain, I just want to ask you something. If a storyline is already discussed in a "Character development" section more in-depth, does it still need to be briefly touched upon in the storyline section? Sharon Newman has a bit of a gap in her storyline section and I'm wondering what to do. Thanks Arre 04:30, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

You can mention it again just avoid going into great detail - sort of a "in a nutshell" summary. That would avoid repetition.Rain the 1 15:14, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Okay thanks:) Btw I've been working on a supercouple artice, Nick and Sharon. What do u think of the info-box? Arre 18:26, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

The infobox is similar to BLP infoboxes - potentially misleading? I dislike supercouple articles & I have previously been vocal about them. But I will offer some advice - the "Relationship with Nicholas Newman" section in Sharon's article needs condensing to include key points & a main article link adding to Nick and Sharon. Then the reader can be directed to the entire story.Rain the 1 19:33, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

But I just returned to my watchlist and noticed you already made the change. Groovy.Rain the 1 19:36, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

I dislike them too and feel like they are a waste of space but I worked on this one anyway aha. yes I have begun to condense that section on Sharon's article. I'm planning to condense it a little more. Yea, i was going to use a soap info-box but it says "character". Arre 20:04, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

You could propose that a "characters" field is added. Hardly controversial.Rain the 1 20:11, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

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Happy New Year!

I'm half-cut (standard proceedure per New Years, closer to 3/4 :) ) but I say this, Thanks for allowing me to collab with you on various lists and helping me with mine. You're a stand-up ledge and long may we beat many lists and articles into shape in 2013 together! Conquistador2k6 04:40 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Happy New Year. You left compliments last New Year too. So I like drunk C2k6. =] I am sure we will continue to make a success of the projects over the coming year.Rain the 1 20:09, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Happy New Year

	Happy New Year!!
	Happy New Year! I hope you have an amazing productive year, filled with happiness. Much Love, Arre 12:07, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello!

Could you do me a favour please and keep a close eye on this user's contributions? Just about the only reason they've not been blocked for impersonating Kylie Minogue is because they have spelt their name slightly differently so it's pronounced slightly differently. The editors been reported to WP:UAA and another admin is reluctant to block because of the spelling of the name. When I've looked the editor has only made one edit but it has been to an actresses page which is now deleted. I'm just worried if they come back and edit other actors/actresses pages then people may start to think this is Kylie Minogue and in that case they would have to be blocked. Could you please help me keep an eye on them and if they edit again file a report at WP:UAA?

Happy New Year to you!--5 albert square (talk) 17:37, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Happy New Year to you too - I will keep an eye out. But maybe they will not edit again - some people jjust create accounts for single edits and never return.Rain the 1 20:11, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Opinion

Hey sorry to bother you, but I wanted your opinion about something. There is this article The Young and the Restless characters introduced in 2013. I personally think, to keep with the consistency of other proceeding articles and to keep with the consistency of generally all soaps that have character lists/articles by year, the title should be changed. What do u think? Also, do you believe that articles like these aren't actually lists? Arre 23:46, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Marta Del Sol

The DYK project (nominate) 00:22, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

I don't really understand your problem — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wigglewoggle (talk • contribs) 22:16, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Esther

I am a freelance journalist who has over 10 years of experience working for the BBC and national publications. Digital Spy often uses other sources for their articles and the person writing the articles does not essentially mean they have conducted the interview so correct citing of information is needed.

Wikipedia is supposed to expand on articles and creating a through encyclopedic information which should go into greater detail as possible about the topic. And provide adequate context for storyline plots(especially to those who are accessing information for the first time.) The edits I have made actually expands on what was a poorly edited article. It did not provide context and some sections are fundamentally lacking on Wikipedia's quality scale. To which featured article status would "Professional, outstanding, and thorough; a definitive source for encyclopedic information." removing key information reduces the quality of the article and in the terms of the quality scale will find readers "wanting" more, than quick summary's of information. Articles on wikipedia are supposed to be as definitive and detailed as possible. Fan-sites often do not go into great depth.

Use of incorrect terminology also undermines the quality of the article. Professionals in the entertainment industry who audition for roles are not called applicants but audtionees not applicants ensuring correct terminology and phrases is important to the quality of the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frenchhousefantatic (talk • contribs) 16:35, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Esther

I actually made the article better by adding appropriate context for example she did not fall into a coma she was placed in an induced coma. No context given to a new reader or someone accessing the information for the first time. I will not engage in an edit war as it is not appropriate. Will say the article does not use correct terminology nor does it cite articles correctly which makes this whole article unsafe and prone to problems. Lastly Digital Spy is owned by Hearst who share resources, that does not mean the journalist actually conducted the interview, cite sources correctly. For example "quoted on digital spy" instead of naming specific journalists. Again look at the scope of wikipedia which is supposed to be and encyclopedia with detailed information the article does little to move that remit forward. You can have a balance between being necessarily detailed when needed as in this case it is. Its a shame that the basics of my profession are flagrantly ignored.

Sincerely FHF. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frenchhousefantatic (talk • contribs) 18:41, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Rebecca Barnes

The character's name on the show Dallas (2012 TV series) is referred as Pamela Rebecca Barnes instead of just Rebecca Barnes. So to avoid confusion with names I decided to move the page so to give character one name instead of confusing readers with multiple names.Vin99 00:37, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Hollyoaks

Hey, what should we do about the whole Matthew McQueen thing, technically he can't be both JP and Craig's son and he does have a mum, even if IPs can't quite understand that. D4nnyw14 (talk) 18:52, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Any idea? Only option seems to be to keep reverting the edits or leave both as the father, but that doesn't seem like much of a solution. D4nnyw14 (talk) 00:45, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Sorry about not replying. Anyway, me and JG discussed it a bit before. There is no way of knowing that he is even John Paul's child. A hidden note may help. I think neither should be included as the biological father. It is unkown who is the father.Rain the 1 20:00, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

It's ok, i'll add hidden messages if IPs readd them as Matthew's fathers, is there not a suitable alternative in the ibox? Like adoptive father or would that be unsuitable? D4nnyw14 (talk) 20:57, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

I do not think there is another alternative. Technically he has to be the child's legal guardian? Unless the mother registered one on the birth certificate - then you could argue they are legally the father?Rain the 1 20:58, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

If they are legally the father should they go in the ibox, or just leave them out of the ibox all together. Can two men be legally registered as fathers? D4nnyw14 (talk) 23:54, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

I do not know about that? But maybe the mother registered JP. But we do not know anyway. What a tricky one.Rain the 1 23:59, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

I tried googling it a bit, and i think for both men to be on the birth certificate it has to go through a court ruling, so that wouldn't have happened so either one or neither of JP and Craig would be legally registered as the father. I think we will just have to leave it blank for now and add a hidden note if they are added, it might be addressed at some point in the future. Google has some ridiculous suggestions when typing things in like "can two men love each other" and "can two virgins get stds", the internet is ridiculous. D4nnyw14 (talk) 00:17, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Probably the best option. But Haha. Your average night on the net then aye... Now Annalise is leaving with Rob - were they even given a chance?Rain the 1 00:20, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

FFS! No! I'm gutted, i love Annalise. She could have been great if they'd given her a chance, she could of had an OCD storyline, everyone thought that was where she was heading and then she goes no where. Her exit is rubbish too, going back to someone who treated her like crap. Hollyoaks is losing too many of it's good characters, Lynsey and Mitzeee in the space of seven months is a huge blow, and Brendan and Cheryl are pretty big characters too, although i couldn't care about either very much. At least we have Clare coming back and hopefully Amy will return full time. D4nnyw14 (talk) 00:28, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

You know what - I am actually not fussed about Brendan leaving either. He only worked well with Amy, Rae and Ste in the early days for me. Annalise certainly had potential and the actress was strong. And I so wish Amy was back for good.Rain the 1 00:51, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

I only really liked his scenes with Lynsey and some of his with Mitzeee, i am really going to miss Mitzeee, at least she can return, killing Lynsey off was and is still a huge mistake. Annalise was the best of the fresher group after Ash became slightly annoying, but at least they are keeping Will around. Amy is the only reason i hope Ste sticks around after Brendan and Cheryl go, so she can return full time. D4nnyw14 (talk) 01:01, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Is SoapSqwuak reliable? I know we haven't used it yet, but do we know who is running it? They know everything before DS now, Clare, Sandy and now Texas. D4nnyw14 (talk) 20:34, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

I have no idea who is running it. They have something going on that is for sure. As for Texas - you can imagine I was not best pleased to read that headline.Rain the 1 21:03, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

They might have a mole or something but it is really weird how they are getting info about an hour before DS. I knew you'd be gutted, i didn't like her but she was on around the same place as Riley on my list of people who should stay, about 20 other characters should leave before her, but if the forums are anything to go by we will be losing Leanne, Barney, Liberty and Dennis, which is good although i have a soft spot for Leanne. I hate how everyone is already going on about how bad the sl will be and how bad BK is doing, some people want to rain on every parade possible. When i first read the headline i thought the surprise victim wouldn't be revealed in the article, and why do Hollyoaks make sure that any likeable character who is leaving will either be happy or have a horrible death, still not over Lynsey, Rae, Heidi, Steph, India and Sarah getting pretty nasty deaths, still Maddie makes up for it. D4nnyw14 (talk) 21:33, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

I really like Leanne and Dennis. I am just glad Texas gets a memorable exit. But no one is safe until he settles his plans into action. As for those posters, how can any producer keep them happy? It has turned into the number one spot for serving up criticism. Ew. I guess I need to update Texas' article, I always planned on finishing it.Rain the 1 23:24, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Hey, i haven't left or anything i just haven't been active for a few weeks, been busy and i just haven't bothered to edit, i'll probably start editing again regularly soon. The Oaks' articles keep getting vandalised but as neither of us are that active atm most of the vandalism and storyline dumps just gets left! D4nnyw14 (talk) 00:13, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Hey! Has Amy left again, i saw the episode but was distracted at the time and she just seemed to disappear after the first part. She's still listed as past on the E4 site. D4nnyw14 (talk) 20:54, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

I was out so I did not get to watch the episode yet. I just wish she would stay though.Rain the 1 21:17, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

I'll leave her as present for now and see if i can find the episode online later. Hopefully she will stay, i'd imagine BK would want her back as he gave her the DV storyline - i still can't believe she was axed by Smithwick over Ste. D4nnyw14 (talk) 22:02, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Downton Abbey

Surprisingly insensitive for a soap opera fan. Its 3 little words in a character box. Whats the big deal? BTW, I talked to an admin hours before you threatened to call one.[19] Why would you assume bad faith so quickly? ```Buster Seven Talk 23:33, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

I have not made any threats. I alerted other editors to the fact that if anyone attempts to censor - they are well within their rights to alert an admin. As you have pointed out - you did alert an admin. The reponse appears to be exactly what I have already said. We do not censor. And I am confused as to why a fan of a soap opera should be more sensitive. I openly state on my talk page that while I am a fan, I have little time for fan values. I would spend my time on a fansite rather than Wikipedia if that were the case.Rain the 1 00:04, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Creation of stub TV Series articles

Hello J Bar. I could not help but notice that you appear to be creating many articles for TV series - without much content. Infact they are basic efforts. I do not mean to sound rude or anything - but surely a little more effort would benefit the articles? For instance Janet King (TV series) could have been better served in the actual Crownies article until more information becomes available. The choice of sources were not that great. I did notice some quite respectable sources have documented the spin-off with more information. Plus there was only the most basic information included. I was not aware that this is the correct procedure, to just create stubs. If anything it just creates problems for other editors? That is just my opinion though - but I look forward to hearing from you.Rain the 1 17:01, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Hello, Raintheone. I am creating some of these new articles on TV series when the announcements are made and adding more information as it becomes available. I have found that if I kickstart these article, in most cases other editors will come along and provide a lot more information that they have gathered from various other sources. If I wait until I find more information on a particular subject, I may struggle to find the original information and that is a loss for the article. Sometimes cast announcements and details are released in dribs and drabs and it is a mammoth task to go back and track it down again six or twelve months later. Believe me, I am putting in the effort to expand the articles whenever I get the chance, if another editor hasn't beaten me to it. J Bar (talk) 23:53, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

I kinda hate myself for proving your point. It took me a couple of hours to expand the Janet King (TV series) article, but why you couldn't have started it this way is beyond me. I didn't have a problem finding the original information either. Google is your friend. - JuneGloom Talk 19:33, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Not all of us have a couple of hours to devote to every article but I'm doing my bit. Wikipedia is supposed to be a team effort so thanks for being a team player and contributing to the article. J Bar (talk) 00:35, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

EotW Hello

		The Friendship Barnstar
		Nice to meet you. That other incident is forgotten. The future of Editor of the Week depends on nominations. You seem to be a Wiki wanderer. I would imagine that you run across potential candidates here and there. Please keep EotW in mind. ```Buster Seven Talk 15:33, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Hello

They said Miller at least four times. I have not caught Miss Mardles name. I will recheck, but Ripper street awaits. by the way the link does not seem to be working to the PDF. I downloaded it to my laptop sometime ago. I do not know if a PDF can be uploaded as a reference or if it has ever been done. Regards.REVUpminster (talk) 22:23, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

H&A: 2013 edition.

As you've noticed I'm bouncing around like Zebedee from the Magic Roundabout on the H&A front this week lol. I summoned the will to provide SLs for Josie and Kim (I had to reach down deep for the latter) and I believe the Pearen stuff is the only thing holding up the '94 list up. Plus do you have anything for James Fraser (Chloe and Diana stuff mainly) and will you be ready for that Casey Mitchell tag team collab at some point? Conquistador2k6 1 March 2013 00:33 (UTC)

I think I have a few, I know I have got lots of mag articles on Chloe. Sorry about the Pearen stuff, I forgot again. There always seems to be an endless list of projects but so little time. But the weekend is here and time I have, so maybe I will be able to help tick some of those of the list. Not sure about starting another sandbox just yet though, need to consider completing the old ones.Rain the 1 18:03, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

IMO, Casey, having ducked deletion unlike Joey, who we dug up from the grave, could work with a restore rather than sandboxing her and a couple sources until something more concrete is laid down, ala Donna or we could go down the Sarah Thompson route. We're doing a helluva lot better than we were a while ago. When we got started with the lists there were only two, 2009 and 2011!

Mass of Chloe info eh?... Wonder if that stretches to Lachie too? (She did love him more than his bro) Conquistador2k6 1 March 2013 18:41 (UTC)

I know I have articles on Lachie, so I will just need to find them.Rain the 1 22:50, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Started on Casey, slapped a sign on her. Hopefully with the info you have the story may erode a bit more. I only really left what was important. Conquistador2k6 3 March 2013 12:42 (UTC)

I think her exit story could be condensed. I cannot find any more for now, there was a big interview. But I have looked everywhere. That will do for now wont it? I said I would tick atleast one of the things before the end of the weekend. Three hours rummaging through soap mags didn't help. I found quite a few Lachie articles, not sure when I will have the time. Found numerous sources for other 90's characters that I had forgotten about.Rain the 1 22:15, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

I think we've done MORE than a satisfactory job with her. The exit story is small enough to hold us for now. Just out of interest who did you cough up on your search? Conquistador2k6 4 March 2013 00:33 (UTC)

Well see - I have information for those in the 1995 list - but they are now stuck in a list. It means there isn't really motivation for me to add the information. Alex and Jo's entries could be so much more. The 1994 and 1996 could have a nice expansion too. While the 2007 list, there should be a lot of information out there because it is so recent. So think of it this way. We can argue that when there is no where to put the information for the article, we can impove the stub or restore for now, an article that may only have a few sources. So Alex could have had a few sources for now and wait until more is available.. There are more than two magazines with the actor I do not (yet) own.. but because he is in the list, I cannot really split him off. Proceed with caution and think who wouuld you like to have an article.Rain the 1 18:57, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

2007 has sort of stalled due to Roman and the Campbells in sandboxes plus the missing info on Cam, Noel and Bruce. I reckon Alex shouldn't be split until everything's in place ala Haydn and the improvements you made to him. 1996 slowed down, tried scouring for Rachel and Kylie but they're banked in others. Maybe I could graduate them to hidden iboxes in the list as they were a big part of Jesse's story. And I tried to find some Terri stuff but that hit a brick wall. Outside of Pearen, I'm not sure what could be done to '94 as just about everybody from then is accounted for. Conquistador2k6 4 March 2013 20:10 (UTC)

I will add some info here and there.Rain the 1 21:00, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Dude, you are aware I already have a Lachie sandbox? You could have put the stuff there and saved yourself the bother of starting over... or do you wish to work independently then slap it all together? 10 March 2013 00:42 (UTC)

I just fancied creating tonight. I was going to add some info to Selina and Shannon.. but couldn't be bothered. I think my work is better when it begins from scratch, like a blank canvass. Then I build it up and see where it goes. I haven't done that in a while since Tug n Frank's articles. Don't want to offend you though mate.Rain the 1 01:09, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

None taken at all. You do what you feel is best. Feel free to use the stuff I have. I'll hang back and watch. 10 March 2013 01:17 (UTC)

Only going to do a little more tonight. I think the reason I always include storylines last is because they can be moulded around the development section. I find it harder to write when it is the other way around, because I am always trying to stick or make it relevant to what is in the storyline section. Btw, where has your signature sneaked off to again? :SRain the 1 01:21, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

I'm on planet Conquistador tonight, lol... We all have nights where we're not 100% on the ball. At least you know it's me, not Dracula back from the dead! Ha! As if by magic, it's back :) Conquistador2k6 10 March 2013 01:26 (UTC)

That is good to see.Rain the 1 01:29, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

The James stuff, would you mind if I used for his article I've got brewing as part of the casting or development section? And also you're doing a bloody briliant job. And unlike so many others, this will only need to be restored as Lachie was only redirected instead of deleted. Conquistador2k6 19 March 2013 23:46 (UTC)

I will still ask an admin to move it. That will probably be tomorrow. I found the magazines I need to finish Dan Baker's article. As for James, you are welcome to. If you want me to add the rest of the info from the interview tomorrow evening, then I will be more then happy too. He talks about why he left and character relationships too.Rain the 1 00:08, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Advice

Hey there Rain . I need your advice on something. I have a sandbox I've been working on. The character has been on The Young and the Restless for just over a month. I was wondering when you think the reasonable time would be to create an article like this. This was a very high-profiled casting and everything about this actor joining the show has been high-profile. What do you think? Arre 00:46, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Hello. Well it depends on how notable they are. The longer a character has been on-screen doesn't necessarily determine whether they pass the WP:GNG. It is what they do that counts and the information and sources etc. If you demonstrate notability, such as an article with a whole load of sourced content rather than storylines, you really cannot go wrong.Rain the 1

Have a look here and tell me what you think. I haven't written a storyline yet but there is a lot of notable info. he hasn't had much storyline yet but his storyline is with some of the core characters of the show. Arre 02:24, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Well that looks good so you should have no worries.Rain the 1 21:46, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Thankyou for your input. Btw, I thought it would be worth telling you that Nancy will be back on Days of our Lives reuniting with Chloe next week so exciting. Arre 05:12, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Good stuff. I shall keep an eye out for new information to add to the article now then.Rain the 1 18:40, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

H&A 2013 v2.0

Managed to cut Alex down a tad. I think he's about ready to split if you have the stuff. I'm all for Diana having her own article. She was probably the closest thing to a superbitch the show had post-Morag and pre-Angie. There's bound to be some choice stuff about her treating Chloe like something she stepped in when she was with either of her sons. Conquistador2k6 26 March 2013 21:13 (UTC)

What's with the Jane removal in the '90 list? Have you gained enough info to take her out of others? Conquistador2k6 2 April 2013 22:35 (UTC)

Hey. Yeah I have had the info for a while. But I seem to have misplaced it. Just doing it now though.Rain the 1 21:49, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

1999 is going better than I thought it would, There's considerably less of a brick wall than with some others. I did a mild patchjob with Peta a few weeks ago, so she's not destined for list fodder. Edward, Judith and Ken on the other hand are pretty much screwed unless you have any additional.

