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Are you a Bot, or a person?

I cant tell from your message "Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, adding content without citing a reliable source, as you did with this edit to Second Battle of Al Faw, is not consistent with our policy of verifiability. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you are familiar with Wikipedia:Citing sources, please take this opportunity to add references to the article. Chzz ► 14:57, 18 July 2010 (UTC)" if you are a Bot, or a person? Please illuminate us...Simbagraphix (talk) 16:28, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

He is a person, but he used a semi-automated (botlike) template. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 00:51, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

I am a real person, Simbagraphix. Bots should have 'bot' at the end of their username, such as ChzzBot (talk · contribs). I used a standard template message, one of the 'warning' templates, see WP:WARN.

It is essential to say where information comes from - to use references. Verifiability is a core policy, and any fact lacking an appropriate reliable source can be removed. Thanks,  Chzz  ►  02:41, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Both the Second Battle of Al Faw, and the First Battle of Al Faw needed rewriting, if there are no references for the most part, why cant I rewrite and clean up what is there and build it up till I find some basic references I can use? Simbagraphix (talk) 12:00, 19 July 2010 (UTC).

I understand what you are saying, but the responsibility for references on any edits you make is your own. So yes, the current content is awful, but adding further unreferenced info won't help, and Wikipedia articles are 'live' - so if I hadn't picked it up, someone else would, and that could keep happening. Any unreferenced additions may be removed, and you could get warning messages leading to a block.

If you are rewriting a section, you could make a copy of it in your own userspace, work on it there, and - once it has appropriate references - copy it back. Take a look at User:Simbagraphix - I just made it, and put these links;

*[[User:Simbagraphix/test one]]
*[[User:Simbagraphix/test two]]
*[[User:Simbagraphix/test three]]

They will be red links for now, but you can click them and create them; your own 'working area' pages. You can also, of course, edit your user page and change the names or add more.

Regarding how to add references, I will add help on that on your own user talk page.  Chzz  ►  12:15, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I tried adding references but they didnt work, so I am looking to see what I did wrong. So any help or examples is appreciated. I have been working on the Persian Gulf area, and thus came across the Iran-Iraq battles which need upgrading and rewriting, as they are almost useless in their present form....Thanks for the help Simbagraphix (talk) 12:28, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

OK, so, sounds like an ideal case for working in userspace 'sandbox' areas. I added reference help; if you have any trouble with it, please ask.  Chzz  ►  12:46, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Great, I will set it up in sandbox and see if it works, then try to put it in the article with the revisions...Simbagraphix (talk) 13:51, 19 July 2010 (UTC).

nomination for did you know ...

Chzz I updated the text to put it into a wider context:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know#Light_front_holography

Best regards,

asterix —Preceding unsigned comment added by Conjecturix (talk • contribs) 21:24, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

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That amendment is not neutral; that it is a "new insight" and "could shed new light" is opinion, not fact. So, I put the original suggestion back and left the alternate there too, and we'll see what the reviewers say.  Chzz  ►  03:20, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

wik article on light front holography

Chzz I changed the proposed text to follow closely the wiki article. Thanks for your comment.

Regards, asterix —Preceding unsigned comment added by Conjecturix (talk • contribs) 04:09, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

OK, just wait a few days, see what happens. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  04:43, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Chzz,

Thank you for the guidance.

Best, asterix —Preceding unsigned comment added by Conjecturix (talk • contribs) 03:22, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

July 2010

Please check your email. Thanks--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 16:59, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Additional links provided--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 21:18, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

About blanking your talk page

I remember admins not allowing it a few years about. Was a rule changed or something? Heavydata (talk) 07:57, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

OK Thanks. I just remember some admins giving a user a hard time for blanking his talk page a few years ago. Sorry about the confusion. Heavydata (talk) 10:43, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

You just helped me

What I am doing with the Mestizo artcle is breaking it up into two articles. The Mestiço (Brazil) article needs to be different because they are two different words, in two different languages, with two different meanings. What I did is copy the information (yes it is original research) from the Mestizo article relevant to the Portugese word Mestiço and then created the Mextiço (Brazil) article out of that. The Sri Lanka Mestiço article needs to be separate as well becauese it too is different. Please put my Mextiço (Brazil) article back. I am working to improve both the Mestizo article and the Mextiço article as well. I have been working on these articles for only 10 minutes and I feel as if I have already been sabatoged. Chicaneo (talk) 12:51, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi there. I do understand, but, Wikipedia is 'live' - all the time - and so any article must meet the basic requirements, and must have references. I have copied the draft version to User:Chicaneo/Mestiço (Brazil), where you can work on it at your leisure. Once it is ready to be made a live article, it can simply be moved over. Thanks again,  Chzz  ►  12:56, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

That's a very good idea & I wish I'd thought of it first. Thank you. Chicaneo (talk) 13:10, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Redirects for discussion

I just noticed that you've only commented once on the RfD page prior to my nominations. Why? :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 00:57, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

(from your comment at Bridgeplayer's talkpage) You do realize that this goes farther back than your simple discussion, right? Did you bother not only to read the rationale I had for the RfD, but also took a look at this page? Or did you simply ignore my rationale?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by TeleComNasSprVen (talk • contribs)

You may also be interested in the extension to this thread: User talk:Bridgeplayer#Touché re Bouchee. Bridgeplayer (talk) 02:40, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

And this ... Wikipedia:Third opinion#Active disagreements Bridgeplayer (talk) 03:21, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Okay... I don't understand why you would be pointing out all my contributions to Chzz here... :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 03:27, 19 July 2010 (UTC)Oh, here's another discussion that may interest you...

I'm sorry; I do think I've tried to explain as best I can. Mostly, that PROD does not apply to redirects. In addition, that there is no point deleting redirects unless there is a compelling reason to do so, because it does not help improve Wikipedia, and for that reason, I consider lengthy discussion of it to be a waste of time.  Chzz  ►  18:50, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

is sara Palin email hack article supposed to be deleted?

I looked on the sara palin email hack talk page and it said that the article had be nominated for deletion. Is seems that the results are to delete. Why does it still exist ? Constitutionguard (talk) 08:02, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Re. Sarah Palin email hack

The deletion discussion was back in Sept 2008, and at that time, the article was deleted.

Subsequently, the article was re-worked considerably. The current incarnation is totally different from the one that was chosen for deletion. Any user could, if they wished, suggest deletion of the current article - with good reasons, of course - however that article is on probation - see Talk:Sarah Palin/Article probation - which means that it is wise to discuss any potentially controversial issues on the articles talk page before taking any action. Best,  Chzz  ►  13:05, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Why is the redirect of david kernell's name allow to stand ? If the article is deleted, should the redirect be deleted as well ? Seems they are still violating policy, and branding david kernell as the only one that entered her email. Also what about all the other redirects of his name ? Constitutionguard (talk) 22:33, 20 July 2010 (UTC) How would one re-work the article and put it up again legally ? Constitutionguard (talk) 22:35, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

The redirect seems valid to me, because if you simply search Google for that name, the vast majority of the hits concern the scandal; I do not think that David Kernell would be notable in his own right, as an article about him might fail WP:BLP1E, so it seems appropriate to have an article about the events, not the individual. That was also the consensus view shown in the recent discussion, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Kernell. The following comes from WP:BLP1E with my own bold;

Merely being in the news does not imply someone should be the subject of a Wikipedia article. If reliable sources cover the person only in the context of a single event, and if that person otherwise remains, or is likely to remain, a low-profile individual, we should generally avoid having an article on them. Biographies in these cases can give undue weight to the event and conflict with neutral point of view. In such cases, it is usually better to merge the information and redirect the person's name to the event article.

If you believe that an appropriate article about Kernell could be written, I would suggest making a user space draft, and working on it there, but as it has already been deleted several times, I recommend submitting it for a review rather than making it live yourself, perhaps via the WP:AFC process. If it could avoid BLP1E and show appropriate notability independent of that specific incident, that'd be fine; I have no idea if there is appropriate significant coverage for that or not.  Chzz  ►  23:09, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

User:English Jim/Recycle me free

Hi Chzz thank you for your advice, are there any wiki members that like to take over new articals from new members? to make them right. English Jim (talk) 13:35, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

It might be possible to make a short article, but, you do need those essential references to several independent, reliable sources, to show notability. That is, for example, 3 or more newspaper articles actually about the organization. That is the minimum requirement for any live article - general notability. Without that, it is not possible for anyone to create an accepted live article. You'd need to demonstrate exactly why this particular organization is notable enough to warrant inclusion.

You could list it in WP:RA - requested articles - but there is a huge backlog there. Of course, you could always help out by seeing if you could write any of them... Chzz  ►  14:40, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Sources

I added another source about Grzegorz Halama. I think it will be enough. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ArkadiuszEurope (talk • contribs) 14:53, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

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Re. Grzegorz Halama

I am concerned that lots of the article depends on non-reliable sources. Please review WP:V. In future, I suggest you make a user-space draft when working on a new article, before making it live. Best,  Chzz  ►  20:39, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

I would just like to say thanks for helping me with Wikipedia from when I first joined to now. It's been really helpful and I've learned a lot. So, thanks. And I'm sorry if I've said this before, but you're great. Chevymontecarlo 16:13, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Ta, you're welcome, any time. And if you fancy giving something back...do you have a few hours per week to spare, for about 10 weeks or so, from mid-August? A Wikimedia Foundation trial project thingy needs people to help out grad students using Wikipedia as part of a course, and we need all kinds of people that can give 'em a bit of help. If interested, sign up on Wikipedia:WikiProject United States Public Policy/Online Ambassadors. For more info, see outreachwiki:Using Wikipedia as a teaching tool in higher education (Bookshelf)  Chzz  ►  01:38, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

OK, when I get time I'll try and sign up. Thanks. Chevymontecarlo 05:18, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Just a token, really...

		The Articles for Creation barnstar
		Dear Chzz, I wanted to thank you for all of your AFC work with this, The Articles for Creation barnstar. From helping out users on IRC to helping me when I was newer with AfC, your dedication to AfC and to the wiki as a whole is truly inspiring. The primary reason for me giving you this barnstar now is your recent work re-reviewing all of the articles that were declined (or accepted) as a hoax. Thanks again for all that you do, ~Gosox(55)(55) 02:26, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!  Chzz  ►  20:10, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

{{tb|JohnCD|List of words having different meanings in Spain and Latin America}}

Re: NaomiTal/LettyEisenhauer

Hi Chzz-Thanks so much for your very thorough and very helpful explanation re: Letty Eisenhauer! I think I understand now. I tried clicking on the live chat link, but it took me to what looked like the end of the internet, so I'm leaving this note here. If I have more questions, I'll let you know. Thanks again!NaomiTal (talk) 00:16, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Heh, OK, that's fine too :-)

The live chat is good, but the interface looks scary - you only need to put in any nickname, and click 'go' - then you're in. It's really good. But anyway, yes, feel free to ask anything here, too. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  00:50, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Yep, the deletion makes total sense. Letty looks good up there, hope she stays around. I have a couple other articles pending in article submission limbo which should be ok'ed soon (I hope!). This is my first week writing articles, but if I'm doing well, I'd love to skip that extra submission process for the next couple of articles I write and just post them directly. Judging by my contributions thus far, do you think my articles will make it out in the wild on their own? Also, I couldn't tell if I was "autoconfirmed" or not, if that's even the word I mean...am I?NaomiTal (talk) 01:00, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Re. other AFC's — so, looking at Special:Contributions/NaomiTal, those would be;

• Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Dorothy Grebenak
• Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Evelyne Axell

I will look at those for you now, and let you know.