Sandboxes piling up, eh? Well, Dan's practically done, as is Annie and all James needs is some reception, really. That might lighten the load.

Conquistador2k6 00:12 12 April 2013 2(UTC)

No wonder the 1999 list is going well, all you've had to do is copy and paste entire sections from other articles into it without changing a damn thing. (That Edward kid sounds fascinating though). - JuneGloom Talk 21:20, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

It's the not the cakewalk 1989 or 1995 were. Most of the regulars from that period have their own articles anyhow (Nick, Mitch, Harry, Shauna, Peta). However Ken and Judith are my major wallbangers right now, but I still hold out a LOT more hope for them than Stephanie and Liam in '96. My prayers would be answered if there were SOME half-decent Phelan or Hruby interviews or development.

Edward, despite his brief stay was one of the more interesting teens of the late 90s, really surprised there isn't more on him out there. The Goth look was seriously WTF at the time but the guy playing him made it work. Guess the producer probably wanted someone a little less vanilla or cookie cutter. Conquistador2k6 00:48 15 April 2013(UTC)

I think what we have is sufficient. If 14 sources aren't, I'd hate to see what was INSUFFICIENT. Even though it is my sandbox, you did like 60% of the work. I think it should go out. You do have a picture of Michael P. The reception was the real missing piece of the puzzle but I'm letting you have the final say on this. Conquistador2k6 23:13 17 April 2013(UTC)

I'll get onto AP tomorrow about moving, in the same way he did with Lachie, move but keep the history minus. 'Night. Conquistador2k6 00:10 18 April 2013(UTC)

Since you seem to be back on team H&A these days and in a sandbox creating mood, will you be adding anything to Roman in there near future? Also, Would you mind if I helped out a bit with Hugo as he's essentially been left dormant for a while? I'm just in between projects and have kind of slowed down a bit and am sort of picking up the scraps in other places. 16:49 (UTC) 26 May 2013 Conquistador2k6

You can help with Hugo, it has never really been a project to be honest. The article was deleted and I requested the final version for future use. Not sure about Roman though, I would like to create the article - but the current cast have risen to the top of my to do.Rain the 1 16:37, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Well, I've been Tinkering with Annie today and I've gone about as far as I can with Miss-Goody-Two-Shoes (Leady stuff, v.little else). Hugo's giving me a minor headache, I'm unsure where to work the leftover sources. Roman's pretty much yours to do as you wish. I was also thinking about splitting Alex Bennett off at some point but unsure about everything being in place (leave that to you) and there might be one more source that takes Joanne out of the 1995 list.

As for the lists; 2007 has some promise after June's put Geoff's article on hold and suggested to me that I put him in the list, which. 1999 has slowed down as I cannot find anything worthwhile for Ken and Judith. Hyde, Henry, Felix and Peter are who are holding holding up 2004. And 1994, as mentioned just needs Beth/Pearen info. She's the missing piece of that jigsaw.

00:23 (UTC) 12 June 2013 Conquistador2k6

I'm still kind of itching for that 1994 list to go out but need that Toni/Beth stuff. She was the only guest of any real note that year and the cherry on this cake. And everything else I'm working on seems to have gone a bit cold. 00:30 (UTC) 1 August 2013 Conquistador2k6

The list looks a little incomplete without the Others section completely sourced. I might have something for Dylan somewhere. - JuneGloom Talk 15:14, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Hollyoaks Deaths

You removed both Mick & Nana Flo from the "deaths" on the Hollyoaks page, didn't they first appear in the main show before appearing on the Later series? For example Mick appeared to get Joel's mother back and Nana Flo meeting Cheryl to tell her about the illness. Would they be classed as main show characters, allowing their deaths to appear on the page? xX-Xiaoyu-Xx — Preceding unsigned comment added by XX-Xiaoyu-Xx (talk • contribs) 23:24, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Cane Ashby

Hello there! I'm sure you're busy with a bunch of other projects, but I wanted to ask you if, by any chance, you'd be interested in reviewing Cane Ashby for GA. It's been impossible to find a reviewer these past few months. No worries if you can't, but I just thought I'd ask. Thanks! Regards, Creativity97 18:22, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello. Well I a busy at the moment and any editing during week nights is more of a chore. So if it remains unreviewed - the best I can offer is is, that I will take a look at the weekend, if no one makes any plans irl that is.Rain the 1 00:16, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

That would be greatly appreciated! Thanks so much! Creativity97 02:28, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Tug O'Neale

Howdy- I reviewed your nomination of Tug O'Neale as a good article. Sorry it took so long (nearly 5 months) for someone to review. Unfortunately, I did not think the article currently met the good article criteria. I did not think a week would be enough time to get it up to par. You can find my review here. Thank you for your contributions. PrairieKid (talk) 19:37, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

To go over everything I marked as "imperfect" or not up to criteria (I did this here, as the original GA nom discussion is closed):

Prose: I give several examples where the wording is off and I either had to reread or consider what the text was, and a few examples of bad grammar. I felt that the article needed a very thorough edit, and possibly a rewrite to get its basic grammar up to par. But, a good article needs more than just good grammar. It needs to flow, be well-organized and connected, and simply be "very well-written." It would have been a pretty big stretch to think that could be finished in a week, but I likely would have asked, and given you the time to fix it if you wanted it. But- that wasn't all that was wrong.

Refs: The article cites IPC-Media, Black 2009 (that one for three refs in a row), Big!, and Inside Soap for over half of its sources, on top of the fact that there were only 31 sources. Most TV GAs have 45-60, varying sources.

Focus: I think the fact that Bancks (which could be greatly expanded by information in Tug O'Neale, *hint* *hint*) already has a wiki article makes it so you don't need quite as much about him. I'm on the fence about that and it wasn't a big part of my decision.

Images: Again, not a big deal, but I would have liked either a cast photo, or a screenshot that showed an entire scene. (It could have had a link to the episode...) It just would have made the article that much better.

You can still make those improvements, and renominate the article in the coming months, if you want. I'm sorry you didn't find my original critique to be very helpful and I hope this cleared it up a little. LMK if you have any other questions. PrairieKid (talk) 00:00, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

That all sounds fine. I just felt there weren't enough sources. Now, I know that TV Characters generally do not have as many sources as a normal article, so I just looked it up on some character GAs to clarify. It did not meet the ref requirement, nor the prose requirement. I am sorry. Good look with any future improvements and with getting this through to become a GA. PrairieKid (talk) 01:33, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Question about Suzanne Ashworth (HO)

Where was it stated that her maiden name was "Dick" instead of "Fletcher" and that Nikki Fletcher is her half-sister and not her full-sister? Arjoccolenty (talk)

When she returned pregnant she revealed it to Darren.Rain the 1 17:16, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Do you know the date of the episode? I would like to watch it myself. Arjoccolenty (talk) 18:51, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

The best bet is to watch the episodes after she Suzanne birth in Look Sharpe - I remember the scene between Suzanne and Darren in Nancy's flat. No idea which episode it was though.Rain the 1 19:52, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

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New Archieve

Yes Please — Preceding unsigned comment added by Supacalafrajalistic (talk • contribs) 18:08, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Steph Scully

I'm sorry for that Image I just wanted to try new things on wikipeidia... I understand u don't want me to do anything on wikipeidia soo give any punish,ent you want. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Supacalafrajalistic (talk • contribs) 17:14, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

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Oliver Valentine Article

Hello, I recieved your message about Oliver Valentine article; first of all I want to apoloize if I upset you over my edited on Ollie's wikipedia page. I have been a editor on wikipedia for just a year and I am still learning how wikipedia works. About Oliver's article, there as been some new delevopment and storyline of the character with fictional character Tara Lo in Holby City; I have found information and sources about Oliver and Tara's storyline, which can be edited on Ollie's page to inform people about the character latest and updated information. Ollie and Tara got married in Holby City, Series 15, episode 26 "Promises, Promises", before Tara's has life-threatening operation to reduce her brain tumour. I have list sources to the information of Ollie and Tara getting married in Hobly City, Series 15, Episode 26 "Promises, Promises":

• http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01rv7cb (Holby City's official website on the BBC in the UK)
• http://www.radiotimes.com/episode/v4qcr/holby-city--promises-promises (A well-known website about television programmes in the UK)
• http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s19/holby-city/spoilers/a467409/promises-promises.html (A well-known website in the UK)
• http://www.whatsontv.co.uk/holby-city/episodes/ollie-and-tara-get-hitched (A well-known website about television programmes in the UK)
• http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01rv7cb/Holby_City_Series_15_Promises_Promises (Avaliable to watch on BBC iplayer, also please note this episode is available to watch until 8:59PM Tue, 16 Apr 2013, thank you)
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaOkDO9n9Ks (You can watch Holby City, Series 15, Episode 26 "Promises, Promises" on Youtube.)

I want to apoloize again about my edited on Oliver Valentine wikipedia page, I hope with the information and sources I have found about Ollie will make his article even more good with high standards for present and future, and thank you for reading my message. Hogwartsfanzone (10:34, 14 April 2013)

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Miranda

Do NOT call me abusive again. I have done nothing wrong. Speak to me like that again and I will make a formal complaint. Got it? Smurfmeister (talk) 22:56, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

By going to my talk page and accusing me of making threats you are only making your case worse. Smurfmeister (talk) 23:04, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Time to stop

Raintheone, you need to avoid reverting Smurfmeister. You're going to get yourself into an edit war ruckus if you keep this up. I'd like to everyone walk away from this without being blocked but that's probably gonna take a bit of disengagement on all sides. Tiderolls 00:24, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Hello Tide Rolls. I do not mind leaving it to others to sort out now. You have tried to offer your well informed advice and it has not helped the situation. I rather dislike these scenarios as they distract and detract from actual editing. They are the not so fun parts that sometimes occur.Rain the 1 00:40, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps in future you will also think twice before accusing other users of being abusive and making threats. Smurfmeister (talk) 10:02, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

New discussion

Hi there! I've begun a discussion here about titles for soap opera supercouple articles. Your opinion would be gladly appreciated! If you get the chance, could you contribute to the discussion? Thank you! Regards, Creativity97 21:57, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Oaks

Will do. Rui78901 (talk) 01:33, 12 May 2013 (UTC).

H&A

Ah! Well, I wasn't planning to get as stuck into the 2013 page as I was the 2012 one (I was actually worried people would think I was being a bit too over-eager in the including pretty much everyone) but if you need some help, sure, I'll have a look at it at some point. Skteosk (talk) 04:23, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

I think there's probably a couple of characters from the last two weeks of 2012 that I didn't add, I kind of stopped once I got to Gary's debut. I've looked over the first few weeks of 2013 to see if there's anyone missing and I'll get stuck into the page when I've got a spare evening. Skteosk (talk) 18:58, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Spencer gray

I thought spencer went away to live with the valentines he didnt go into a home! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevie sarah louise (talk • contribs) 14:01, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Did they not just move him into another where they were moving too.Rain the 1 14:12, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

New photo

Can I put the new guy for brad willis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Supacalafrajalistic (talk • contribs) 21:37, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

i am close friend to person who plays Jasmine/Jason Costello and she told me that she is going back to Hollyoaks at the end of the year she wanted people to know thanks babe — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.102.20.157 (talk) 20:50, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Toadfish Rebecchi

Can you please put a new image of Toadfish Rebecchi he doesn't look current with this pic — Preceding unsigned comment added by Supacalafrajalistic (talk • contribs) 14:10, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Not sure that a new one is really needed. Should an opportunity arise when watching the show, and I think it is a better choice, then I will replace it.Rain the 1 20:18, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

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Tony/Mandy HO

Did Tony and Mandy have a second miscarriage after they went traveling together? Apparently people are saying that there was a miscarriage in 2009, but all I know is the miscarriage before Grace, Grace who died of SIDS and then baby Ella, who was fathered by a man named Mark. 173.69.33.20 (talk) 00:17, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

I really think this is not true. He just left her stranded and returned to Oaks - She moaned about that a lot, but never mentioned being pregnant etc..Rain the 1 20:16, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Sonny Kiriakis

Can you Please make Sonny Kiriakis page better so his can be as good as Will Horton Please. I just need you to review it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.123.182.8 (talk) 06:02, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

I would normally. But I think it is best to ask User:Nk3play2 as they appear to be working on a sandbox for this character already.Rain the 1 20:15, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

I'm working on it, but it might take a while, I've got a lot of other things going on.--Nk3play2 ^{my buzz} 21:29, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

FAC Comments?

Hi Rain, It's been a while... I was just wondering, would you be whiling to leave any comments or opinions here? I'd really appreciate it :) thanks. Arre 11:47, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

I never noticed this message sorry. I am no good with articles of that height anyway - so I was not needed - as I would be no help.Rain the 1 23:30, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

VJ

I should have said something before you started, but VJ's article needs to be created/recreated at V.J. Patterson. It's a naming conventions thing I believe. - JuneGloom Talk 23:12, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

I think it is one word though? I know the idea came from Vinnie Jnr.Rain the 1 23:14, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Well credited anyway as one word, you know what I mean. Thank you for informing me.Rain the 1 23:22, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Okay, let's create the article at VJ. AJ Ahmed doesn't have the periods in it, so VJ will be following the same lead. Someone with a better knowledge of these things is bound to come along eventually and they might be able to help us out. - JuneGloom Talk 23:24, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Do you want me to add any storylines or are you waiting for more development/reception? Conquistador2k6 3 July 2013 22:57 (UTC)

Well I shall add some more information now. Then it will be easier to tell which storylines need less written about them in the storyline section.Rain the 1 22:25, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

OK, I'll leave it alone for now til you've got everything Development-wise out of the way. Conquistador2k6 6 July 2013 10:30 (UTC)

Wednesday Night Fever

I noticed that you created the article Wednesday Night Fever. Do you plan on expanding the one source article? This appears to happen often though - quite frequent actually. You get the credit of creating the article - while another editor feels obliged to save the article. They are the editors who spend their valuable editing time adding actual content.Rain the 1 00:03, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

This is a brand new program which has only aired for one week. I will add information as it becomes available and as the program develops. I'm not trying to get the "credit" for starting articles. I'm creating them because I have found a certain amount of information and I want to make it available to anyone looking for the information and the references. As more information is released or published, I expand the articles or I find that others are able to find it from other sources. Isn't Wikipeda supposed to be a collaboration? J Bar (talk) 01:25, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

I could not agree more that Wikipedia is a collaboration. But I view your contributions to the collaboration borderline disruptive. I am confused because you have been on Wikipedia for over seven years. It is one sentence stubs when more information is actually available. You also throw in bare references which are no help in cases of link rot. Surely you know how to format a standard citation after seven years. It cannot continue for another seven years so I will be contacting an admin to offer advice on improving your contributions. If that one source about Wednesday Night Fever is the only one available (which it is not) then you probably should not have created it seeings as it would not pass WP:GNG.Rain the 1 22:01, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

If more information is available, I do my best to include it. However, there are only so many hours in every day. How one earth is creating a new article with basic information, which other editors can then expand, be disruptive to anyone? Surely you must have better things to do than dobbing people in for not instantly creating articles to your standard. If editors keep trying to prevent other editors from making contributions like this, then wikipedia will be the poorer. J Bar (talk) 22:14, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

I do not want to prevent you from making contributions. I am suggesting that instead of making three stubs for another editor to clean up - why not concentrate on improving one article. Then that is one less editor will have to clean up and concentrate on another project. I think one quality article is better than three stubs with one sentence. It is not to my standard, it is a standard accepted by the general community. I suggested it was disruptive for this reason. It distracts other editors - like I came across Blair Venn yesterday which you created without any sources - I spent some time to add a couple of sources because it was an easy target for a PROD. It needs work, but atleast there are some sources proving notability. I obviously have better things to do than "dobbing" on editors, such as creating and improving articles. I am only trying to help to be honest because I think you are more than capable of creating some sound work on here with your Australian TV knowledge and interests.Rain the 1 23:23, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

That's exactly what I'm trying to do but you have to appreciate that some editors don't have as much time as you do, to devote to editing. Real life gets in the way. Half the time I'm fighting battles with other editors on wikipedia who want to revert or delete my contributions. It is extremely frustrating when all you want to do is provide information that is worthwhile. J Bar (talk) 01:13, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

How come Anemone Projectors can never do wrong?