Re. auto-confirmed - yes, you should be; you only need to have made 10 edits, and the account must be 4 days old; you've made 112 edits, and you registration on 14 June. You can check, by clicking "my preferences" at the top-right; it should say;

Member of groups:	Autoconfirmed users

Note, instead of making a live article immediately, it is better to make a user space draft, and then moving it to the live area when it is ready.  Chzz  ►  02:10, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Megan Rye article

Thanks for the input - I'll be making the article stronger in the coming days! Rachelgregor (talk) 01:42, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Steamtown, USA

The DYK project (nominate) 06:03, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

how I download article for creation tool

I can't do it. Where do I download it. ċ--walderslade watercircus presents.... dum dum dummm THE AMAZING midget MAN!! ba baaaaa bannnn booom bom bom!! we hope you have a great time!! BOOOOOOM!!!!!! xx (talk) 15:14, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

This was answered elsewhere.  Chzz  ►  20:01, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Crime and Punishment (play)

The DYK project (nominate) 12:04, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Merge discussion for List of Spanish words having different meanings in distinct Spanish-speaking countries

An article that you have been involved in editing, List of Spanish words having different meanings in distinct Spanish-speaking countries, has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Cnilep (talk) 16:20, 22 July 2010 (UTC) Cnilep (talk) 16:20, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

MOTD Barnstar

		The MOTD Barnstar
		This award is given to you for helping out Motto of the day. Thanks to your effort, MOTD has brilliantly and successfully passed the most difficult period of the year. In fact, there are mottoes scheduled until the end of the summer. For this reason MOTD would like to express heartfelt thanks to you for your support. We appreciate your efforts in further helping the project! – delivered by Simply south on behalf of Wikipedia:Motto of the day 18:26, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Pearson Canada/Bio Cutting Edge PPT: Request for Permission

Hello John, I am coordinating permissions for a set of Powerpoint slides to accompany a collection of essays to be published by Pearson Canada.

We would like to include your of a toy police car that was seen on Wikipedia Commons:http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:J40_toy_car_police_car_model.jpg

May we please have your permission to use this image in our project?

Thanks, Terri email address removed —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.29.63.177 (talk) 16:05, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

The Austin J40 toy car

You don't need my permission, Terri; (almost) all the images on Commons can be used, by anyone, for any purpose.

The copyright holder of that particular image emailed permission to the Wikimedia Foundation, and we have that stored on file (privately) under a reference number, as shown on the image. They used the GFDL licence, so all you must do is, say where it comes from and that it is GFDL- include a link to it, http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:J40_toy_car_police_car_model.jpg, and include a link to the GFDL, http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:GNU_Free_Documentation_License - if you cannot provide an actual link, you can print them.

See Commons:Reuse for details. Cheers!  Chzz  ►  16:48, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Note: Discussed further via email. Chzz  ►  20:01, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

GEN article

Dear Chuzz (yo!)

I added a few "secondary sources" or at least I hope they are considered as such. Let me know what else I need to do to get the article up.

Take care Jeff —Preceding unsigned comment added by InternJeff (talk • contribs) 08:36, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Re. Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Geneva Environment Network

I have marked the request as 'declined' for now, but don't worry, you can always resubmit it - you can still edit the declined submission.

I've tried to explain why in the top of the declined page.

In addition, I suggest that you might benefit from editing some other articles, to gain a broader experience in Wikipedia, which would then put you in a better position to work on that one. Perhaps you could join Wikipedia:WikiProject Environment, for example.

Please do ask if I can help more. Best,  Chzz  ►  19:07, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Copied over to user talk for archival  Chzz  ►  10:56, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

:)

		All Around Amazing Barnstar
		For being generally awesome and for watching my talk page while I was away. —fetch·comms 21:01, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

No problem; hope you had a nice time; nothing drastic happened.  Chzz  ►  21:22, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Just saying Hi

Just saying a little hello. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thebirdlover (talk • contribs) 22:31, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Note re User talk:Chzz/Archive 5

Due to upcoming changes to {{fact}}, your archive at User talk:Chzz/Archive 5 will soon begin displaying "April 2009^{[citation needed]}" rather than the expected "^{[citation needed]}" in two places. AnomieBOT would have fixed this for you automatically, but the archive is fully protected. If you care, you may want to put in a {{editprotected}} asking for those to be changed to {{fact|date=April 2009}}. More info is available at Template talk:fact#Revival of Merge Discussion. Anomie⚔ 15:03, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Duly noted and cheerfully ignored, ta.  Chzz  ►  11:35, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback!

Hi Chzz, Just wanted to say Thank You for your feedback and guidance. I have moved Web content lifecycle to the Wikipedia and also added it to the Did You Know... list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cirrus Editor (talk • contribs) 14:03, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Answered on user talk  Chzz  ►  12:13, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Feedback is required.

Hi

I have created this article can you please give me your valuable feedback

The_Tim_Parry_Johnathan_Ball_Foundation_for_Peace

Kind Regards Niirvan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.53.148.2 (talk) 16:18, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

This is the editor I was mentioning^^, I have been helping them in help-channel. At least I think Hadianm, 86.53.148.2 , and Niirvan are all one person.

The articles in question:

• The Tim Parry Johnathan Ball Foundation for Peace
• User:Hadianm/Peace Centre

Phrase similarity found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrington_bomb_attacks

As The_Tim_Parry_Johnathan_Ball_Foundation_for_Peace, article was submitted to the July 22nd WP:FEED. I have posted some suggestions there.

Shearonink (talk) 17:54, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

First, and most important

It certainly looks like Niirvan (talk · contribs), Hadianm (talk · contribs) and 86.53.148.2 (talk · contribs) are all the same person. The general rule is, one editor, one account. Using different accounts or editing while not logged in can make people think you are trying to mislead people - I don't think you are, but to avoid any problems, please be very careful. Make sure you always log in, and if you do have two accounts, close one down.

Secondly, please be aware of policies regarding conflict of interest. If you are connected to the organization, please do not edit the article directly. Please read the busines FAQ, and this essay about best practices.

Thirdly, I had to remove large chunks of the article because they were copyright violations - ie they were copied, word-for-word, from other websites - see the page history.

I'm sorry to have to write all these warnings and cautions, but they are very important. I hope that I will be able to help you further in the future. Best,  Chzz  ►  12:20, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Syed Ahmad Shaheed

This article's names contains Shaheed which's a title.The real name of scholar,about which the article stands is Syed Ahmad Barelvi,which is redirects to Syed Ahmad Shaheed.I want to move the article to it proper name which is Syed Ahmad Barelvi,but i can't as it's a redirect.Will you delete This redirect and move the page to the deleted title? Thanks!

_Contribs Muslim Editor ^Talk 10:23, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Do you have reliable sources to show the correct primary title?  Chzz  ►  10:30, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

The article says his name was Syed Ahmad Barelvi,and i think that's enough to prove.

Check it here:Islamic honorifics

_Contribs Muslim Editor ^Talk 17:47, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

OK - I understand now about "Shaheed", I think. Barelvi presumably refers to the Barelvi movement? So, should that definitely be in the title - ie should it be "Syed Ahmad Barelvi" or just "Syed Ahmad"? But Syed Ahmed redirects to Syed Ahmed Khan; perhaps it should be a disambiguation page instead?

I see that in some (most?) books, they use "Syed Ahmad Barelvi", so if you think that is the most correct, I think the title can be changed to that; please let me know. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  18:00, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

No,no,it have nothing to do with so called "barelvi" movement,rather he formed a un succesfull hetrodox movement.The reason is that he was born near Bareli,India,so his name becaune Syed Ahmad Barelvi,Shaheed was honorific term added after his death in a terrorist activity.

Note:(Sir) Syed Ahmad,Syed Ahmad Barelvi and Ahmad Raza Khan Barelvi are three deferent personalities.and we're discussing about move of wrong name Syed Ahmad Shaheed to right and neutral name Syed Ahmad Barelvi...It seems you're confused!

_Contribs Muslim Editor ^Talk 03:30, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

OK, right, so some 'disambiguation' page/pages might help.

Let me check I now have this right; this person, currently in Syed Ahmad Shaheed, is called that a) because "Shaheed" is an honorary title, and b) because they come from the place Raebareli.

In that case, certainly they should not have the "Shaheed" part in the title. I'm not sure if they should have the "Barelvi" part in either, as it is not part of their actual name; if that is the common title used for them - per Wikipedia:Common name. I've seen both used in book searches, so I am not sure. If not, then the article title (theoretically) should be just "Syed Ahmad", but then because there are several possibilities for that name, we should disambiguate it in some way using parentheses, e.g. "Syed Ahmad (Raebareli)" or "Syed Ahmad (Islamic scholar)" or something.

My reasoning here is, e.g. someone called "John Smith" - we would not call the article "John Smith London" - we might call it "John Smith (London)" or "John Smith (doctor)".

Let me know what you think; let's sort this out properly. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  21:18, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Iron Mask (band)

Tnx a lot! I've already made some corrections according to Your advice!))) The administration said, that I have a week to make all the neccesary corrections. If not, they gonna delete it((((((((((( So, I would be grateful fir help in finding those reliable sources, 'cause you know, I'm not VERY expirienced in english (I live in Belarus), and now unfortunately I'm not able to differ these reliable sources from the others. Thanks anywaY!))) And by the way, in the article I provided the references, that other users advised me and that they considered these references to be reliable. Of course, it would be sad, if the article will be deleted, but anyway I will tell the guys form Iron Mask, that I did everything possible. Tons of TNX!))Dzimozz (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:31, 25 July 2010 (UTC).

If the article is deleted, that isn't the end of things; you can ask for a copy in your user-space, keep working on it, and possibly make it live again when it has been improved. There is no deadline.

For "Reliable sources" - it is really common sense; would you "trust" the website(s) to be accurate? We like references to actual publications - newspapers, magazines - because those have editorial control. User-generated content, such as reviews on blog-style websites, are not reliable sources.

If you ever want to check if a specific site is, or is not, a "reliable source" you can ask on the reliable sources noticeboard".

If the band have appeared in any printed magazines or newspapers, that would help a lot. Note, they do not have to be in English, and they do not have to be online. For example,

Chzz was born in 1803. <ref> "Інтэрв'ю з Chzz" (Interview with Chzz), Page 17, Звязда, April 1st 2010 </ref>

...if that were true, it would be OK as a reference.

If you cannot find enough coverage yet, then it may be deleted. It might not be notable yet. But you can ask for a copy, and if there are some articles in newspapers/magazines later, you could improve it.

I hope this helps, best,  Chzz  ►  12:27, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

TNX a lot! I know for sure, that Iron Mask has coverage in the japanese edition of Burrn! Magazine. There the band's brand new album "Shadow of the red baron" is pictured on the INNER cover. Unortunately, I cant, find the reference for inner cover. As I understand, I can mention this magazine as a reliable source?Dzimozz (talk) 17:28, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

It is a reliable source, but you'd need to actually read the mag, and refer to facts it states. You can't just reference it arbitrarily because you know that there is a picture of them; you'd have to use it for fact(s) in the article. The point is, verifiability - that the person reading the article should be able to "check the facts" if they want to, by finding whatever publication we refer to. So, if for example you reference that magazine, then a reader could get hold of a copy (perhaps through a library or whatever) and check that what you state is in the mag...do you get the idea? I'm not saying that they will check it, but it has to be possible for them to check it. If you obtain a copy of some magazine, and you use it as a reference, we will mostly assume good faith, and 'trust you' that the facts you reference are in the publication. People might check it, they might not...but you need to be honest about things. You can't reference something that you have not, yourself, read. Hope this helps,  Chzz  ►  17:53, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Well, my friend, if it's possible pls express your point of view about my article at it's deletion page - 'cause as I understood, it's gonna be deleted anyway((((((((((((Dzimozz (talk) 19:09, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi - thanks for the welcome and useful info! Marmouse999 (talk) 16:05, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

No problem; I hope you'll become a regular Wikipedian :-)  Chzz  ►  17:56, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Niirvan

Hi chzz,

First of all really thanks for your time and feedback, I was surprised when I saw the amount of work you have done on my page, Yes, both accounts are mine, I created one and changed my mind to use another id not for misleading for sure, how I can close the first one? Also I am not related to the peace centre.