Some users on here seem to treasure Anemone Projectors and treat him like a god. Why does he deserve this sort of praise? I mean, he hardly ever does anything except lurk around Wikipedia, and randomly pop up with a (sometimes rude and insulting) comment and go again. If I was in charge, I would block him. 94.2.117.205 (talk) 11:26, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Please do not make attacks on users, 94.2.117.205, as you could find yourself blocked. Tinamckintyre23 (Come and talk!) 17:51, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

lol –anemoneprojectors– 09:07, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Why the lol, Anemone? Tinamckintyre23 (talk) 09:44, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Is it because of the ridiculous nature of the comment? Tinamckintyre23 (talk) 13:06, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

I really do not understand the need to bait an admin via my talk page. This is so boring it does not deserve a reply. A simple checkuser can confirm what we already know.Rain the 1 20:34, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Omg...this user makes me laugh...not obvious much! George^Ping! 22:43, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Tell me about it. Yet they are still allowed to cause drama with their free pass. It really is beyond me.Rain the 1 22:49, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Annoying me now...Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Tinamcintyre23...whoops! George^Ping! 23:02, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Sasha

Moved from User talk:Raintheone/Sasha Bezmel

Hello:) Your Heath Braxton Article was deleted and changed to an official article, How did you achieve this and could you please do it with your Sasha Bezmel article as this article is much harder to find, many thanks and great work:) LacrymosaSage (talk) 16:57, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	This is for your truly marvellous work on "My Man Music". Thank you for all your help! JuneGloom Talk 00:00, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Brad Willis (Neighbours)

Hello:), Can we please have an updated pic of Brad Willis as Kip Gamblin as we only have the old one from years ago:) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.43.190.95 (talk) 10:22, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Dirk Savage

Hey Rain. I was wondering if you could do me a massive favour...any sources you have for Dirk Savage, could you possible pop them on my draft talk page please? Anything would be a great help. Cheers, George^Ping! 12:27, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

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Sasha Bezmel Submisson

Oh My God! I'm so sorry, I edited your Sasha article in your sandbox and I'm new to wiki and I submitted it and i don't know if I should have:O — Preceding unsigned comment added by LacrymosaSage (talk • contribs) 13:25, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

I really wish you hadn't of done that. We haven't finished working on the article. - JuneGloom Talk 15:09, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Right, I asked about reversing the submission to Articles for Creation and an editor has done that for us. Myself and Raintheone are not far off finishing the article, but sometimes other projects and real-life get in the way. In future, please don't edit other editor's userspace drafts, unless they've told you you can. If you've got questions about a draft then come to the editor's talk page and they can help you out there. I'm going to drop a welcome template off at your talk page, which will give you lots of useful advice. - JuneGloom Talk 15:55, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for sorting this JuneGloom07. As for LacrymosaSage.. I am having a hard time believing that this was all a mistake. It looks planned and the editor appears to have been monitoring my sandboxes.Rain the 1 21:17, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

RainThe1: "You need blocked - so annoying"

(cur | prev) 00:26, 1 August 2013‎ Raintheone (talk | contribs)‎ . . (6,489 bytes) (+49)‎ . . (Undid revision 566647351 by XX-Xiaoyu-Xx (talk) - You need blocked - so annoying) (undo | thank)

Oh right so maintaining the Hollyoaks List of character page is against the rules? Wow didn't realize I wasn't allowed to remove, add or edit things on that page. Didn't know I wasn't allowed to remove the character of Richie Trent as he was killed off the TV Show. Don't worry I won't be helping out here anymore. You got your wish :/ This is the fourth time I've been bullied into leaving here on Wikipedia. Thanks again for making it hard for me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by XX-Xiaoyu-Xx (talk • contribs) 08:37, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

You do not have to leave. I was restoring the information. But it was annoying because I had already added the character back with an explanation. Yet you ignored it and removed it. He was credited for the following episode. It was not the first time you wrongly removed information. I had to leave a note about removing Trevor despite the fact the actor was still filming. You have to know the facts before removing information. Bullied is a gross over reaction. I find the accusation ridiculous to be honest. Anyway, you admitted to using three previous accounts but failed to announce them until now. Rather than leaving, why not stay and learn how to contribute. If editors actually listened and showed willing to learn - there would be a bigger task force and more quality work would eventually be churned out.Rain the 1 21:52, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

ANI

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Character Pictures

Hello, I requested a new image for Bianca Scott on her talk page, you replied "Are you not capable of finding one? If you need some advice. Just take a screen shot and cut a tidy square crop focused on the head area of the character and replace it."

Well I took a screenshot but on the upload form it states:

Please note that by "entirely self-made" we really mean just that. Do not use this section for any of the following: -a scan or photograph you made of a painting, drawing, printed page or other item originally created by somebody else. The copyright belongs to the original creator, not to you. -a screenshot or other kind of capture of a video, computer screen, TV programme or other kind of visual media. -a picture you created by modifying or copying some other picture or by combining several preexisting pictures made by somebody else. -a picture given to you by somebody else. -a picture you found somewhere on the Internet. Editors who falsely declare such items as their "own work" will be blocked from editing.

I bolded that part as I am confused as to what to do?????

Cheers and Happy editingI Snip And I Snap:) (talk) 18:34, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

RE Pictures

Thank you for the message on my Talk, it has given me a good idea of what to do in future:) The whole Sasha image thing, don't worry, I wasn't one hundred percent sure anyway and I assure you that any future edits will be my own work. May I ask what way you screenshot your images?, do you use a smartphone and then upload it to your computer? I am sorry for what hassle I have caused and I genuinely don't mean it in the slightest. But I would like to continue learning so thanks very much:) I Snip And I Snap:) (talk) 23:30, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

RE James Fraser (Home and Away)

I have inserted an image into James' character box:) I Snip And I Snap:) (talk) 12:22, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Hey

Hi, just thought I'd check in. Hope you're well. Seems C2k6 is doing the 1988 Neighbours list as well now, so I thought for the collaboration we spoke about previously, we could create either the 1989 or the 1990 list if you like. I think we've probably got enough sources between us. I've already done the 1991 and 1992 lists offline, since I was quite interested in the characters from those, particularly Guy Carpenter. I should probably add them to my userspace some time, but I want to get another couple of drafts finished first. Oh, I know you've edited Corrie articles in the past, so you might be interested in this: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Coronation Street characters (1967). - JuneGloom  :Talk 19:09, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Yo. I like the idea of helping with those Neighbours lists. I noticed the Corrie deletion discussion yesterday and earlier I dug some old books out of the pile to see which characters have potential. So I will be helping there too. I just think they probably need some work put into them.Rain the 1 12:56, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

I just thought, if you ever want to recreate Pam Willis's article, I've got a few articles that would come in handy. I can't remember if I sent them to you already though. I know I used one of them for Doug's article and there was way more info for Pam in it. - JuneGloom Talk 00:05, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

I do not think I have had any articles for Pam's article. Might be interesting, I know I thought it was a shame for her to lose the article. And you did such a good job on making one for Doug again.Rain the 1 15:43, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

While working on Geoff's article, I noticed a few sources for that Roman guy. Are you working on an article for him at all? - JuneGloom Talk 16:31, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

your AIV report 8/18

Hi - thanks for reporting the IP vandal to AIV.

We cannot indefinitely block an IP address for vandalism only. Because IP addresses change, and this one looks to be a shared IP address, you should always give a warning to an IP editor, because today's editor might not be tomorrow's user. It never hurts to warn and the warnings usually get people to stop their disruptive editing. That might be why he stopped today - he got a warning from another editor.

I had this thought: it occurs to me that I protected a bunch of those Hollyoaks articles several months ago against IP disruption. I don't have the time to look through my protection logs right now, but if you do you could check to see if this is the same guy or a similar vandal. Thanks again for your report. KrakatoaKatie 02:19, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for looking into it. I think when you have been here for years now and again warning become a chore when they do not generally stop the disruption. Sometimes they do though. I will take a look and get back to you. It is great that you took the time and remembered helping before.Rain the 1 19:55, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

SummerDale Bay Street

Effectively Saving time creating three new sections! :)

Had a bit of a run over with Scott's, if he had more development the story could easily chopped. Ben Freeman packed a lot into the role over the course of 8 years and I'm unsure what to get rid of. Also, are you done with the development on Todd and VJ, in order for me to add the SLs? I'll see what I can do with Syd but I am no Magician (although I did bang out H&A '95 in two days flat). User:Conquistador2k6 17:14 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Just pointing out that there are few botches in the sources in Chloe's article. (missing urls) Conquistador2k6 14:51 27 August 2013 (UTC)

One was missing the original URL. But the second error message was a journal citation that had the "accessdate" field filled in. Now someone must have made changes to the template showing little regard for all the work that now has to be done. It is a shame who wanted change did not bother to change the probably 800000000 sources in use with the field filled in or perhaps create a bot so those horrid error messages do not appear. As for Todd and VJ - if the storylines are short and of acceptable size, I do not see why not. I will not be finished anytime soon. And what ever help you offer in the ED articles, much appreciated.Rain the 1 19:38, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Brilliant. I already have Alex in a draft using the stuff we already have in the list to so feel free to wander in and add the new material. Does the new stuff extend to Liam and Stephanie or any other mid-late 90s guests? BTW I readded Todd's storylines for his article after weeks of agonising, If they're too long tell me what to chop and they're gone. Conquistador2k6 12:36 5 October 2013 (UTC)

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Your reverting was wrong

	Your reverting was wrong
	Duncan button is returning to hollyoaks later 2013 :) Wigglewoggle (talk) 18:37, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

I know he is returning to Hollyoaks Later. You must feel mighty pleased to think you are right, hence the celebratory banner. I was correct to revert you. You added unsourced information to the article - yet again. You are a rubbish editor whose every edit has to be corrected or removed. You are not a team player and think the guidelines do not apply to you. So I have no interest in assuming good faith where you edit.Rain the 1 20:40, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Your reverting was wrong... AGAIN!

Joseph Thompson and Dean Aspen are returning to Hollyoaks/Hollyoaks Later as it was said by digital spy. Please can you stop removing everything I write that I don't put links on. Even if I do, the correct thing to do is to put the link up, not revert the information. I also know how to put a link into an article and I personally believe that you are not a team player. In addition, if you don't like the edit to Leanne Holiday, then you won't mind removing Claire Devine's image by Rui78901.

I echo the response given to the above editor. Assuming that is not your sock of course.Rain the 1 21:19, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

I think that you are actually quite rude and rather much a bully. If you think your not, then why did you say 'You are a rubbish editor whose every edit has to be corrected or removed' to Wigglewoggle. Think before you type.

I do not think that was the behavior of a bully. It was a response to someone attempting to belittle me with as highly visible wikilove template on talk page. I think it was a fair observation. I work alongside many editors on this project and had no problems. The only ones I have encountered are those trying to cause drama in the light of their own failure to accept that they were being disruptive. If you do not like my response to disruptive editing make the transition to constructive editing. If you would like advice regarding why I have been reverting edits - then please read WP:LEAD, WP:OR, WP:CITE, WP:SOAPS, WP:FAIRUSE. A useful insight to help if anything.Rain the 1 21:43, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

I want to start over, im sorry if i have offended you in anyway its just it takes me time to do things and then when it gets removed I get annoyed. Im still learning how to use wikipedia and i do take note of your comments but sometimes i feel the comment is quite rude. Please accept my apologies. I also wanted to confirm the me and Wigglewoggle have no relation

I accept your apology, of course we can start over. We can work together on here and it actually an enjoyable environment at times. However, I did report you to an admin prior to this. But your last message will obviously play in your favour.Rain the 1 22:14, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Hey

Been a while! Just wanted to drop you a note, tell you i'm still alive. Saw your message on my talk page, 2013 list went downhill because i didn't keep it in check, had lots of stuff happening in real life and been really busy. Hope you're alright, i'm going to create Hollyoaks later series 6 page tomorrow, not sure how active i will actually be now though. D4nnyw14 (talk) 22:29, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi, can we use Soap Sqwuak as a ref or not? D4nnyw14 (talk) 17:54, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

Arghhh! You angry about HO? Assuming you've seen the e4 episode? D4nnyw14 (talk) 23:47, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Quick question, do: [20] and [21] seem reliable? Can't determine whether the author is employed by Yahoo or just publishes her opinion like a blog on their as she's part of the ' Yahoo Contributor Network '. Struggling to find any Later reception, getting desperate with this i think! D4nnyw14 (talk) 23:29, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Im sorry? did i miss something?

referring to your message earlier today I think you need to calm down. all i did was make an edit on the duncan button page which the infomation was correct, if there was no source you could have just added it and not reverted it. p.s i didnt try to 'belittle you' — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wigglewoggle (talk • contribs) 15:21, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

The info may have been correct, but it was unsourced. Which begs the question: why didn't you add a source for it in the first place? You had to have read the info somewhere (either online or offline), so when you went to add it to the article, why did you not add the source at the same time? Why should it be down to Raintheone to do it for you? I would recommend that you take a look at the links Raintheone provided to the other user above, as well as WP:VERIFY. - JuneGloom Talk 22:03, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Re:Seb

Fine. I was acting on June's advice. Has something new turned up?

Conquistafor2k6 12:58 19 October 2013 (UTC)

I said he could go in the list if any further development info cannot be found. That was really a cue to go look for some or ask Rain for help. I haven't sorted my Highbeam account out yet, but there could be something there. - JuneGloom Talk 12:26, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

As JuneGloom states - always best to look first than last. There is obviously something out there for him.Rain the 1 12:33, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Hello

I will keep an eye on those editors you reported to me. Thanks :)--5 albert square (talk) 17:51, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

The editors from weeks ago? Cool - thank you. They are better behaved now - I think anyway. There has been more disruption than ever on here. Please watch the situation at Clare Devine when it is unprotected too - such a shame it was protected, but necessary. Hope you are well.Rain the 1 17:54, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Yes I am well thanks, all is good apart from my phone line currently playing up, means I can't always get online until I get the chance to get a BT engineer out. Only thing is £130 if they deem this to be my fault because according to their system it's not their fault! :(--5 albert square (talk) 18:06, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Way too expensive is that! lol It should be a free repair surely!Rain the 1 22:04, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Just A Chat:)

I seemed to have caused you trouble in the past (Character Images)....I was Learning and have realised all of my mistakes. I will not update unnecessary character images anymore (although when I Started I Inserted some awfully pixelated and blurred images for Jack Holden and Tasha Andrews which I recently changed to clearer, much better ones). I will never ever insert images to lists again (when I learned how to do it I just got carried away, again sorry), however I will continue to insert images into character articles that have none (Recently I inserted images to Kim Hyde and Pippa Saunders), anyway I just wanted to apologise for any inconvenience I have caused you and JuneGloom in the past. Many Thanks, MoodySnippleSnappleI Snip And I Snap:) (talk) 21:59, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

That is okay. You were over eager with the picture updates, sure. But you had good intentions. No need to apologise, but very nice of you. The key to our success is discussion and considering other editors you work with. So all good.Rain the 1 22:04, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Just a small question.

Hi, just have a small question and I was hoping you could answer it, I was just looking over the Hollyoaks character's page and I've noticed all your edits are extremely reliable and always correct. So my question to you is this, Trevor Royle is listed in the recurring characters list, should he not be listed in the main character list? I ask because he is in the main show's intro titles. Sorry if this question sounds dumb. Thanks, Sky.Leticia-Sky (talk) 14:09, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Leanne Holiday

Hi, I have updated Leanne Holiday's image as the old one was a bad picture. Can you please tell me how to suggest a Wikipedia page to be written as I think Nana McQueen, Maxine Minniver, Sienna Blake and Jim McGinn should have there own pages by now. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by IAidanBarry (talk • contribs) 14:56, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

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Harvey Ryan and Bianca Scott (Home and Away)

I was just checking to see if it would be okay to remove Harvey Ryan and Bianca Scott from the H&A "Departing Characters" section of the "Home and Away Characters List", there has only been speculation at Bianca's exit and I haven't seen any news on Harvey leaving the soap at all, cheers:) I Snip And I Snap:) (talk) 11:54, 1 November 2013 (UTC) Oops forgot to mention that neither have references

Er, yes they do have references. I added Harvey the other day with a source stating the actor had finished filming with the show. - JuneGloom Talk 23:47, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

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Hollyoaks characters

Hi there, I have noticed that you have been doing quite a lot on Hollyoaks related links and was wondering if I would be alright to add links to the homes of the characters.

e.g.

Raintheone/Archive 4

The first infobox is what the current view looks like. The second infobox is what I would like to change it to.

Raintheone/Archive 4

Basically what I am trying to say is would it be alright for me to add a link for the home section on each character so it would like the second infobox?

Thanks, --#Soaper1234 (talk) 18:41, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

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Neighbours

Will you be able to add the Tony stuff to his section in my '87 list in storage as you have since found a source Conquistador2k6 5 December 2013 21:35 (UTC)?