Thanks again for your help, —Preceding unsigned comment added by Niirvan (talk • contribs) 20:37, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Can I publish my article now? Hope no one delete it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Niirvan (talk • contribs) 20:38, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi there. Thanks for the explanation; that's fine; I have marked the old account for you, I hope that is OK - see User:Hadianm.

So please, from now on, just use "Niirvan" - and try to remember to always log in. It saves any confusion.

From now on I will use Niirvan, I am going to publish my article soon. Thanks for your help agaaaaaaaaaaaaain —Preceding unsigned comment added by Niirvan (talk • contribs) 13:48, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

OK, that's cool; the above was my starting to reply, and I got distracted by other stuff; I did intend to write a bit more.

When you leave messages, please remember to "sign" your name, by putting ~~~~ (four tilde signs) at the end. This will add your name, and the date and time. You can also do this by clicking the 'sign' button, pictured to the right. And yes, I feel a total hypocrite telling you that - because I hadn't signed my earlier response part :/ - but, like I say, I was working on it, intended to add more before letting you know I'd replied - then got distracted by other help requests!

Re. The Tim Parry Johnathan Ball Foundation for Peace - it should be OK; as long as you use facts from reliable sources. If you do add to it, you might then want to put in a request for feedback too.

Just make sure it is all neutral - if you stick to 'cold, hard facts' from RS, you'll be fine.

I was living in Warrington at that time, as it happens; I'm sure that the org will count as 'notable' in Wikipedia terms. Just be very careful about the conflict of interest stuff; have a read of WP:BESTCOI. Good luck with it, and feel free to ask for help at any time.  Chzz  ►  14:07, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

David Kessler page

Hi Chzz,

I have edited the 'David Kessler' article so that is has more reliable independent sources. There are now 7 sources, only 1 is still his primary. The article's status is now held. Please reconsider it for acceptance on Wikipedia.

Thanks, Iginger99 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iginger99 (talk • contribs) 22:54, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

When you leave messages, please remember to "sign" your name, by putting ~~~~ (four tilde signs) at the end. This will add your name, and the date and time. You can also do this by clicking the 'sign' button, pictured to the right.

First, note that it may be changed from 'hold' to 'declined' after 24 hours or so; that does not matter at all, it is just procedural; you can carry on editing it, and you can always ask for a review later - the easiest way probably being just to ask me, here. There is no deadline.

There are a few remaining concerns, mostly that not all the facts are verifiable. Some example to illustrate follow, but this isn't an exhaustive list - I hope they will illustrate the things that need fixing, so please reconsider all of the article, not just these, in working to improve it;

• His experiences have taken him from Auschwitz concentration camp to Mother Teresa’s Home for the Dying Destitute in Calcutta. - the article on cvhp.org does not actually state these facts - Auschwitz is not mentioned, and the only part about Teresa is a quote.
• often quoted as saying, “Fear doesn’t stop death, fear stops life.” - "often" is a matter of opinion; also, any direct quotations need a reliable source directly after the quote.
• Re. Elizabeth Kübler-Ross, is the best-loved and most-respected authority - this is opinion, not fact; any such strong assertions must absolutely have a good, independent reliable source, or else they should be removed.
• External links - I'm not convinced that some of those add information about the subject fo this article - ie 5 Common Deathbed Experiences MSN, AOL Health, www.Grief.com, www.elisabethkublerross.com - please refer to the WP:EL policy on this

So - I'm sure that this individual will pass the 'notability' requirements, just some edits are required to ensure it is all neutral and verifiable. I repeat, there is no deadline, no rush; please see if you can address those concerns, and let me know. Best,  Chzz  ►  14:27, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you (re Tony Davies)

Thank you for your help, It is much appreciated. I will make the changes and re-submit when the article is credible. Thanks again you for your time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by P067874 (talk • contribs) 14:05, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

When you leave messages, please remember to "sign" your name, by putting ~~~~ (four tilde signs) at the end. This will add your name, and the date and time. You can also do this by clicking the 'sign' button, pictured to the right.

OK, no problem - but note, the article has not yet been deleted. It is currently up for a 'deletion discussion', which will go on for at least 7 days; you are very welcome to try to fix the concerns during that time, and indeed to contribute to the discussion in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tony Davies (Businessman).

If it cannot be fixed within that time, that isn't the end of the world either. There is no deadline on Wikipedia; if it is deleted, you can ask for a copy of it in your own userspace, and if later on you can improve it, it could be reconsidered.

My #1 tip is, to work on some other articles; Conflict of interest is a very tricky area, and if you edit some other things, you'll learn much more about the ways of Wikipedia.

Re. "examples of wikipedia pages I could look at for inspiration" - I suggest you browse through good articles or featured articles for such inspiration. Notice how they are factual, and based on independent reliable sources, with lots of references.

Best of luck with it all, and please feel free to ask for help at any time.  Chzz  ►  14:33, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

The Ratinator/Solar Rocker issue

is now at WP:ANI. See you there. Beeblebrox (talk) 16:53, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Great, thanks for letting me know.  Chzz  ►  17:02, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

I had a feeling you might have a word or two to say on the subject... Beeblebrox (talk) 18:50, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

David Kessler Page

Hi Chzz, I improved the David Kessler page by implementing your suggestions. Thanks!--Iginger99 (talk) 21:39, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

RE:Help

Thanks! However, the current version seems to be the one intended. Thanks for the feedback, and I would have appreciated that the particular user should have made concerns on the talk page before making a massive overhaul that could demote an article from featured status. I know they are going to go back and try to change things again to in good faith, but I don't want to see the article demoted (it was already barely hanging on from being nomination a few weeks ago), just due to an avid fan (per their username). Candyo32 00:06, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

I understand; don't panic though - no deadline, and all that.

I'm very impressed that you started talking to them on their talk page, and that they've entered discussions on Talk:Rihanna discography. Nice. I hope that doesn't sound condescending, it's just that common sense is so rare these days.

I do understand your concerns; at this srage though, it seems like all parties are prepared to work to a consensus, which is great.

If you have any problems, please give me a shout, here, and I'll try to help. We wouldn't want the wrong version would we? :-)

By which I mean...if it gets complicated, the article could just be fully-protected for a bit...and allow you all to fight it out discuss it on the talk page. WP:RPP if you need that, or give me a shout.  Chzz  ►  00:30, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Alright, thanks!! Candyo32 00:50, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Curious as to Link Article

Hi Chzz, I am curious as to how to link articles. I have submitted two articles that are related and should be linked. How do I do that, one is an orphan article? Loreen Sherman (Loreensherman (talk) 02:47, 27 July 2010 (UTC)).

Answered on user talk.

Mod

Are you a wikipedia moderator of sorts? I see you made a comment on a page I've edited, and I am worried about a second used constantly reverting back to an edited version of the page that is a BOLV and a)sometimes unsubstantiated and b)quite slanted/biased/libelous.

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cnvb (talk • contribs) 04:19, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Answered on user talk.

Wow...

So, you go on a power trip in IRC, then you set my userpage to a redirect elsewhere, just because I said I wanted to re-do my userpage some? Congratulations. --ANowlin: talk 06:09, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Answered via personal messages.

July 2010

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to User:Anowlin, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Redirecting my page to a policy, over the fact I wanted to re-do it a little? Thanks a lot. Kindly, do not modify my userpage again. --ANowlin: talk 06:10, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK

See comment at holography dyk. — Rlevse • Talk • 23:05, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Is now in the queue.  Chzz  ►  17:39, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Provide information

You have deleted an article VELLALORE , Thinking that it is Vellur. These two are entirely different. For proof see google maps or wikimap —Preceding unsigned comment added by Comrade Bharat (talk • contribs) 07:01, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Answered on user talk; AFAIK nothing at all to do with me. Chzz  ►  18:00, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Texas Chainsaw Massacre

See response and details provided at HERE Even a simple Google seaach of "Frontera, Massacre, Chainsaw" turns up 60++ articles and mentions. Maybe a better citation is needed, but the facts are not in dispute. I'll change the citation and start over. Austex • Talk 18:47, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Answered on user talk re. WP:SYNTH etc.  Chzz  ►  18:13, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Help!

Hi there CHZZ, My personal troll is back again under User:Karljioos. ¿Could you help me? --Karljoos (talk) 18:04, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

It's all fixed now. Sorry to bother you.--Karljoos (talk) 18:39, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Added note on UT.  Chzz  ►  18:29, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Meditation

Hi, I think the sense of humor of a few people is being tested on: Talk:Meditation#page_needs_a_mindfulness_section_-_secular_meditation as in this edit. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 20:18, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm truly sorry that I cannot help you more directly at this time; I'm taking a break from Wikipedia.

I suggest you consider Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts, and see WP:DISPUTE for many options, including Wikipedia:Third opinion, Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal etc, if those should become necessary. But my top advice has to be, Wikipedia:Staying cool when the editing gets hot and Wikipedia:No angry mastodons.

Best of luck in your endeavours,  Chzz  ►  18:38, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

No worries. Thank you anyway. History2007 (talk) 18:56, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Template

Hello. In case you missed it, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk%3AJudaism&action=historysubmit&diff=376023168&oldid=375660180. Thanks, 212.84.100.213 (talk) 11:51, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Answered on Template talk:Judaism#Template's width and cf. User talk:Debresser#Template_talk:Judaism#Template's width  Chzz  ►  19:43, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks !

Dear Chzz. Thank you for your help with this article. It has now been expanded and updated.

Best, Conjecturix Conjecturix (talk) 22:43, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Operation Burnt Frost

— Rlevse • Talk • 00:03, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Aberdeen Student Show

Hello! Your submission of Aberdeen Student Show at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Dabomb87 (talk) 04:03, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank

YOU! I saw your post at ANI and was relieved to see it was OK. Looks like I was fussing over nothing. Sorry for it. But thank you always. You are really a big help. Best regards. Oda Mari (talk) 16:26, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

No worries; as a copyright concern, I thought ANI might get a quick response. Shortly afterwards, MuZeMike kindly had a look, and at the same time I checked things myself. It does appear to need better attribution, but it isn't necessarily an 'emergency' concern - but still, in such high-profile matters, I think it is better to be safe than sorry; thanks again for highlighting it.  Chzz  ►  16:46, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Query re "retrieved citation"

Thank you for replying so quickly to the query I raised just a few minutes ago. JackJud (talk) 16:49, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Yay!

Good to see you are getting back slowly. Now get rid of the notice at the top of th page. After you have done that, check out what I did with your script at my vector js file. Cheers!--Forty two^{Thanks for all the fish!} 06:24, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

The {{!!}} template again

Hi Chzz, you helped me on this issue a month ago, now it re-occurred in a slightly different manner. See User talk:Pgallert#Syntax help needed again, if you have time. Thanks, Pgallert (talk) 14:56, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

 Done See user talk.  Chzz  ►  15:14, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Messages from Allyplayspoker

I think I made a mistake...is this where I write back? Soory...I put a message in 'archive'..this is confusing. Allyplayspoker (talk) 18:44, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Yes, you did create an archive page - but I've moved your comment here, to my talk page. Also, I made a new section at the end...that is where you should put new comments on talk pages, at the end, and in a new section for a new discussion.  Chzz  ►  18:50, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Message moved from archive:

Oops -Sorry, I do not know how to use the 'talk pages' or the computer for the most part. I apologize. Thank you. Allyplayspoker (talk) 18:41, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

No problem. Hopefully this has made it a bit clearer.  Chzz  ►  18:50, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Question

Hi, I have a question about boxing title.