It was not for Tony - if you look at the edit you will notice it was actually for another character. lolRain the 1 20:15, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

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HO: Dom and Tony

Are they half-brothers through their mom or through his dad? Wikipedia says they are through their dad, but a scene I watched said that it was through their mom. Did they change it? Arjoccolenty (talk) 03:59, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Reverting edits in Shane McCutcheon article

Is there any reason why you reverted the entire article instead of just removing the portions you say I added that were unsourced or "fancruft?" I put a source for the Interrogation Tapes (the Youtube video originally shown on Showtime's website) and I separated the paragraphs so it was clear what season they were a part of. In addition to that most of the changes I made were to make the article more clear (Alicia Leigh Willis' character's name wasn't "Lover Cindi," it was Cindi Tucker, for example) and there were several misspelled words in the Storylines section I corrected you reverted to their original incorrect spellings. Amducker (talk) 13:25, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Kathleen-Angel's Name

Hey there, Raintheone.

I have a question for you regarding Kathleen-Angel.

If she was christened as "Kathleen Khloe McQueen", then why is she being called by the name "Kathleen-Angel" and not being called by the name that Theresa gave to her and the name with which she was baptised?

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

P.S. My name's Shannon by the way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.121.18.48 (talk) 21:47, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Hello there. Kathleen-Angel was originally named Angel by Carmel. Prior to Theresa taking her back, Kathleen got her friend Lenny McLaverty to unofficially christen her using the name "Kathleen Khloe McQueen". But that was carried out in the kitchen of the McQueen's house and was not real considering it was Kathleen was setting scam up with Lenny. But when Theresa took her back from Carmel she compromised and officially named her Kathleen-Angel. Unfortunately in what was only a comedy storyline some people changed the name. That was a long time ago and people kept on changing the name. Causing no end of trouble for editors paying attention to the soap operas they watch then edit about. But yes - I hope that helps answer your question. Atleast you asked the question, rather than change it like most do. lolRain the 1 00:27, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

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Merry Christmas!

Have a good one! :)

Conquistador2k6 25 December 2013 00:25 (UTC)

Merry Christmas to you too! =] Rain the 1 23:16, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

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Are you seriously telling me that Ian Beale, Lucy Beale, Max Branning and Billy Mitchell are villains? Either you are joking or you have not watched EastEnders. Adultery does not count as villainy and being a Scrooge doesn't count as being evil.--AngieWattsFan (talk) 03:53, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

I have watched the show since you soiled your pampers. So please do not act like I never switched the TV on before.Rain the 1 04:10, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

I have watched the show since 1985 when I was 6 years old. You sure about that? Again explain how Ian Beale, Lucy Beale, Max Branning, Billy Mitchell or Roxy Mitchell are 'villains'. Or maybe you don't know what the word 'villain' means?--AngieWattsFan (talk) 05:31, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

EastEnders villains.

We can work together and compromise or I will revert. Please give me explanations for the characters or after 24 hours I will make my decision. Look at the dictionary definition, check your sources and use your general knowledge of the show. We can make a compromise but work with me. Thank you!--AngieWattsFan (talk) 04:21, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Reverting is a choice that can bare consequences. In this case it would. Acting against consensus is not attractive on this encyclopedia.Rain the 1 04:44, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Making stuff up and putting on Wikipedia is also wrong.--AngieWattsFan (talk) 05:31, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

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Re: Sarah

Probably a cock-up on their part. She was Thompson throughout her time on H&A except for ep 4000 where she was O'Neale. Conquistador2k6 5 January 2014 01:23 (UTC)

RE:Hollyoaks

Okay thanks, I will when I can. Yoshi58724 (talk) 19:48, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Sahira Shah

I'm pretty sure you reversed the deletion template location. Just confirm that you want to move the sandbox over the redirect (and not the other way around) and I'll take care of it:-)--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:06, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

I just went ahead. You couldn't have meant the other way around.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:16, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Deletion

Hi I am new to Wikipedia and I have noticed that you keep reverting my edits. I have made edits correcting grammar and you have reverted these changes. Could you please explain to me you are doing this. Thanks.Coronationstreetfan16 (talk) 17:25, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

I owe you little explanation seeings as you went ahead and changed everything again. I have little time for those who want to bring nothing to the the table. We can update storylines ten a penny - but what we do need is actual content editors. Those who will listen, learn - like we all did when we first joined - work together to make Wikipedia a better place. Unfortunately you wanted to only add storylines and it was all excessive in detail. An entire paragraph detailing one episode gives too much weight suggesting it was most important - and serves to clutter the article up. These are not character bios they are meant to be articles explaining the subject in a clear and concise manner.Rain the 1 00:36, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

If you want to make wikipedia a better place then the articles need to be up to date. I added information on two articles because they were eighteen months behind. On another one of my edits you undid you reverted back to a sentence that made no sense and that I had corrected. You should have looked at what you were reverting instead of just going ahead and doing it anyway. If an article is not up to date it is not explaining the subject in a clear or concise matter.Coronationstreetfan16 (talk) 18:53, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

If you feel an article is outdated then feel free to add sourced content. This includes reasons behind storylines, filming, production and characterisation information. You can also add casting and reception information. Discuss auditions, casting requirements, note awards, what critics have said. All real world information. And there is plenty out there for Owen - all more important than over updating his storylines. Take a look at some more complete articles. You will notice the storylines are small in comparison. Did you know that previously masses of soap opera articles were deleted with huge consensus because they were useless dumping grounds for fans adding tonnes of boring, excessive storyline detail. It that is not a Wikipedia article, it is a fansite bio. It has taken years for me and a team of other people giving their time to create, expand and restore so many articles categorised under this genre. But it took time to gain approval. Why should we let people destroy that by turning the clock back. Adding masses of in-universe information is actually a rule breaker - so do not keep violating Wikipedia guidelines on writing about fiction. I would not mind if it was cut down and the errors were corrected. We do not mind correct errors. But if people go around updating over 10 character articles - it would be easier to revert.Rain the 1 19:45, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Like you I just want to make the articles better. It is not my intention to violate any guidelines, I just want to get them up to date. I was annoyed by the fact that you had reverted changes where I had improved the grammar and removed sentences that did not make sense. Hopefully in the future we can work together to improve articles. Coronationstreetfan16 (talk) 19:55, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

You have restored Beth Tinker's article once again. But three editors actually disapprove (see edit history). That is not team work. Unless you plan on expanding it, then it would be a different story. You could spend a couple of hours adding in (sourced) information. It is a shame because I am condensing Owen's storyline section right now - so it can be updated neatly in future. But am I wasting my time?Rain the 1 20:09, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

I am planning to expand it. Talking of team work, maybe you would like to help instead of just criticising it. I am not as experienced at editing as you are so it would be a help if you could contribute to the article. I have added plenty of sourced information to it already, which you would have seen if you had looked at the references. Coronationstreetfan16 (talk) 20:16, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Right so. I have done a little tidy. Your turn now. In the "References" section sources number 6, 7, 8, 9, 11 and 12 are bare. They need formatting.

<ref>{{cite web|last=Add reporters surname|first=Add reporters first name|title=Add the title of the article|url=Add the link/url of the article|work=Add the name of the website|publisher=Add their publisher/owner|accessdate=Add today's date|date=Add the date the article was published}}</ref>

I have added the above template for you to copy and paste in place of the bare url when you edit the article. Fill in each field for each of those sources mentioned above. Then they will appear as the other correctly formatted links do. It is easy after about three tries.

Also the "External links" section has not even been filled in. Takes two minutes to add a IMDB link, an official ITV Corrie profile link etc.Rain the 1 20:25, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Rob Donovan

You keep deleting this article and are happy to point out all the problems on it but make no effort to fix them. He is a notable character and so far I've been the only one to try and make a good article. Are there faults on it? Yes. But it's better to have an article with faults than no article at all.Coronationstreetfan16 (talk) 15:59, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Your edit summary suggested you wrote the article. Well other editors wrote the good parts. I wrote some of the original list content. This is not even up for discussion. The article will be restored to the list soon enough. It will be locked and no article. Shame that. Your a sockpuppet anyway - so have no business logging onto Wikipedia.Rain the 1 17:48, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Janet King (fictional character)

The DYK project (nominate) 15:18, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Hollyoaks referencing

I noticed you going through the references an improving them, I was going to go and do the ones that you hadn't done, but I couldn't find the archive date, where did you get it so I know for future reference? Yoshi58724 (talk) 17:06, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Hello there. Thank you for adding references to the section as they are much needed. I had some time to spare so did the majority of them. If you would like to do the rest, that is great. To archive a link you need to visit WebCite and put the url in and a valid email address. Then it will archive the link, you copy and paste it into the citation and just put the date you archived the link. I only do this because I used to find a lot of obscure or useless sources were getting deleted - so it just preserves them - but not 100% important.Rain the 1 23:07, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll go do that now. I was also considering creating some character articles for Hollyoaks and was wondering where some good sources to find information would be and what to type in to find that information. Yoshi58724 (talk) 19:11, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

I always find Digital Spy to be very useful to start. Then you have the soap magazines Inside Soap, All About Soap and Soaplife. TVTimes used to be good but they stopped their Hollyoaks interviews. Searching The Free Library is often very useful. Jaci Stephen's Daily Mail column always throws up reception information. I use HighBeam too, but I am not sure they give them out to newer members currently until they gain enough contribs. Out of interest, which characters would you have been interested in creating? I know Jim McGinn could have scraped an article.Rain the 1 21:23, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Surprisingly Jim was one I was thinking of as he was my favourite character. I was also thinking Jono and Will. Are there any archives for the Soap Magazines, because I can't find any info from them yet. Yoshi58724 (talk) 20:39, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Oh no there are not any archives. We wish. A few of us have been buying them for the past few years. Will is also a great choice. I could never be bothered to make one.Rain the 1 22:30, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

We could collaborate on the articles, as I don't think I'll be able to get my hands on the older ones that deal with the characters. Yoshi58724 (talk) 22:54, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Yes, sure thing. Always good when it is team work. Let me know when you need help with any.Rain the 1 01:39, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Awesome, I'll start a workpage and get some internet references, if you can so ones from the magazines that'd be good. I'll also work on a draft for the storylines section. Yoshi58724 (talk) 17:02, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

I noticed you have began work on the draft. One thing I noticed - and it tripped me up when I first joined. The lead section should be completed last because it is meant to sum up the article in a nut shell. Another thing is that you mentioned Mercedes and gave her too much weight. He is not Mercedes' lawyer for the duration so mentioning it so early on first could give the wrong impression. And the last thing, no sources in the lead as sourced content belongs in the article.Rain the 1 23:12, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Also - was Trevor listed before Sonny earlier? I think you could be right?Rain the 1 23:18, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

I saw him listed before Dodger and seeing as they go alphabetical from last names I'd assume he is now main as I doubt Dodger has been made recurring. And thanks I'll make some changes, feel free to change it if you want as well. Yoshi58724 (talk) 16:33, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Would the image of Jim here be acceptable to upload to Wikipedia for the page? Yoshi58724 (talk) 01:44, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you, but I haven't gotten a response and I'd like to know as I don't want to break any uploading rules for Wikipedia. Yoshi876 (talk) 22:47, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Oh sorry I completely missed this - not like me! It is fine, any screen shot will do though. Crop it so it is his face, just link the source when you upload if you use that one though.Rain the 1 23:11, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

I decided to go with another images, that I haven't uploaded, however it is in a .png format and not a jpg format. Would it still be allowed to upload this? If you want I can upload to imgur and link you from there. Yoshi876 (talk) 16:43, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

It will not matter. It is fine. If it bothers you - open in paint and save as a jpg.Rain the 1 19:42, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK for TVGuide.co.uk

Another good hook. Cheers. Victuallers (talk) 09:52, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Re: H&A

Dialogue refers to her as Thompson and she was credited as such when she came back in a guest spot for Shane and Angel's wedding so IS were barking up the wrong tree.

Anyway, I've kind of been on a relaxed editing kick as of late. I'd be happy if I could get 1999 and 2007 finished. Judith and Roman are the only real respective obstacles for each.

Conquistador2k6 16 March 2014 23:11 (UTC)

I do have Roman's article in the works but with a paltry 8 sources, it just hasn't been touched for some time. Some development with his relationships with Nicole, Martha, Charlie and Leah would be a real kick up the arse for the article. I just wish there were some more archive sites for Judith (was gutted when I tried to raid the archives of the official site and came up with nothing) or at least some Anna Hruby interviews in newspapers relating to her time on the show.

Conquistador2k6 16 March 2014 23:27 (UTC)

Frank Rogers (Brookside)

Good job cleaning Frank Rogers (Brookside) up and adding sources. Any chance you want to do the same on the other characters? Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 12:54, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Yeah - sure I will look into it. Just purchased a couple of book sources too help.Rain the 1 00:21, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Replied

Hi, just wanted to say I replied to the message to you left on my talk page. --#Soaper1234 (talk) 18:17, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

List of Casualty characters

Further to your reversion, could you kindly clarify the common name note? There has been some discussion of the naming for those characters with nicknames on Soaper1234's talk page. The naming I changed to is that which has been in place for a long time and was change recently. In my view, it is most accurate to show both the nickname and also full name together to cover all bases. Thanks. Adamiow (talk) 19:54, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

If these characters had their own articles - what would you name the article? If Dixie had an article would you title it - "Kathleen 'Dixie' Dixon", "Dixie Dixon" or "Dixie (Casualty)". When Fletch arrives in Holby City I will be able to judge just how often he is called Adrian and be leaving or moving in accordance to his common name - not just in the show - but from the real world perspective.. looking in magazines and online article. Sometimes characters are more often referred to by their nickname alongside a second name - Dodger Savage or Toadfish Rebecchi. Sometimes they are referred most commonly by only their first name - Jono (Hollyoaks), Fletch (Hollyoaks) and Bombhead. You use WP:COMMONNAME and keep consistency to avoid confusion - not only in the article but related articles and lists. Casualty for some reason has half their characters with nicknames - could be a tricky one. But a shows titles do not have an exclusive handle on Wikipedia.Rain the 1 20:55, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Colette Sheward

Seems we were both pretty creative yesterday (my effort), but you did an awesome job on Colette's article. I hope you're taking it to DYK? - JuneGloom Talk 13:14, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

I noticed. No doubt her on-screen antics will create a character article before too long. TY - I will create a hook tonight. =]Rain the 1 20:38, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Puppetry allegations

Hi there, just seen your accusations on the admin page. I've replied to them, but I'd be happy to prove my 'innocence'. I can show IP addresses or whatever will prove I only operate this one account, I've replied on the admin page so look there for more details. Alex250P (talk)

I noticed. You gained replies.Rain the 1 00:28, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Colette Sheward

The DYK project (nominate) 10:22, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Lomax family

Hi, I need the photo of the Lomax family in one of their first scenes at the hospital around Tegan and I don't know how to upload a photo. Could you please help me?

Thanks, --#Soaper1234 (talk) 16:46, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi once again Rain, was just wondering if you could help me with a family tree for the Lomaxes as I'm sure how to make one.

Thank you every so much, --#Soaper1234 (talk) 19:38, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

I have never made one. I guess there is probably software available? Perhaps there are generators online? If it were me I would make one on Paint.Rain the 1 21:12, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)Template:Chart is used to create family trees, that's if you can figure it out (I haven't yet). - JuneGloom Talk 21:23, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks to both of you. I have had a look at the page and it looks very confusing :/ --#Soaper1234 (talk) 11:01, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

I would suggest copying one already in use, and experimenting with it in a sandbox. There is one in the Ferreira family article. - JuneGloom Talk 16:42, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Zosia March

The DYK project (nominate) 11:25, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

List of Casualty characters

Don't want to ruin your lovely post, but Zoe was a porter for a day with Max! Tee hee. :) Adamiow (talk) 11:10, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

If it was for one day, it's hardy defining. A week maybe... - JuneGloom Talk 19:40, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

I did not see the episode. But I am guessing she was not employed as the porter. Did she lose a bet or just help out?Rain the 1 22:49, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

She was seeing what Max's job was like and learnt that it was more than just pushing people around in the end. June - just to confirm, I was joking around with this - I wasn't intending on adding it to the list! Adamiow (talk) 20:56, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Trust me to pick the character who has tried her hand at the job. lolRain the 1 21:06, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Hollyoaks

Hi Raintheone,

Just wondering if there is a place where you could request a place for Hollyoaks articles to be created. I wanted Nana McQueen, Jim McGinn, Will Savage, Maxine Minniver and Patrick Blake to have their own articles.

Also, I have been updating a lot of images on articles recently are they all okay or do they need to be changed.

Thanks, IAidanBarry — Preceding unsigned comment added by IAidanBarry (talk • contribs) 10:13, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

You cannot request articles to be created as such. You have to do some of the work. Probably best to wait until another editor creates them. I know someone is currently creating Jim's article. I plan to create Sienna's this year. Some of the new ibox images are okay, but mostly the ones already present are more than okay.Rain the 1 10:27, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

What am I on about? Sienna already has an article. A very poor effort of an article though.Rain the 1 12:30, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

help and information

Hi Raintheone, im pobtron u corrected my edit of little jimmy corkhill. The reason i linked him was because i knew there was a "little jimmy corkhill" page but when i tried to it went to a page entitled "little jimmy" which was about something completely different. Can u please explain how i can stop this from happening in the future,id be much obliged.

Hello, I added the citation tag as you should have sourced that it was only a short stint. I'd appreciate if you did not threaten me, thanks.

EastEnders Pages

I did have pictures on them, but I deleted them because of the users like you. I was worried about copyright. I love Wikipedia, but some of you users put me off it. I started those articles, for them to be finished by users like yourself, as I am new to this site. I would prefer some advice on how to make them better, rather than telling me "they're terrible".