What does Vacant EBU-EU (European Union) middleweight title mean?

I am interested in word "vacant".

Look: http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=301164&cat=boxer - You can find this title in Grzegorz Proksa's penultimate fight.

Did he acquire this title? If not, what does it mean? What means word "vacant" in this sentence?

Please answer on my talk page.

Greetings.

--ArkadiuszEurope (talk) 22:21, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

'Vacant' means that, for some reason, there was no current title holder - because they retired undefeated, or some other reason. He did indeed win the title...

The title became vacant May 29 when the WBO stripped lineal champion Sergio Martinez, who had claimed the lineage and two sanctioning organization belts by outpointing Kelly Pavlik on April 17. But because Martinez also holds a junior middleweight belt, and the WBO wanted a decision on which title he would defend before Martinez had made up his mind, he was stripped. ^[1]

See also here.

(This reply copied over to the users talk page too)

 Chzz  ►  23:00, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Another message from Allyplayspoker

Ooops...I did it again...sorry - I wrote in the wrong place to 76Strat...this is so confusing. Thanks...Sorry too. Allyplayspoker (talk) 22:46, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

That's absolutely fine; you put the message in the right place - on User talk:My76Strat - but, a) you didn't need to put {{helpme}}, and b) you should have put it in a 'new section' on his page. I've fixed that, with this edit.

I'm sure that My76Strat will see your message next time he logs in.

I also added a section heading to your message here. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  23:14, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you Chzz. Allyplayspoker (talk) 23:37, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Making it unbiased....?????

I am trying to figure out how to sound unbiased. That company was the first to prove its art-form in an often negative and biased world. Can you help me make it unbiased so that I can learn for the next article? The article pending is located at: Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Buzz Foto.

Thanks, --Mambopolice (talk) 23:35, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

You need to stick to 'cold hard facts' which come from independent, reliable sources. Maybe this will illustrate a bit;

Buzz Foto is a unique global photo agency based in Los Angeles. Founded by veteran photojournalist Brad Elterman and Henry Flores, between the two of them combined, they have 45 years experience in the photo industry. What sets Buzz Foto apart from their competition is their passion for their craft creating iconic and elegant imagery for the international media. The agency strives for a photograph that is alive and entertaining with the street as their background. The company only works with a tight network of trained photographers who also share the founders passion for the creation of iconic Paparazzi imagery.

This is the third photo agency for co-founder Brad Elterman, who in 1974, sold his first photograph of Bob Dyan to a British newspaper. Elterman went on to open the first ever West Coast celebrity photo agency, California Features International, Inc. in 1980.

In 1985, Brad Elterman authored, SHOOT THE STARS: How To Become A Celebrity Photographer which brought him television appearances on Oprah, CNN and The Tom Synder Show. The book was featured in magazines and newspapers worldwide.

In 1992, he co-founded Online USA, Inc.{{fact} on his kitchen table with a couple of credit cards and then went on to sell the company to Getty Images in 2000. CBS Market watch hailed the deal as " Deal Of The Day".

 Chzz  ►  00:00, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

COOL... I can do that. Thanks, --Mambopolice (talk) 07:14, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

oops

Sorry I did not know that I was stealing from Amazon, I was citing it when reseaqrching the book I figured I would add in their review. now I know not to ha thank you Cjones132002 (talk) 00:21, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Round Rock,Texas

The poster you removed was from the Wikkipedia page for the movie, The Rookie, and was already licensed and in use on that page. It is on Wikimedia. I did not download it from a movie site. Austex • Talk 03:54, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but that is not correct. It is not 'licenced'.

It is a non-free image, and as such, can only be used under strict conditions, which include the need for a specific rationale for each article it is used on.

It is OK for use on the article about the movie itself - and the rationale is given on the file, File:Rookie02poster.jpg. Please look at the "Rationale for use on wikipedia in the article The Rookie (2002 film)".

However, I do not think that we can justify the use of that image in the Round Rock, Texas article; it is not directly relevant to the subject of that article, it does not add to the understanding of the topic - and also, if it is representing the place, then a free alternative could exist, therefore we cannot use a non-free image.  Chzz  ►  04:15, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

OK. Thanks for the clarification. I enjoy learning something new every day. Austex • Talk 13:57, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Arigatou

Thanks yet again Chzz - this time for these edits. Trafford09 (talk) 15:04, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Aberdeen Student Show

— Rlevse • Talk • 18:02, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

If you're interested

On the Mat from our wonderful IP friend in AfC could be a GA, if you have time to put it up for review and watch it. Maybe it'll give you a little something to work on while trying to avoid drama? If not, I'll ask around, maybe take it on myself (although I've found from professional wrestling in New Zealand that wrestling is not my thing :P). —fetch·comms 20:51, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Best to ask around, to be honest; I have a huge list of 'things to do', I'm not short of ideas! From a quick look...yes, it does look worthwhile. I'll help if/when I can, of course.  Chzz  ►  12:30, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

OK, no probs. —fetch·comms 18:30, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

E.A Sims

Okay, a seeming contradiction here. You removed the bit about his death, citing BLP concerns, but the article was created with that bit in there. And then if there's no info about his death, it should be subject to {{prod blp}}. What's the answer? 69.181.249.92 (talk) 04:46, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

When I first saw it, I actually thought it might be a hoax, because the popular computer game series The Sims is produced by EA. I checked for news and other sources, and confirmed existence, but not much else; I'm not sure of the name - if it should be "EA Sims", "E.A. Simms" or some variant; sources disagree...but I'm confident that the person exists.