Thankyou... --TheCoker (talk) 10:41, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

OK, but I was already in the middle of learning more... do you know if these are alright to keep on wikipedia - File:Babe Smith (Promo).png, File:Fiona "Tosh" Mackintosh (Promo).png and File:Pam Coker (Promo).png?

Thankyou... --TheCoker (talk) 14:24, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Re: List

I've restored Ken with the several sources but There seems to a lot left to do. Are you sure he can be salvaged? Conquistador2k6 4 June 2014 13:22 (UTC)

DYK for Dominic Copeland

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:03, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/The Night We Called It a Day

Please see note on your DYK review. Yoninah (talk) 01:01, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Anita Roy's half-brother

On the Wikipedia article infobox for Anita Roy from Hollyoaks, it says she has a half-brother named Sanjay. When was that referenced? Arjoccolenty (talk) 03:00, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Nah it is lies. No one knows what Eva's other children are called because she only revealed she had other children when she got into the the Taxi to leave Hollyoaks.Rain the 1 12:35, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Nikki Warrington

Gatoclass (talk) 10:46, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Question about Sandy

When Sandy was "pretending" to leave in a Hollyoaks episode, she said that she was gonna go and stay with the boys aunt Marge. Also when Robbie was sent away to live with his aunt and uncle, they were given names of "Ken" and "Jean". Are these people blood relatives? Arjoccolenty (talk) 01:19, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Well? Any thoughts on this? Arjoccolenty (talk) 01:15, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Jebediah McQueen

Who is he? It says he is Myra's half brother but has there ever been any mention of him? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Braveheart5050 (talk • contribs) 10:12, 17 July 2014 (UTC) Never heard of him. That will be another made up character some hoax editors slip in. If you could remove him from all of them that would be great.Rain the 1 23:47, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Why have you removed louis mcqueen he was in hollyoaks later? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Braveheart5050 (talk • contribs)

I must have removed him by mistake when I was deleting lines, I never even noticed lol.Rain the 1 20:30, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Busy?

If you are too busy to answer my question then I'm sorry for disturbing you. Arjoccolenty (talk) 20:16, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

"Marge" is not an actual character. Ken and Jean did appear in the show for one or two episodes.Rain the 1 20:30, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

So should they be in the boys info boxes? Arjoccolenty (talk) 20:34, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Well they were Robbie & Jason's aunt and uncle - but we do not know if they are related to the rest. Sandy didn't act like either one of them were her brother or sister either. Strange that it was never made clear on-screen. So I would be careful on adding them at all.Rain the 1 21:49, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

info boxes

Why did you delete Sandy roscoe etc info boxes? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oscarswhiskers (talk • contribs) 17:43, 7 August 2014 (UTC) Infoboxes are useful to offer a concise rundown of any important information a reader would otherwise have to search through a long article or list entry to find out. In this case it is a small paragraph entry so it is too repetitive. Also in list entries that are small, the inclusion of an infobox causes breaks and layout issues. It is general housekeeping.Rain the 1 18:38, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Ugly Heart

Harrias ^talk 14:07, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Changing the link of Zoe Hanna

Hi Rain, A page was recently created for the character, Zoe Hanna - Casualty here. It was quite poor, but I have more content and cleaned it up now. I was wondering if you could tell me how to change the link so that when you type in Zoe Hanna it goes to the page and not her section on Characters of Casualty.

Thanks #Soaper1234 (talk) 10:22, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

The article should have been created at Zoe Hanna instead of Zoe Hanna (Casualty), as there's only one subject with that name. @AnemoneProjectors: Can you fix this? - JuneGloom Talk 16:44, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

I've done that for you! –anemoneprojectors– 16:54, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks AP. Problem solved Soaper! - JuneGloom Talk 19:01, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi @AnemoneProjectors: and @JuneGloom07:, was wondering if you could do the same to Guy Self (character) #Soaper1234 (talk) 19:49, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Guy's already been sorted. I noticed it earlier. - JuneGloom Talk 19:52, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Miss Rosa

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

HO: Myra's father?

Is Myra's father Unknown or is it Reggie? On the 28th August 2014 episode ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8s9IuSQ0q8&index=1&list=UUdAkhLFcH1JTqsTk0zzx88Q ), John Paul referred to Reggie as his grandfather. Does this mean that Myra is Reggie's daughter as well? Arjoccolenty (talk) 04:41, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

I think that was mentioned by Nana sometime? So probably.Rain the 1 22:25, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Good, because I visited the McQueen family tree and it said that Kathleen's father was a guy named Willy Trotter. I'm reverting it, since I have never heard of the guy AT ALL. Arjoccolenty (talk) 09:57, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

WP:FindMyPast access

You received a Wikipedia email about Wikipedia Library access to WP:FindMyPast about 3 weeks ago. We currently don't have record of your response on the Google form. Please make sure to follow the instructions in that email for obtaining access,Sadads (talk) 15:34, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

I was away for while this was sent so I have now sorted it. My email blocked the original email but I was able to retrieve it, complete the registration and Google doc too. Thank you.Rain the 1 20:01, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Need help with a user

Marlena "Nana" McQueen is a blood McQueen right? Well User:Ziggyroscoe keeps on reverting it back to say that Reggie is a McQueen. When that was never ever stated on screen. Arjoccolenty (talk) 01:45, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Do you even watch hollyoaks? It has never been stated that Nana was a blood McQueen and many times it has been said "Mrs McQueen" why would she change her and her children's names back to her maiden name when her husband died? Also last week she talked about her mother and father, and years ago I remember it being stated that Queenie McQueen was a single mother therefore if Nana was her daughter she wouldn't know her father, so I'm right you're wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ziggyroscoe (talk • contribs) 16:35, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

I do watch it sometimes and if you would have just put that information down in the edit summary then I would have believed you rather than thinking you were just vandalizing the page. Arjoccolenty (talk) 02:22, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

I believe it is all actually original research. There is no concrete evidence to support anything here with a text source. I'm actually tempted to request deletion of the family article. It is causing way too much discussion and small inaccuracies often appear. There have been problems with determining the exact details of the family tree for years.Rain the 1 20:08, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Orange Is the New Black characters

I noticed your fabulous work on Miss Rosa and was hoping that you might have content to add to Piper Chapman and Crazy Eyes (character), which I recently started.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:48, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the compliment. I enjoy creating articles for fictional characters. I am sure there is content that I would like to add sometime. There are a couple of changes I would probably make too. Especially the lead for Crazy Eye's article. So if you wouldn't mind me doing so?Rain the 1 19:50, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Frances James (Winners & Losers)

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:02, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Nana McQueen

Hi, I was wondering what you theory was on whether Nana is a blood McQueen or she married into the family, also I'd like to know what your theory is on whether her children have the same dad (Reggie) or are half siblings? Whatever you think I'll happily add to the pages, I just can't make up my mind what I think! Thanks User:Ziggyroscoe User talk:Ziggyroscoe 20:29, 16 September 2014'(UTC)

(talk page stalker) I really think you need to have a look at WP:ORIGINAL. Anything you add needs to be backed up by a reliable source, not based on a theory or what you think. Looking at the McQueen family article and I see a lot of original research without any sources backing it up. For instance, I believe the characters of Porsche and Celine have only just been announced, so when (and where) were their parents and years of birth mentioned? I see nothing in their casting announcements. I understand that not all of the OR has come from you, but it would be great if you could help fix the problem. Sources help readers trust the encyclopedia more. - JuneGloom Talk 00:52, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

@JuneGloom07 With all due respect I wasn't speaking to you, but Porsche and Celine were said to hVe a younger sister who is 17, and they are the daughters of Myra's sister Reenie, google Hollyoaks Reenie McQueen and the article will come up, also please answer my question is Nana a blood McQueen? plus why do you have talk page stalker in brackets? User:Ziggyroscoe User_Talk:Ziggyroscoe 16:49, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

October 2014

Hey, Raintheone! :) I noticed that my edit was reverted in Holby City (Series 17) and was very confused as to why. However I then noticed you wrote on my talk page. I apologise for a very vague and weak edit summary and completely understand why my edit was reverted, however the episode has been officially released on a trustworthy website. (The website is a spoilers site, but includes accurate information.) Would it be okay if I redid my edit with sourced information? Thank you for correcting me, though! (AHugeHolbyandCasualtyFan (talk) 06:27, 3 October 2014 (UTC))

Your GA nomination of Miss Rosa

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Miss Rosa you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Miyagawa -- Miyagawa (talk) 08:42, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Miss Rosa

The article Miss Rosa you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Miss Rosa for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Miyagawa -- Miyagawa (talk) 08:42, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Doug Graham (Winners & Losers)

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:45, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

You're wrong

Mr and Mrs Rafferty didn't adopt Niall, in fact they didn't exist, his real name was Matthew Brownlow, Jean snow fostered him but he kept his name. He told Steph and the McQueens his name was Niall Rafferty so they didn't twig on who it was, I don't see why you keep reverting all my edits? You should take up knitting if you bored instead of vandalising my edits:) ta babe! User:Ozzykins97 User talk:Ozzykins97 13:13, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the suggestion. Buy me some wool and I will knit. In reference to your edits to Niall Raffarty, the part which lead me to revert the edit was "Matthew McQueen (aka Niall Rafferty)" - we do not include the abbreviation "aka" in the opening sentence of the lead. Plus he was never known as Matthew McQueen on the show so suggesting otherwise is grossly misleading. It was just to bad it took the rest with it. But I should not need to explain myself - everyone knows you are User talk:Ziggyroscoe, a blocked editor.Rain the 1 13:26, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

I'm not? And who is everyone? You and June gloom are the only ones picking on me changing all my edits it's pointless to be honest. Yeah I apologise I shouldn't of put the Matthew McQueen I just assumed that would he would of taken his mums name rather than his dads, but I was wrong and I corrected myself. User:Ozzykins97 User talk:Ozzykins97 13:50, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

And yes you should need to explain yourself if you are going to revert my edits you need a reason. [User:Ozzykins97]] User talk:Ozzykins97 13:52, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Quick opinion

Hello Raintheone, I just wanted your quick opinion on something soap opera character infobox-related. Do the breaks that the actor has taken in duration need to be noted next to their name in the infobox, even when no other actor had played the role in between those breaks, and it's already noted in the article and the info-box? I just find that it adds clutter. E.g. Grace Turner, nobody else played the role after Jennifer Gareis, but another editor is insistent that in this case (and for all other Y&R articles) every single break needs to be noted (I would rather just have it as 1997-2014, as the breaks are already noted in duration. Including all the actor's breaks next to their name makes "Duration" look redundant). What are your thoughts? Is it explicitly said that every single break has to be noted next to the actor's name somewhere? Sorry for the long paragraph, it's not that important but just wanted your say on this. Thanks — Arre 06:16, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Same case for Taylor Hayes (The Bold and the Beautiful) are various other articles. It just adds annoying clutter. — Arre 06:20, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply not been online. No they do not all need to be listed. Just the simplest form. For example Peter Barlow (Coronation Street) has been played most recently on and off by Chris Gascoyne but it lists (2000–14) instead of all the breaks. It is not as common that old actors come back after someone else takes the role. Then list all the dates, for example Sam Mitchell (EastEnders).Rain the 1 22:28, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, no problem. Thanks for your input. So, I think it's safe for me to go ahead and make necessary adjustments. Can you keep a look out on those 2 articles specifically in case my edits are reverted? Thanks. — Arre 08:05, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you again, but I wanted to ask you also - is a caption under the infobox photo necessary for every character article? — Arre 08:21, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)Not if the character has only been played by one actor. - JuneGloom Talk 16:15, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

@JuneGloom07: what about in the case of the Taylor Hayes article I linked. There was a temporary actress only who filled the role briefly; does that mean a caption is required? Also, do temporary actors need to even be noted in the info-box at all?— Arre 07:54, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

I think a caption would be helpful in Taylor's article due to her being played by two different actresses. There's a similar situation at Libby Kennedy. As for temporary actors, I think I may have made up my own rules there. In the case of Libby, her temporary recast was highly publicised and was for around 5-6 weeks. On the hand, her mother Susan was briefly played by another actress in a flashback, and I added that to the casting section, but removed it from the ibox as it was so brief and kinda non-defining. - JuneGloom Talk 16:39, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

I see. Well I have barely found anything on the temporary fill-in actress for Taylor (Really only just one source), I'm assuming it was just one episode or something. But I'm not sure. Another editor was pretty adamant the other actress be in there. I actually had a look at the Libby article, and assumed that the temp. re-cast was only in the info-box because there was quite some coverage of it. — Arre 11:03, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

It might be worth starting a discussion on the talk page if someone disagrees and gain a consensus there. If it was for one or two episodes, I'd consider removing it from the infobox and just mention it in the lead and casting. - JuneGloom Talk 17:48, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

I have been so busy. Glad to see JG has answered your questions. I totally agree, if she appeared in one episode then do not bother mentioning in the ibox. I like to keep the clutter away and all info as little as possible.Rain the 1 22:53, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you again, but the same person is at it again...cluttering info-boxes with every single break in duration next to the actor's name when this info is already present, and adding irrelevant temporary actors in the info-box (Please see the Grace Turner and Taylor Hayes articles I linked). Is there anything I can even do about this? None of this is really specified in great detail in any guidelines, but this user believes that by removing clutter, I am vandalising Wikipedia. It's ridiculous. — Arre 23:15, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

I have acted for the first time tonight. I have left it alone but I noticed a clear disregard of consensus. Everyone at WP soaps knows and agreed that duration less than 12 months is not reflected. And you should start a discussion on the relevant talk pages arguing to remove non-notable stuff. I would participate in such a discussion as this has been an issue for several articles lately.Rain the 1 23:22, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I used to be willing to discuss similar things like this (It's always this same editor), but this person is never willing to budge no matter how many people are in agreement on something. They constantly accuse me of trying to own Wikipedia, make up my own rules and now, they're calling me a vandal. It's just silly. Oh and I just saw right now that they've reverted you already--see what I mean? There's almost no point in dealing with this, but I just can't stand the clutter which they constantly add. It's pointless and I have no idea what to do anymore. They will always revert me even when I'm just doing what has been done. — Arre 23:58, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

I just noticed that actually. They told me consensus does not matter on Wikipedia. How strange, I thought it was a core element of this community based collaboration. I must have been under the wrong impression all these years. TBH, I would not worry.. you have raised the issue now - editors accusing others of owning pages usually have their own agenda anyway. It appears clear to me that this particular one has adopting "my way, or the highway" approach to editing. Which does not fly on Wikipedia. I will alert an admin.Rain the 1 00:12, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Raintheone, I hope you see this. Firstly, hope you are having a great Christmas and sorry to bother you again. Secondly, this user is back again adding clutter to info-boxes. Is there any point in trying to stop them? I did revert them, but it's only a matter of time before they revert me again. Do you have any input on what I should do? — Arre 01:41, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

There is a point in trying to stop disruptive behaviour. If you believe an editor to be disruptive then you should try to prevent the disruption or counteract vandalism. So whatever is still going on, do not let yourself feel intimidated like most were. Stand by what you believe is correct and honest, I cannot see any problem with that on Wikipedia.Rain the 1 03:02, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi Raintheone, sorry for bothering you again... but it seems as if this same user is constantly stalking my every edit just to undo them. He's constantly labeling me as a vandal. Here are some instances: here, All I did was simply remove "Detective" from a character's section heading - because as far as I've seen, we don't really include "Detective" or "Officer" or "Dr." in a person's title - do we? Like the character Paul Williams was a detective for so many years but we never made his title "Detective Paul Williams". Another instance is here, where he calls me a vandal (yet again) when all I did was unlink an actor's name in the caption because it was already being linked in the info-box. Even if I did the wrong thing, do I deserve being called a vandal (apart from the various other names this user has been calling me in the past several months) for this? Like, this user has deterred me from even editing soap-related articles anymore. All they are doing is cluttering up info-boxes with unneeded information (adding irrelevant temp. replacements, adding more breaks that don't make a difference, adding captions even when there is only one actor, etc - It's little things, but this user is making them big issues and upsetting others over it) and accusing myself and others of vandalism constantly. Is there a smart way to handle this without starting something big? Perhaps should I start a discussion at WP:SOAPS about these info-box issues? I just don't know if gaining any type of consensus on these small matters will change this user's mind. Sorry for the lengthy message and my rambling , I'd just like a bit of your opinion. @JuneGloom07: if you have any input as well I would very much appreciate that. Thanks and hope you have a great week :) — Arre

That sounds like WP:WIKIHOUNDING to me. I know you don't want to start something big, but it might be worth getting some admin attention on this, especially if they are deliberately going against consensus. – JuneGloom07 Talk 01:53, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

I have not been around for a while. We do normally include such titles relating to a profession unless the are constantly referenced in media with that name or credited with that name. Doctor Browning in Hollyoaks was never credited as Paul and characters always called him Browning/Doctor Browning. That is the only example I can think of at present as the exception to the rule. There must be many though. PS Do not let him bully you. Report the user until someone listens.Rain the 1 15:41, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Jonathan Kurtiss

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Going to other editors specifically because you know they will agree with you

is NOT allowed on wikipedia. A conversation on your talk page about not following template guidelines is not allowed. The template states actors should be listed in chronological order. Period. Nothing about ignoring temps or not adding the ones Arre9 doesn't want there. You yourself stated in that very conversation that you made up your own rule. How does that make sense? Also, the duration dates are not only misleading, they're wrong. You have added incorrect information to the Taylor Hayes page. She wasn't on the show consecutively until this year. Why are you omitting correct information that guidelines specifically state need to be there and adding in wrong information that shouldn't be there? And, most importantly, why are you doing so intentionally?Cebr1979 (talk) 00:19, 26 November 2014 (UTC) My apologies, the person who made up their own rules was JuneGloom, not you, but it is in the same conversation so you can see what I meant.Cebr1979 (talk) 00:39, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Which editor did I run to because they will agree with me? I cannot give a reply until the heading is clearly explained.Rain the 1 00:26, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

That's what Arre9 does. That was clear to understand since he started the conversation on your talk page.Cebr1979 (talk) 00:29, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Well since you are keen on policy - I would like to point out that Wikipedia discourages personal attacks. Making a heading on another user's talk page with the aim to belittle and accuse another editor is clearly making things personal. It is clear to see you have a problem with this user. I was also under the impression that this user was a female? To address the accusation directly, I doubt Arre landed here with the knowledge that I would agree with her automatically. I took long enough to find the time to reply and secondly, me and this user have had many a difference of opinion over various article content related matters. But that is the beauty of this website, we discuss and find a middle ground. That is usually called a consensus, with others involved obvs... though according to you this does not matter. I am fair though, so I would like to ask you what the problem is, relating to article content only. Why do you need separate dates and each and every actor listed in the infobox? Anything else too. It is good to talk! :-)Rain the 1 00:41, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

• sigh* You are just being difficult... There are template guidelines that state what should be in there. I've told you that. It's not me that "needs" the info there, it's wikipedia. Because wikipedia has listed what info it wants in templates in its template guidelines. Why do you feel you can ignore that?Cebr1979 (talk) 00:51, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

I am not being difficult. Another personal comment, stick to content not editors. Wikipedia does not need the information there. Various old guidelines used to lead to easy deletions of Soap opera related articles. Editors like myself and countless others spent their time improving and condensing down various aspects of the articles to draw them into line with thousands of other notable and credible articles. One such area that drew many a commment was the infobox, we finally reached a surprising agreement to merge the infobox. So you can follow the outcomes of which. If you do not like the result then feel free to raise a discussion. I will be more than likely to offer my opinion there. I ignore nothing to finish.Rain the 1 01:03, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

So you're telling me you've had a conversation which completely invalidates [this] and it's no longer relevant?Cebr1979 (talk) 01:09, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

A light guideline perhaps not updated recently because of the absence of an active admin related to the field? Please go by consensus only. I disagree with some by the way!!! But still always follow them (even when I really do not want to).. You are clutching at straws now with policy typy things that may no longer reflect. Is it really important? You could just concentrate on sourced article content and help improve a vast array of articles waiting. Your passion seems so misplaced and disruptive. It would be much more beneficial if you put such energy into creating content than dictating infobox cluttered trivia. Consider it atleast.01:19, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

You know what's frustrating? You tell me to go with consensus but, not once have you shown where this consensus conversation happened (even though I've asked). Consider that at least. Lastly, Arre9 was the one who told me to follow the template guidelines back in the day. Once I started doing that, suddenly the template guidelines were no longer relevant. So... like... which is it???Cebr1979 (talk) 01:35, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

I cannot be bothered to link it. I know my stuff. You feel the need to be the policy cop and link to what everyone knows. Bored now. Shame you cannot display the same enthusiasm searching for consensus. You just need blocking ASAP!Rain the 1 02:35, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Sorry to interrupt, but Cebr, firstly, I am a female. Secondly, I came to Raintheone because I know they've been editing soap articles (constructive editing) for a long time and generally have a good grasp on things, not because I "knew" they would agree with me. You need to stop with your constant personal attacks and accusations. It's not going to make anyone see your point and it doesn't really matter considering you refuse to see other people's points. The only person being difficult here is you tbh. And also, I never remember really telling you to follow guidelines for the info-box template, but I was trying to make you understand non-free and free image guidelines and how you should use images on Wikipedia (Which you clearly did not listen to, as you uploaded a file to Wikimedia Commons which was deleted anyway). — Arre 04:11, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

My talk page

Why are you making reverts on my talk page? I'm allowed to delete those messages. Don't do that again. Please review [this] and [this] before making violations against talk page rules again.Cebr1979 (talk) 01:14, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents

I started a conversation there about something you were involved in.Cebr1979 (talk) 04:32, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Webcite

I'm having some issues with it at the moment. I've been using it as the archive URL for the Other characters list, and today it started saying that it no longer recognized the new links I was archiving, and yet it still recognized the old links. Do you have any idea what's going on, or another place that I can archive these? Yoshi876 (talk) 23:06, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

I have no idea why it has started doing that all of a sudden. Perhaps try again in a couple of days? I will try to see if there is an alternative website to archive links.Rain the 1 21:58, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm not sure if there's something going on with the website itself, I tried archiving an imgur link and it came up with the same message. Yoshi876 (talk) 18:53, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Merry Xmas!

	Merry Xmas!
	Merry Xmas to you! 5 albert square (talk) 00:51, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. xRain the 1 22:24, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Troublesome user

Hi. I'm having a bit of an issue with 92.17.31.62 who keeps adding unsourced and likely untrue information on Cleo McQueen. There is no info on her, and yet the IP has taken it upon themselves to come up with a full name and friends of the character despite neither being confirmed, and offers no reason when I undo their edits. Can you do something about it? Yoshi876 (talk) 11:29, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

They are a sockpuppet IP editor and TBH undo them everytime. With in reason, do not engage in an edit war. They are a long term user that got banned and to be fair must have nothing better to do. Ignore them.Rain the 1 23:40, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Merry Christmas to you!

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	Wishing you a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! x - JuneGloom07 Talk 16:01, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Hollyoaks Other Character Source

Lately the source I've been using hasn't been updating with the other characters, do you know of any other site that provides sources for these? Yoshi876 (talk) 21:56, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

I shall look into it and get back to you. Rather confusing all these problems that are occurring right now when it has been simple for a good few years now.Rain the 1 02:54, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Alice Barlow

Hi, The link states "Profile at BBC Online" - Which is useless as it can be a profile for anything..... So I saw no harm in changing in to "Amy Alice Barlow - The Voice Profile at BBC Online", Cheers, –Davey2010 ^{Merry Xmas / Happy New Year} 00:24, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Her name is Alice not Amy - I did not get the change.Rain the 1 00:26, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

I meant Alice sorry . –Davey2010 ^{Merry Xmas / Happy New Year} 00:44, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Haha. No worries, that is the only reason I removed it. :PRain the 1 21:45, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

My article

Hi Rain, Hope you had a good Christmas and are looking forward to 2015. I was wondering if you could spare a couple of minutes to look over my article on Les Coker - User:Soaper1234/Les Coker. I have summited it, but was hoping you could you just double-check before hand. Thanks and all the best of 2015, --Soaper1234 (talk) 15:45, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Update on TV Guide and Webcite

Both seem to be working again, Webcite successfully cached the web address I added today, and was also able to do for the ones where I noticed it hadn't cached. I'm fairly certain TV Guide is working again because it did have the correct character and actor, though it did lack the "Appearing on TV this week" part, so I'm not 100% certain it's fixed, but I guess we'll find out probably in 2015 now. Yoshi876 (talk) 21:43, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Ah, right. Here is to hoping the problem has fixed itself now then. That website is a real help for the character lists - which you took great care of the past year.Rain the 1 17:00, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

HO: Drug used by the killer

Are we sure it was potassium chloride? Potassium kills instantly and it looked like Rick was lingering for a few minutes. If it was potassium, the gloved had would only have had time to get out of the room before his heart stopped. Just asking. 96.238.63.200 (talk) 10:11, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

I saw a similar discussion in the Digital Spy forums earlier. I believe potassium chloride has been mentioned in various sources and Hollyoaks wouldn't be the first soap to go against science. Rick's lingering could have been done for dramatic effect to show he was actually dying. - JuneGloom07 Talk 00:00, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Apology

Hi, Raintheone. I have a huge apology to make to you. I am very, very sorry for my personal attack on you back in September, it was incredibly insensitive and I had no right at all to do such a thing, and I realise that my actions were inappropriate and utterly unacceptable. I have been an extremely unsavoury editor, and I feel really bad for being so rude to such an experienced editor. There is no excuse for my despicable behaviour. I guess when I created Holby City (Series 17) I thought I'd made a perfect article, particularly as it was my first. But then when I saw citation tags all over the page I thought it looked scruffy and that it was ridiculous, but it wasn't, as you need references to be accurate! The page looks fantastic thanks to the work of you and JuneGloom, and I honestly cannot apologise enough for being so rude. I always wanted to apologise to you, but to be honest, I haven't had the guts as I was scared. Please don't feel I've done this just to begin editing and abusing users again, as I have learnt my lesson from being banned. Being banned from editing made me reflect on my behaviour, and made me realise that I have no right to be so rude. I would love to at least be civil with you and JuneGloom again, but I completely understand if you weren't to accept my apology, as what I said to you two is unforgivable. I really hope we can resolve things, but like I said I understand if we can't. Thank you for making me realise my actions were inappropriate, I guess I got carried away, which a good Wiki editor would never do! Once again, I cannot apologise enough for my repulsive behaviour. AdamTayl (talk) 18:24, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

I accept and thank you for your apology. You shouldn't have felt scared about saying sorry back then though. I'm sure we would have all forgotten about it and moved on with improving the encyclopedia (which hopefully we can do now). Although I am curious as to why you resorted to sock puppetry? You weren't blocked for the uncivil comment, so you could have carried on editing as normal. - JuneGloom07 Talk 23:35, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

How can you accept an apology addressed to someone else? Smurfmeister (talk) 12:21, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

I'm mentioned twice above and the original uncivil comment was directed at both me and Raintheone. - JuneGloom07 Talk 22:06, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

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Madge's image

Hi

Does Madge's image need updating?

I found this image which I think could be used. If my memory serves me right it can be uploaded as an excerpt of copyrighted work or as part of a newspaper article.--5 albert square (talk) 21:54, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Not sure as it would not represent her entire stay. If it does I would just use a screen-shot.Rain the 1 16:34, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

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Help

The same editor who has been hounding & stalking edits that I've discussed with you before has just cleared/redirected a good article based on his opinion that the character is not notable. It's probably because I worked on the article and brought it to GA status, this editor seems to be following my edits closely and it's discouraging me from editing. Would you please help me out with this? The character was on the show for a short period, but was a notable contract character during that time. I don't even know why I am having to still deal with this person. Since when can someone just redirect an article that has substantial information, and is a good article (has been a DYK as well)? When others want to change something, this user forces them to start discussions to gain "Consensus" yet he does what he pleases, It's very upsetting. That's the worst part about this. Unfortunately, I feel as if I cannot do anything about this, as this user will just revert me. They always do, they have a reckless history of edit warring. It's relentless and this is causing me literal distress, because I worked on this article and got it to GA status. Should I go to an admin about this, or could you just revert them? I have no idea what to do because I know for a definite fact that I will be reverted. I am not going to edit war with this person because it seems like that's what they want. Sorry to come to you again (I know it's probably getting annoying), it's just you are the first person I think of when I need help. Thanks. — Arre 11:34, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Another thing... This user makes no sense. He removes one recurring cast member based on his judgement that they aren't on the show anymore, because they haven't been seen or heard from, but then when somebody else tries to remove another recurring cast member whose character was killed off, they say they need confirmation that the actor is not employed with the show anymore. I have no personal issue with this, but it just seems like this user is doing whatever they want and even contradicting them self. Not to mention the personal attacks have continued, but that is another matter. What (if anything) can be done here for this user to stop? Because (I think you can also attest to this) there is no reasoning or discussing things with them. Just want to know what you think. — Arre 12:11, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for the lengthy messages btw. I just reverted him, I had to. Please stay on the look out, because I am assuming he will revert me again per usual. — Arre 15:04, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

I stick to my usual advise and report the matter to an admin. The editor should not have made such a bold edit considering the article has 25 sources and was promoted to good article status. You did the correct thing reverting the edit as it was disruptive.Rain the 1 09:45, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Jim McGinn

As you may be aware I started work on the article sometimes last year, lately I've been putting a lot more effort into the creation and have expanded a few sections on it, I just wanted to make sure that the way I am writing it was correct, so I was wondering if you'd mind just looking over it? I am aware that probably isn't near completion. Can be found here. Yoshi876 (talk) 21:12, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Ah yes, I remember. Appears okay yeah - adding the sort of real world info needed to form an article. Keep up the good work. A shame he did not stay in the show longer.Rain the 1 22:17, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Is the real-world info basically stuff like the reception section, and how the actors regarded the character? Yoshi876 (talk) 06:49, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Correct. anything about the character from other sources and the actors/production. Anything in-universe is storyline info.Rain the 1 15:11, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

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Wentworth

I noticed that you have reverted my removal of the TV Choice 2014 award nomination from Wentworth (TV series). I removed this because I could not find a reliable source to support the nomination. In fact, what I found was that the show was not a nominee; the nominees for Best International Show 2014 were; The Big Bang Theory, Game Of Thrones, Modern Family and The Walking Dead. I provide two sources for this [22] & [23]. The source you provide in the table [24] does not support the claim that Wentworth was a nominee, and your recollection of having voted for it is not, I'm afraid, a reliable source. You also comment that that the removal was not discussed anywhere, I refer you to the talk page [25]. Poltair (talk) 06:44, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

It was nominated for the award. I know because I voted. When I added the source it was there as a nomination alongside some other 9 shows. Those you mentioned made it through to the second round of voting used for the final awards selection. The TV Choice Awards always start with a long list of nominations featured on their website and in their magazine. You can foget lecturing me about reliable sources. The problem here is that you removed a source because it's URL changes path. At the very least you could have assumed good faith - or found an alternative or archived version of the webpage. It is not as though I am an untrusted user, I have given so much time to the project. It appears it was all so you could come tell me I am unreliable.Rain the 1 10:09, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

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I had a look and removed some questionable additions to the ibox. Since when was Cindy a stepmother to Anthony and Dee Dee? lol - JuneGloom07 Talk 19:45, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

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Peri Lomax

I believe that the page is fine the way it is, Peri has became notable for the storylines concerning her teenage pregnancy and that Leela was in fact her mother.--Kwilliams100 (talk) 00:34, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

I am aware of this, however that information was not included to the extent it should have been or in a way that deminstrates that such notability. It needed an entire casting, development and reception sections added but those were missed out.Rain the 1 13:28, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

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User:D4nnyw14/Hollyoaks draft

I saw that you were working on User:D4nnyw14/Hollyoaks draft about two years ago. D4nnw14 has since gone inactive. Is that rewrite of Hollyoaks still needed or was it merged into the main article? Note that there's some old Hollyoaks character drafts that D4nnw14 created now at Category:Draft-Class Hollyoaks articles. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 09:09, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

I think it is abandoned because it was too much of a big task with him disappearing. To the best of my knowledge the information was not merged either. It could be deleted once it has and i doubt there would be any objection.Rain the 1 19:45, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Great Expansion!

I just wanted to compliment you on how you've expanded the piece on Lily Chao into a full character page. As a fan of the character as well as from an encyclopedic perspective I think it's been very nicely done. Leemorrison (talk) 01:34, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, I really appreciate that as not many people take the time to compliment my work on articles. She is a great character and I thought Casualty deserved a new character article. Happy Editing!Rain the 1 18:11, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Georgina Walker

Hi, just letting you know the above article has been prodded, not by me.146.90.6.53 (talk) 03:31, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Annoyed

Why do you have to be a dick towards other Wiki users and destroy their hard work? You've ruined pages for Kim, Trevor and many more. You create articles for TWO CHARACTERS WHO ARE HARDLY NOTABLE FOR EXAMPLE Joanne Cardsley and Diego Salvador Martinez Hernandez De La Cruz neither have had their own storylines on Hollyoaks. Why do you think you're better than everyone else?--94.196.210.59 (talk) 23:21, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Do you not think you are being unfair. I have created many Hollyoaks articles alongside other editors. I helped to promote some to Good Article status. I still create articles. I believe that Kim's article was poorly written from an in-universe perspective and I am trying to improve the article. Diego and Joanne have become notable quickly and that sometimes happens.Rain the 1 21:56, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Hollyoaks main cast

User:Yoshi876 keeps putting main character Silas into the guest credits, isn't there anything that can be done to fix it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.29.32.81 (talk) 00:51, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

Silas was a regular character and as it is a work of fiction we look at it as a whole complete work, so we can't rewrite history and claim the character is a guest character just because they have been a couple of weeks vs two years on the show. It may be that the editor may have not been aware of the usual practise that's been on here for years. Talking about it usually solves misunderstandings on here, i dont think personal attacks help though, we all work together on here and as we want to make the articles better dont we.Rain the 1 23:02, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Hey

Hi there,

I saw you created the Joanne Cardsley page and I think you could help me with the actual Hollyoaks Wiki, I'm the admin there, and you seem to have a grasp on this. If not, then I'd like to think that we can make more Hollyoaks themed things here instead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MultiStorey (talk • contribs) 09:51, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

I doubt I would have time to help on another Wiki. I'm more than happy to keep contributing here though. I would like Simone Loveday to have an article. I noticed you created the article with no sources, but on Wikipedia we have to really work on articles to ensure they pass a guideline called WP:GNG. I do not mind working on that article.Rain the 1 15:17, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thank you for updating/uploading images, improving Gemma Ramsay, Lance Smart & Martin Dibble's articles with real-world info, creating two new Hollyoaks articles and for being a good friend and editor. :) JuneGloom07 Talk 18:25, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, i have not seen one of these for a while. Glad to be helping out more :-)Rain the 1 19:09, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Alfie Nightingale

I am currently working offline on making a page for Alfie Nightingale, what websites would you recommend using to get details on his major storyline? Would you feel he is notable for the storyline? Would you be willing to give any advice?

Many ThanksDoomsdayman (talk) 12:36, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

If it were me I'd look on Digital Spy, Channel 4, Metro, Daily Mirror and Mail and a search engine to find any other news sources reporting on the character. Plus scanning The Free Library for any possible reception information. In addition you would need to have soap magazine interviews. Alfie is a new character and there is likely not enough content online alone. If you have no access to Inside Soap, Soaplife, All About Soap back catalogue then I'd probably chose a different more established character from any of the soaps. As you can see from my recent expansion of Kim Butterfield there is usually more information available, but it did take a lot more work.Rain the 1 13:13, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

"Random sources"

Hi! I took a look at this edit.

On Wikipedia editors have to think about how to expand the article and encouraging other people to do so. I add additional sources with understanding that other editors will find additional information and add the content to the article. If you relegate them to a talk page few people are going to see it. Keeping a group of such additional sources in the external links or a "further reading" section is to be expected.

Sometimes I want to spend time developing an article but other times I say "hey, I see a source that could help this article but I don't want to work on it right now, so I'll just put it in an external links/further reading section and allow other editors to see the links and use them to develop the article."

I added the links back and I think they should be kept until/unless someone takes the content and integrates it into the article. WhisperToMe (talk) 18:59, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

I went ahead and integrated them into the article. The People magazine one is insightful since Kerman stated/implied that she no longer could relate to the main character as she and the story changed so much WhisperToMe (talk) 19:48, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

I understand you. Finding a good source but not being in the mood to use it. I always add them to the talk page and sometimes they are noticed. When I noticed those in the external links I thought it was strange so removed them. I should have really looked into it a little closer. It is great that you have improved the article too.Rain the 1 20:29, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you :) WhisperToMe (talk) 21:46, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Diego Salvador Martinez Hernandez De La Cruz

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Neighbours '90

Hey, if you need any help at all. Just sing out.

Conquistador2k6 6 April 2016 23:41 (UTC)

Hello there. I'm glad you are still around, help would be great as I'm sure I have missed a couple of characters out.Rain the 1 10:45, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Regarding my edit, I skimmed the ep on Youtube. Denning's not in it, nor credited Conquistador2k6 21 April 2016 21:40 (UTC)

Nope, Denning made all his appearences in 1990. You're right, that site isn't the most accurate at times and suffers due to major credit spam. Conquistador2k6 21 April 2016 22:02 (UTC)

That pretty much is it. Just let me sort out a few things and we can send it out. What's your next project anyway? I've got '87 and '88 in storage but can't really move on those til June deals with '86. Conquistador2k6 27 May 2016 22:02 (UTC)

Two Quite Notable Characters

Hey there, I've seen a lot of your work and I was wondering, would you ever take the time to do articles for Kyle Slater and Sally St. Claire? I think they would be notable due to the transgender side of everything among other things.--94.196.208.194 (talk) 22:45, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

I think I would be interested in making an article for Sally at some point. She is a great character too.Rain the 1 10:44, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Joanne Cardsley

On 30 April 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Joanne Cardsley, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a Hollyoaks insider believes that Joanne Cardsley has "become one of the most talked-about bunny boilers in soaps"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Joanne Cardsley. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Joanne Cardsley), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Ooh DYK got very soapy lately! anemoneprojectors 13:54, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Guy Self

Hi there,

I see you reverted the changes again on Holby City character Guy Self because "They were removed because the article needs improving and I'm helping to start that." surely you are able to keep the information that was already on there then just improve from that as it atleasts has info about his appearance in Casualty and Holby City. Dannysage96 (talk) 08:31, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

It could have been written from a different perspective. It was just storyline information without sources. The article would benefit fully sourced content to match the standard other Holby articles are at. I will make time to improve it soon.Rain the 1 00:47, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Sally St. Claire

As this character is the first trans character played by a trans actress, she merits her own page, not a redirect. I am assembling some references and other factual information which will be added to make it a better article, please don't take it upon yourself to pass judgement when it is in the process of being refined. EmmaPeelsKitten (talk) 17:27, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Three days have passed and you have done nothing to improve the article. As the first trans character played by a trans actress, the article has much potential and needs someone willing to do it correctly. So far that has not happened.Rain the 1 10:59, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Yeah sorry about having a life. Jeez. Wow. I have assembled some research which I'll put in in my own good time. Your cut-n-slash technique is rude and somewhat unproductive. The article now omits key, important facts. I'll restore a fair bit of the stuff you just eviscerated this week. Always amazes me how some Wikipedia editors think they're so far above others. EmmaPeelsKitten (talk) 23:04, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

No one was being rude. The article contained errors and I have corrected them. In adition I removed unsourced claims in-line with Wikipedia guidelines. I do not think I am above anyone and welcome collaboration on articles because it makes for a better project. Perhaps you could have started a sandbox and built the article over time, until it was ready for the mainspace? Most editors on here began articles in their user space first. I will work on Sally's article more. She is an important fictional character and I agree that she deserves broad coverage with plenty of facts.Rain the 1 23:24, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Reply

Hello, I've left a reply on my talk page.Kwilliams100 (talk) 17:44, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

I have seen the work you done on I'll Walk You Home, I think it is a great job. Well done :). Kwilliams100 (talk) 09:31, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

Your Work

Yo, you have some great pieces of work on here, I see you like Holby and Home and Away and Hollyoaks. Would you ever consider making articles for Sonia Albright, Zack Loveday, Cleo McQueen, Pete Buchanan, Morven Shreve, Bernie Wolfe, Kat Chapman, Hunter King and Joe Roscoe? If you have no plans for those characters it is okay as you have done great work on here. Give yourself a pat on the back dude.--94.196.133.225 (talk) 17:23, 17 June 2016 (UTC) Thank you. I have considered creating an article for Sonia and Hunter out of your list. Most Holby characters will eventually end up with articles the way it is going. Bernie definitely is not ready yet though as there needs to be more content.Rain the 1 17:53, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

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Hollyoaks

Will you ever think about making pages for Grace Black, Trevor Royle and Alfie Nighingale considering their recent nominations in the Inside Soap Awards. Also in Neighbours would you ever think about making a page for Piper Willis? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.40.72.58 (talk) 13:51, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Grace's article for definite and that article is nearly at the top of my to do list. It will take a while. I will start a new Oaks article this week too. I believe other editors are making an articles for Alfie and Piper from what I have seen.Rain the 1 14:44, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

I am aware that Pete Buchanan people have tried to create before but I believe he also could qualify for an article with his recent nomination(s) and Jade Albright has also been nominated. I have seen your Ethan work and it is brilliant. Would you think Cal or Robyn or Duffy should have Casualty articles. Anyway, you have great work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.28.129.248 (talk) 00:58, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

I believe all the characters mentioned along this page could have articles. It just needs the work put into creating them. Duffy for instance would be a real task as it would require gathering sources from 30 years ago which may be difficult now. I have had some requests for the Simone/Louis/Zack/Sonia Loveday character articles more than once now on here. So I will add them all to my to do list.Rain the 1 01:34, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I feel like Duffy would have to be a collaboration due to her longevity, it might prove too much for one editor. - JuneGloom07 Talk 14:56, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

I strongly agree with that.Rain the 1 15:06, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

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Soaps/Dramas

You are amazingly talented on how you make you're articles. I have a few characters who are deserving of articles if you think you would have feelings about making them.

Hollyoaks

• Mac Nightingale
• Ben Bradley
• Nathan Nightingale
• Harry Thompson
• Marnie Nighingale

Holby/Cas

• Jamie Collier
• Derwood Thompson
• Cara Marteniz

EE

• Kyle Slater

Aus soaps

• Kat Chapman
• Skye Peters
• Dylan Carter
• Spencer Harrington
• Xanthe Canning
• Julie Quill14:32, 28 June 2016 (UTC)188.28.26.126 (talk)

I will have a think about them. There have been so many requests lately that I'm confused about where to start. Plus there is not always enough info available to create certain character articles until much later.Rain the 1 21:24, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

I definitely think Kyle needs a page, I would be happy to work on it but I'm working on so much and so busy with other things lately that I would need help. In fact I just started the draft for it. Also see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject EastEnders#Characters needing independent articles. :-) anemoneprojectors 10:46, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

I kept checking to see if the subpage had been created so I could see the list. Now I understand.Rain the 1 13:38, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

I just hit / instead of #! A subpage might be a good idea though, save it being archived. Well, there's a no archive template too... anemoneprojectors 07:16, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Rain, I saw you reverted some layout changes where someone had moved storylines to the first section (well, I saw you do it in one article actually!) and thought I should say that although it's probably good to be consistent throughout each individual soap, it is recommended that the storylines go first, before the development, in fact I'm surprised the other soaps (i.e. not EastEnders) don't all already do it. Having said that, I just had a quick look at a few Emmerdale characters and they have storylines first, and some Oaks characters do too. In fact most of the Corrie ones I just looked at do too, but I only looked at about 4 or 5 from each. It's probably a big job to change them all to be the same though. anemoneprojectors 10:08, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

The problem is that it is not consistent. It probably will only be once an experienced editor puts the effort in. Todd is a good example. You get an IP edit that simply swaps the two over, but does not delink each instance of a character, actor, location or term and ensures it is linked within the storyline section on first mention. When done to an article that is quite stable, why keep it that way when it was okay before. I could make the changes myself but that will prompt IPs to make mass changes and I will be tasked with mass cleaning up. If it were done correctly then I would not care. When I create character articles I often put the section first and make sure it fits with the rest of the article. Most of the time I do not include the section at all. What I cannot call was why it was recommended if the section is included, why first?Rain the 1 13:14, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Yeah good point, it needs more than just swapping sections over, so yeah I don't blame you for reverting in that case. Having storylines first establishes context in relation to the development of those storylines, etc. MOS:TV confirms this. It would be nice if it was consistent throughout but you're totally right, it needs dedicated users who will clean it up afterwards and not just straight swaps. anemoneprojectors 18:17, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Leanne Battersby

Hi,

Can I ask why you deleted it? Most the storyline info I wrote was last year about Simon abusing Leanne-what's wrong with it? And I reworded most of it so it wasn't from a fan's perspective. And unsourced-it's from the show it's self.

Thanks,

Grangehilllover (talk) 10:17, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

It was only because there was a lot of story detail added without any sourced development information alongside it. Plus there was an entirely unsourced about Kal added. The edit was more focused on that aspect and the fact other IP editors had removed sourced sections regarding the restaurant fire and Dan Mason - i reverted to a previous stable version of the article. I was not singling out edits you made though.Rain the 1 10:25, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi,

Well, can I put it back please? And then I'll do development sections for it soon as I can? I spend a lot of time on pages.

Thanks,

Grangehilllover (talk) 10:48, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

That is your choice. You could always add the storyline detail back on it's own, contained in the "storylines" section. I'm against the section regarding Kal being added back to the development section as it was original research. You could expand the lead section again once you create the additional development sections in the article. Also episode numbers really need sourcing before adding to the infobox as it is a WP:OR issue.Rain the 1 11:03, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK for James Nightingale (Hollyoaks)

On 13 July 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article James Nightingale (Hollyoaks), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Hollyoaks actor James Sutton has described James Nightingale as a strong and powerful character? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/James Nightingale (Hollyoaks). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, James Nightingale (Hollyoaks)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Hollyoaks

Hi there, I have started work on a sandbox for Hollyoaks E4 episode today, User:Kwilliams100/sandbox/Three, in your opinion should I wait for more reception from the TV guides etc before completing and moving to the mainspace. Any advice available would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks --Kwilliams100 (talk) 23:59, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Good idea, I wondered earlier if there would be enough information about it. Hopefully some of the TV magazines had info in them? I suppose it does need more information so other things you could include:

• Richardson thinking the addiction too controversial for an early evening timeslot.[26]
• Episode is "harrowing" and "made history"[27]
• Reporter believed the episode hard a "dark" tone to it.[28]
• Social media reaction - "moved to tears"[29]
• Writer tells readers not to miss the dramatic episode, basically stating it is unmissable[30]
• More reception[31]Rain the 1 00:26, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Thanks for all your links. Could you please look at the draft and give me an opinion as I personally think it is close to ready for the mainspace. Thanks for your advice it is appreciated as always.--Kwilliams100 (talk) 22:38, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

You made quick progress with the article - looks ready. :) The only suggestions I see and they are small style changes - Link Ste, Harry and Tony alongside their actor names the first instance they are mentioned in the plot section. In ref number 14 you need to change the text from capital letters.Each time you mention a print source such as Inside Soap, Daily Mirror, Metro it needs italicising.Rain the 1 22:48, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

I have done all you advised me, I will move the article to the mainspace now. Where in the template should I place the article? Also would you be able to find an image for the article? Many Thanks for all your help.--Kwilliams100 (talk) 22:59, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Also, if you wouldn't mind, because I am not aware of the talk page banners, could you place them on also. Many Thanks again.Kwilliams100 (talk) 23:06, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)Storylines might be the best place in the nav box to put the article for now. - JuneGloom07 Talk 23:31, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Many thanks for the suggestion, I've placed it in that section of navbox.Kwilliams100 (talk)< —Preceding undated comment added 00:13, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

I added the banners. I will add pictures of the actors.Rain the 1 00:15, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Also, WP:DYK anyone? Might need to rewrite/paraphrase some of the quotes first though and check the character count. But a potential hook could be "...that "Episode 4429" is the first Hollyoaks episode to feature just three characters?" (might need work to avoid that repetition of 'episode'). - JuneGloom07 Talk 01:09, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

I am not 100% sure about how to make a DYK, as for the character count, aside for an extra walking in the street in one scene (around 5 seconds she was seen) it was just Tony, Harry and Ste.--Kwilliams100 (talk) 08:16, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Have a read of the article I linked to. DYK stands for Did You Know and features newly created/expanded/GA promoted articles on the main page. There are a few rules, so make sure you read them thoroughly. I didn't mean which characters were in the episode, but how many characters of prose make up the article. So there is currently 6153 characters or 1074 words. Sorry for the confusion. - JuneGloom07 Talk 15:59, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

I am surprised the actors have not acknowledged that it is the second three hander episode as they did one with Jacqui, Rhys and Gilly in 2011. Perhaps that can be mentioned in the article background?Rain the 1 16:18, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

I personally didn't know about the 2011 episode as I only started watching Hollyoaks in March 2015. Would I include in the lead that it is the second three-hander? I was going to add the IMDB link but on IMDB they claim the episode is 4434; should I still add the IMDB link?--Kwilliams100 (talk) 17:57, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Include it in the production and lead. So which episode number is correct then? Is there a reliable source confirming the actual episode number? IMDB is a bad link to use if it is inaccurate and considering anyone can edit it if there is doubt it should not be used on here.Rain the 1 18:38, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

My Radio Times source in the infobox claims it is 4429.--Kwilliams100 (talk) 18:43, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Kylie Platt

im trying to put Kylie death date, but don't know how — Preceding unsigned comment added by DBZfan1989 (talk • contribs) 13:58, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Hey. I removed it as there is no such parameter field in the soap character info box. The inclusion of a date of death is not supported by the WP:SOAPS community because it blurs the line between fiction and real world. Generally In-universe is discouraged on here and as it is fictional, fictional characters do not cease to exist making a date of death redundant. Hope that helps explain the confusion here.Rain the 1 15:09, 17 July 2016 (UTC) ok (DBZfan1989 (talk) 15:25, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Alanpopo123

I just reverted a bunch of edits by Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Cebr1979. The trouble is, the reversions go back to edits by Alanpopo123. If you get a chance, can you please go over them? --NeilN ^{talk to me} 19:30, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

I did take a look. It is all very confusing. Perhaps some of the most popular articles with the editor should be placed on semi PP for a while to discourage editing from them?Rain the 1 21:23, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK for The Wheel of Liverpool

On 31 July 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Wheel of Liverpool, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in October 2013, The Wheel of Liverpool was struck by lightning but sustained no damage? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Wheel of Liverpool. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, The Wheel of Liverpool), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:01, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

Hollyoaks

The edit I made to Holly Cunningham is more correct. As the fictional character was only conceived after her mother's one night stand on her sixteen birthday according to the cindy cunningham wiki page. Would you be able to revert the change back to what I made. Kind regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Banana16 (talk • contribs) 14:42, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

It is original research and In-universe detail better left out until it can be sourced and turned into something more fitting of this project.Rain the 1 17:03, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

Nice work creating Wheel of Liverpool!  :-)

Should Wheel of Liverpool be added to Template:ACC Liverpool? 81.141.41.74 (talk) 14:21, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Hello. Thank you. I added it to the template. I was surprised you moved the article title though.Rain the 1 20:41, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. Did you see the rationale? See also London Eye, Eiffel Tower. Are you OK with it? 81.141.41.74 (talk) 03:00, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

I did see the rationale and of course I am okay with it. I was surprised when it came up in my watchlist was what I meant to say.Rain the 1 15:02, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

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DYK for Amy Teo

On 20 August 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Amy Teo, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Holby City production team built a new set featuring real pharmaceutical equipment for the introduction of the character Amy Teo? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Amy Teo. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Amy Teo), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:01, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Alicia Munroe

Hi Raintheone, I'm beginning to create an article for Alicia Munroe (Casualty) and I was hoping you would be able to help me with something. I am under the impression that you collect the Inside Soap magazines for the articles they produce as a mean of reference for Wikipedia. I was hoping you would be able to provide me with any interviews they have done with Chelsea Halfpenny or Crystal Yu regarding Halfpenny's tenure on the show or the workplace bullying storyline? If not, that is fine, but if you can, I would be extremely grateful. Thanks, Soaper1234 (talk) 20:56, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Hello there. You are correct, I do collect them up for the interviews. I have the ones used in Lily's article plus some others for the character. I will try and find them tomorrow night and get them to you some how.Rain the 1 21:44, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, that would be so much help for me and I really appreciate it. I buy copies here and there, but I should really start collecting them regularly. Soaper1234 (talk) 22:21, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Sorry to ask again, but do you have the articles? Do it in your own time, I'm in no rush. Thanks again, Soaper1234 (talk) 19:28, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

@Soaper1234: I've located the articles on Rain's behalf. There's only two from her initial stint I'm afraid. I've also got one about her parents from a couple of weeks ago. Now we just have to work out how to get them from me to you. - JuneGloom07 Talk 23:21, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

@JuneGloom07: Thanks for that June. I didn't think there would be loads, but I appreciate you finding them. You could take an image and upload it to tinypic.com and share the link here? Soaper1234 (talk) 11:09, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

@Soaper1234: I just remembered my MediaFire account, so I've uploaded them there. Hopefully this link should work: [32] - JuneGloom07 Talk 23:41, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

Thank you so much @JuneGloom07: I really appreciate it. Soaper1234 (talk) 15:04, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

@Soaper1234: Sorry I never got round to that. I have been very busy. Thank you @JuneGloom07: for getting the magazines. In addition Soaper, I saw your comment at Grace Black's article, I am not sure about the GAN. The article length may not be appealing to most reviewers and could be time consuming putting off potential reviewers. That is just my opinion and others may feel different. Thank you for the compliments on it, I never thought I would finish it.Rain the 1 17:56, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

@Raintheone: Don't worry about it Rain, not a problem. Also, in regards to Grace's GAN, with you having now said that, I agree with you. Despite this, the article is fantastic and you should be proud of your work! Soaper1234 (talk) 18:39, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

No problem! :) - JuneGloom07 Talk 23:10, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

@JuneGloom07: Hi, three months down the line and I'm still quite bad at getting any of the Inside Soap magazines. I was just wondering if off the top of your head, you could remember if there was any articles with Alicia in? I'm hoping to add some more detail to the Ethan Hardy and Cal Knight section of the article and thought an article might have been produced? Thanks Soaper1234 (talk) 22:10, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

I think there was something. I'll take a look during the week. - JuneGloom07 Talk 01:33, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

@JuneGloom07: Thanks, I appreciate it :) Soaper1234 (talk) 15:39, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

@Soaper1234: Just to let you know that I haven't forgotten about this, but I'm way behind on my Christmas shopping at the moment, so that's getting all of my attention. I will track down the info for you. - JuneGloom07 Talk 19:35, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

@Soaper1234: Don't worry about it - I know the feeling, I'm trying to pick up last minute things at the moment. I'm in no hurry anyway :) Soaper1234 (talk) 19:54, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

@Soaper1234: Hey, I'm going to go through the mags tonight, so I'll look out for the Alicia info for you. Do you have this week's issue yet? If not, I'll scan that article for you too. - JuneGloom07 Talk 17:19, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

@JuneGloom07: Thanks - that would be a huge help for me! I haven't had the chance to nip out yet and I'm cautious to getting the app because I bought the 2016 and 2017 Yearbooks and they've gone walkies from my account.... Soaper1234 (talk) 20:31, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

@Soaper1234: That's not good. Is there anyone you can contact about that? Here are the articles that I found, there weren't as many as I thought there might be though. If I see anything else, I'll drop it on the talk page instead, so Rain doesn't get pinged each time. [33] - JuneGloom07 Talk 19:25, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

@JuneGloom07: I've contacted customer services to no avail. Thanks for that and I suppose one final ping and talk page from now onwards. Soaper1234 (talk) 19:28, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Ted Schmidt

On 22 August 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ted Schmidt, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Peter Paige originally auditioned for the role of Ted Schmidt in the American version of Queer as Folk? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ted Schmidt. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Ted Schmidt), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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DYK for Scott Drinkwell

On 22 August 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Scott Drinkwell, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Ross Adams worked as a script editor on the soap opera Emmerdale before he was cast as Scott Drinkwell in Hollyoaks? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Scott Drinkwell. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Scott Drinkwell), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:01, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

DYK for War Paint (Fletcher song)

On 24 August 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article War Paint (Fletcher song), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the song "War Paint" performed by American singer Fletcher was the most viral song on Spotify in the United States for the week commencing June 29, 2015? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/War Paint (Fletcher song). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, War Paint (Fletcher song)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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DYK for Grace Black

On 10 September 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Grace Black, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Hollyoaks producer Bryan Kirkwood believed he had let Tamara Wall down with the initial characterisation of her character Grace Black? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Grace Black. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Grace Black), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Welcome back!

Hi Raintheone! I saw your article on David and just wanted to say welcome back - it's great to see you editing again! Soaper1234 (talk) 17:00, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

@Soaper1234: Hey. Yeah I have not had much free time lately, so it was good to be able to contribute a bit. I will create something else soon no doubt.Rain the 1 17:55, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

We all know how lives can take over! Looking forward to seeing more material then! Soaper1234 (talk) 13:34, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

Great David

Such a gr8 article dude. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.132.213.250 (talk) 10:24, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

thanks.Rain the 1 17:51, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

new pages?

any more plans for other pages your work iz usually gr8. if u don't mind itd b gr8 to see marnie or ellie or alfie from oaks to hv their own pages? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.40.156.79 (talk) 15:52, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Neighbours '90 (late late late edition)

I think I'm definitely done with this. Sorry to leave you hanging for so long. Everything guest that matters has been unearthed.

Conquistador2k6 22 April 2017 12:22 (UTC)

@Conquistador2k6: I had forgotten about this list. I have moved it to the main space if you have finished then. Awesome.Rain the 1 20:12, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

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Hi User:Raintheone, can you add an entry for the character Rich (a source here [34]) on List of Coronation Street characters (2017) please? Because it's a character crucial to a stryline and doesn't have an entry on article.--Theo Mandela (talk) 11:02, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

@Theo Mandela: It has now come to my attention that you are asking several editors to do a job that you are quite capable of doing yourself. Please stop asking various editors to do this as they have their own tasks to complete. Soaper1234 - talk 11:58, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

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Welcome Back!, it was great reading your work on Veil of Tears – Part One, well done. I hope there's more great plans for the future. If you did plan to it would be great to see something on Leo Tanaka or Ryan Knight or one of the Morgans, but no pressure. Anyway great work on your new article.94.196.129.183 (talk) 21:19, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Just going to see what I have a motivation to create. Assuming I have enough time off work to create the article to my satisfaction that is.Rain the 1 22:30, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

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Great to see two good characters with articles! Any plans for other 2017 characters to get one? I think Andrea and Yashvi are definite contenders for articles. Anyway good work! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.132.238.106 (talk) 01:29, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. I pushed my luck with Mishti's article. I do not think there is enough information at present for the rest of the Rebecchis. Perhaps Andrea would be a good choice when the entire Dee saga is resolved.Rain the 1 09:15, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

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Hi Rain, most of the Neighbours images you have updated look great! Some of the ones were getting really old. But I have a few concerns. Sonya's just looks too red, her face looks like it has been over saturated or something and same goes with Paul's. Pipers looks a bit too fuzzy or possibly blurry. I reckon you can get away with Paul's but I think Sonya's was fine before and something else needs to be found for Piper. I hope this doesn't sound rude, just constructive. – Hatio93 ^Talk 07:02, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

It does not sound rude. You are right about Piper's being a little fuzzy. I have gone ahead and reverted it. Sometimes they look good but not so when placed in the infobox. I think Paul's new one is great, while Sonya is always awkward and never gives the best pose. I have not edited them so Sonya is a little red in the face. I tried to get the characters out in the sun because most of the indoor shots looked dull. I am not impressed that Leo is holding a phone in his but it was best I could get.Rain the 1 09:12, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, Paul's expression really matches his character in my opinion! Just thought you may have edited it a little. Haha, thought the same with Leo, but I reckon it would have been hard. Pleased to see you found one of Elly with a neutral expression, it has taken me 3 uploads and I never was happy with it! Fair enough with Sonya's, like Paul's I thought you had edited it but if not all good. I know what you mean when images are placed in the infobox, they look fine and then sometimes they just look off, but you just never know until its in! – Hatio93 ^Talk 09:44, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Mishti's look's good too btw and same with Karl. – Hatio93 ^Talk 09:48, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Be helpful not a sheep!

Instead of making articles for characters who nobody liked you should be doing better ones like for Farrah, Yashvi, Dixie, Jamie Davis, Roxanna, Ned Willis, Raffy or even go outside of soaps and get a great character on wiki with their own page! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.132.219.123 (talk) 08:51, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

I am unsure making articles for characters nobody liked would make me a sheep. I have previously created character articles from other genres of television. You already know the characters you listed will have articles in the future.Rain the 1 10:16, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Allegedly! Dixie, Roxanna and Jamie’s characters are years old without articles. Also take Olivia as an example but yet Gaskell has one after his first episode????? WTF like????? Even here’s a good place to start: Clay Jenson or Ezra Fitz!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.132.244.121 (talk) 19:00, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) We create articles for the subjects that interest us, not you. Please stop coming up with demands, especially for characters who have no hope of getting an article anytime soon due to notability issues, lack of sources or interest. Seriously, have you even looked for sources for Roxanna? Because I have, and there's next to nothing. - JuneGloom07 Talk 21:14, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) To echo what others have said, have you looked at any of the sources out there? In respond to Gaskell having an article, he had an article because I was able to find several pieces of information about him and McGann's casting. It's quite rude to demand articles from Raintheone and expect them to be made at your request. Soaper1234 - talk 17:17, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

I agree with you both. Gaskell has a lot of information and Roxanna does not.Rain the 1 14:54, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Even better idea…

An article for Maddie heath would be an even better idea. Since you’ve done lots of LGBT+ characters before. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.132.245.171 (talk) 11:53, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Zubin

Hi!

Would you like Zubin to be protected?--5 albert square (talk) 19:13, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Yes please - very helpful. @5 albert square:Rain the 1 20:55, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

 Done Set to indefinite protection so drop by my talk page whenever you'd like it removed :)--5 albert square (talk) 21:06, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for that.Rain the 1 08:11, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

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Not happy

Why did u take away all of ste's storylines like are u trying to confuse people i spent a whole weekend editing that and u erased 7 years of storylines Pdineen03 (talk) 15:44, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

I am not trying to confuse anyone. You added too much plot information. It passed a good article review and should still reflect that. On here we discuss the work of fiction via a fully sourced development section including information about notable stories sourced from actors, producers, writers and anyone else involved. It explains the work of fiction clear. Plot sections should be concise and only include important plot details. If you can condense those seven years into a around three paragraphs then it would not be so bad.Rain the 1 21:06, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

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Longest serving characters

Please tell me your joking? What do u mean it us unsourced. YOU LOOK AT HOW LONG THE CHARACHTER WAS ON THE SHOW and u add it up or is that to difficult for you? Was their any need to take it down? What difference did that make to u? Did that effect ur life in any other way? I’ll be writing that all over again and don’t even consider taking it down xx Pdineen03 (talk) 11:38, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

@Pdineen03: The table was unsourced and relied on original research. It is also somewhat redundant to List of longest-serving soap opera actors#United Kingdom. If you do add it back in its former state, it'll likely be removed again. - JuneGloom07 Talk 15:04, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

The Hollyoaks article existed for over ten years without this table. This edit shows that it was only added on 3 October 2017. It is unsourced original research and I removed it to follow guidelines. I personally liked the table. I would also like to take this opportunity to remind you of Wikipedia's civility policy: WP:CIV.Rain the 1 20:51, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

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Kim Butterfield

I can write what i want on her page. Can u even spell? U might want to check that. No one touched kims storylines in over a year so how come just when i do u decide to change it. You had all that time to do it if u wanted to do but no u do it straight after i do. No offense but ur editing is terrible. You can’t even spell write and do u even speak English? Pdineen03 (talk) 09:02, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

That's some fine irony right there.

@Pdineen03: Stop being rude. Check your own spelling, before commenting on someone else's. Remember that storyline and plot sections should be concise. - JuneGloom07 Talk 14:52, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Kim

If u think they should be short then look at Aaron and Robert from Emmerdale. Actually don’t coz u might get a heart attack knowing u. By the way can raintheone not talk for herself why is it always u commenting. Pdineen03 (talk) 15:02, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

You have been asked stop making personal attacks numerous times. I feel it is time to get an admin to intervene.Rain the 1 16:12, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Sorry

I apologise for my actions. I promise not to make and disruptions. Pdineen03 (talk) 17:22, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

If you have snapchat then add me and maybe we can reach an understanding Pdineen03 (talk) 17:33, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

When your block expires just be constructive and helpful in your contributions. I do not have snapchat and prefer to keep discussions regarding Wikipedia on Wikipedia.Rain the 1 19:12, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

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HighBeam

Hi Raintheone, hope you are keeping well. Disappointed to hear about the closure of HighBeam - I know it has been a crucial source for you and JuneGloom07. A draft that I have worked on uses a HighBeam article, but I do not have any access to it. Would you be able to archive the article for me please? I would be incredibly grateful! Thanks, Soaper1234 - talk 19:51, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

@Soaper1234: I've already exported that one, and plan to archive it at a later date. - JuneGloom07 Talk 20:06, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Even better, there's a copy of it at The Free Library. - JuneGloom07 Talk 20:08, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

That's brilliant JuneGloom07 - thank you! Soaper1234 - talk 20:13, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

I am glad someone else noticed. If you think there are more articles we could create in the future that would aid the help of HighBeam then point them out. I intend to download and archive as many as possible. As I am sure JuneGloom07 will.Rain the 1 21:37, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll keep my eye out and let you know. Soaper1234 - talk 19:49, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Actually, while I think ahead, could you have a quick search and see if there is anything relating to Rita Freeman please? Thank you, Soaper1234 - talk 19:54, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I will have a look for you and save them.Rain the 1 13:37, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

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Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! Thanks for all your help this year and all the best for 2019. Soaper1234 - talk 12:34, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Thank you @5 albert square: @Conquistador2k6: @Soaper1234: for the Christmas wishes - Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you all too.Rain the 1 12:49, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of James Mason (Australian actor)

Hello! Your submission of James Mason (Australian actor) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 22:22, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi, I promoted your hook, but then I noticed you have no citations in the Filmography or Awards charts. Please add them now. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 18:21, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for citing the award. I added the source that covers his roles, plus another source which confirms an upcoming one upcoming role.Rain the 1 18:46, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks very much! Yoninah (talk) 21:16, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK for James Mason (Australian actor)

On 3 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article James Mason (Australian actor), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that James Mason landed a role in Neighbours after two-thirds of the other actors in the audition dropped out upon learning the character was gay? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/James Mason (Australian actor). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, James Mason (Australian actor)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for George Pullar

On 8 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article George Pullar, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Australian actor George Pullar attended an army boot camp to prepare for his role in the drama series Fighting Season? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/George Pullar. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, George Pullar), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Amakuru (talk · contribs) 00:01, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Jackson Gallagher

On 13 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Jackson Gallagher, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in 2014, the Australian actor Jackson Gallagher escaped without injury from a rockfall during a climbing expedition at the Franz Josef Glacier in New Zealand? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Jackson Gallagher. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Jackson Gallagher), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

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DYK for Nick Russell (actor)

On 22 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Nick Russell (actor), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Australian actor Nick Russell quit his law career to concentrate solely on acting? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Nick Russell (actor). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Nick Russell (actor)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:02, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Ideas?

Sonya' death eps or Jason from HC would make good articles. Although it would be good to see other characters on spectrum having independent articles — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.132.244.11 (talk) 15:50, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

I think both are planned for the future.Rain the 1 18:01, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Georgina Naidu

On 2 March 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Georgina Naidu, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that actress Georgina Naidu premiered her one-woman show Yellowfeather in 2005 at the Sydney Opera House? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Georgina Naidu. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Georgina Naidu), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

8052

I know it was mentioned already but if anyone worked on article for it with sources etc could it be adapted as an article? But looking at page history would it really count as two-hander when Callum, Hugo and Nell all made silent cameos — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.132.247.245 (talk) 12:13, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Tom O'Sullivan (actor)

On 11 March 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Tom O'Sullivan (actor), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that actor Tom O'Sullivan's first television role was on Home and Away as a journalist who got into a fight with Alf Stewart (Ray Meagher)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Tom O'Sullivan (actor). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Tom O'Sullivan (actor)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 12:01, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for A Simple Lie

On 8 April 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article A Simple Lie, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the storyline of Holby City's two-part episode "A Simple Lie" was compared to the Charlie Gard case? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/A Simple Lie. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, A Simple Lie), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Oaks?

Just a query why hasn't there been any new Hollyoaks character pages been up lately I thot Laurie, Breda, Mac, Marnie, Alfie etc have been quite noted — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.132.246.8 (talk) 10:44, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Was wondering in the next few weeks could you make Wikipedia pages for the following Hollyoaks characters Lily McQueen, Tegan and Leela Lomax and Ollie Morgan. Thank you x Luked111111 (talk) 15:36, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

I have saved up many sources for Tegan and Leela. There are other articles I want to work on first.Rain the 1 17:49, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Hey Rain, in addition to the demands above, could you also create articles for all those characters that need articles, approve the DYK hooks, maintain ITN, and rebuild Notre Dame. Cheers! /s - JuneGloom07 Talk 19:30, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

@JuneGloom07:  DoneRain the 1 20:49, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

While you're at it can you sort out Brexit kthanxbye — 🌼📽️AnemoneProjectors💬 22:41, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

@AnemoneProjectors: 🙈🙊Rain the 1 13:08, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Miss Issa

The article Miss Issa has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Can't find any indication she meets WP:NMUSIC - no evidence of charting, no substantial sources about her located on search. this is the best I found, and it's more about Latin artists on MySpace than it is about her.

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Nomination of Miss Issa for deletion

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DYK for Melissa Ede

On 14 June 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Melissa Ede, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that LGBT rights activist Melissa Ede wanted to become the first transgender woman on Mars? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Melissa Ede. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Melissa Ede), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Sarah Major for deletion

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Proposed deletion of Chantelle Brader

The article Chantelle Brader has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Non-notable actor: fails WP:NACTOR (no "significant" roles to date) and WP:BASIC.

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