My first action was to remove a recent, unreferenced claim of a death. I think that was reasonable; I couldn't find any news of the death, so it was a "BLP concern" in essence.

Whether a BLP-Prod applies or not is up for debate. Possibly a normal PROD for lack of notability could apply, thus avoiding the somewhat tricky and delicate issue of trying to BLP Prod someone who the author claims has died.

I think, probably, the best bet is to raise this on WP:BLPN - I'll do so now.  Chzz  ►  04:59, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

As I wrote that, I see the part about his death has been reinstated. Posted on Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#E.A Sims  Chzz  ►  05:05, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I wondered about the hoax thing too. Might want to ping the article creator about sources while you're being so proactive about this. 69.181.249.92 (talk) 05:09, 7 August 2010 (UTC) PS - I see you already have. Shoulda known. :D 69.181.249.92 (talk) 05:10, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

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Hmm... Strange, it seemed to think that every page was a redirect... Seems my recent changes introduced a bug, anyway it went okay apart from that. - EdoDodo ^talk 12:11, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Fixed now so shouldn't happen again, sorry :(. - EdoDodo ^talk 12:17, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

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OK, ta. Does that meant that all of those worked - it made pages that didn't exist, and worked for IPs? Ie, does the 'completed successfully' indicate all were OK, and if one or more had failed for whatever reason, it'd have told me?  Chzz  ►  15:17, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

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Two possible 'bugs' - nothing critical, but worth mentioning, I think;

• It has written "Redirected here from User talk:USERNAME." on all of them, and I can't see anything wrong with the usernames provided. Oh, struck; stupid me; you knew about that, and said so above  Chzz  ►  16:56, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

• When it makes a new talk page, it leaves a blank line at the top before the section heading, which leaves some whitespace at the top of the page. (Pretty trivial, but prob also easy to fix?)

Examples (of both issues): User talk:Kfmwork User talk:Sbyers1234 User talk:79.153.217.79.  Chzz  ►  16:53, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

The first one is already fixed, as for the second one it's not quite so see easy to fix unfortunately :(. The blank line is needed because when it isn't creating the page it needs to put in a blank line to properly separate the new section from previous ones, so to avoid that the bot would have to know if it is creating the page or not, which at the moment it doesn't. I'll look into fixing it though, but it will require a fair bit of code. - EdoDodo ^talk 16:57, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Yep, understood; I've had similar troubles myself in the past.

On the + side, you might think of adding a 'feature' for new pages - O Automatically welcome users when talk page does not exist

Just a thought.  Chzz  ►  17:09, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Second bug above is fixed, and that feature has been added. See User talk:EdoDodo/5 for an example of how this looks. If you would like to change the welcome message ( you are probably know better than me what would be best for a new user :) ) feel free to do so here (that page is substituted when delivering a message to a new user), currently it's just a copy of Template:Welcome. - EdoDodo ^talk 17:27, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

That 'welcome' is as good as any, really - well, everyone has opinions on a 'good welcome' - mine is user:chzz/w - but that one is fine. Just one thing - does it put it into a new section? I imagine not...and that often causes confusion to new users. I suggest changing the '''Welcome''' to == Welcome == as long as that won't confuse things with the bot. If welcomes are in a section, it gets users off to a good start, with 'good practice' re. sections; I find it often stops them placing help requests and suchlike at the top of their talk page instead of the end.  Chzz  ►  17:39, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Oh, also, it should stick a sig on the end of the welcome, even if it is signing as the bot; otherwise, the welcome talking about the need to sign sounds a bit hypocritical.  Chzz  ►  17:41, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Also also (sorry, but I'm sure you know only too well, bot things are never that simple) - for IP users, that 'welcome' is not appropriate; it'd have to be {{Welcome-anon}} or a variant.  Chzz  ►  17:43, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Should all be sorted. The message is now signed with the requester's name (more personal than having it signed by the bot, and gives the new user a place to ask questions), and the template will automatically identify if the user is an IP, and then substitute one of two templates accordingly. Basically the template will use the IP welcome if the username contains only numbers, this is similar to how {{Wel}} works. - EdoDodo ^talk 18:07, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good; I'll try to give it another go some time. The only slight concern I'd have there is about users with names like our friends User:7 and User:42 etc... I'd have thought there might be some smarter way of recognizing non-registered users...but I don't know. Good stuff though.  Chzz  ►  18:10, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately using a template there is no way of identifying if a user is an IP or a registered user... I might write some code for it later so that the bot does it though. - EdoDodo ^talk 18:19, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

 Done I guess 'later' == 'now' :P. - EdoDodo ^talk 18:26, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

New, but need to learn more first...

Thanks for your comment on my first attempt, although encouraging I was not comfortable with the content, will reconsider (re)creating the page. Now it is tagged for deletion. I think it is better to "walk the ordinary way" with first edits before new articles etc... Thanks anyway. OmeLuuk (talk) 21:37, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

OK...I'm not quite sure why you asked for deletion; it was fine. It was better than most articles. But anyway...that is your choice. good luck,  Chzz  ►  00:32, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Re:Harvard referencing

Hi there. Thanks for sorting them out for me. It was the first time I'd attempted to use that style of referencing so I was getting a little bit muddled. Thanks also for the explanation, it seems to be fairly straightforward once you get the hang of it. I think there's one more reference I've got to consolidate so I'll have a go in the next day or so and see if I can do it. Would it be all right to give you a shout if I get stuck? TheRetroGuy (talk) 16:22, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Yes, sure; you might also want to read through User:Chzz/help/harvard. But yes - definitely ask for help again if you have trouble.  Chzz  ►  16:38, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. TheRetroGuy (talk) 16:40, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

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Paul Laviolette

Thank you for edititng my Paul LaViolette page. I am not sure is it worthwile to put more effort to as he requested in the past to be removed from Wikipedia. I wish I knew what are the reasons?

Radova (talk) 11:55, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Previous deletion discussion is in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paul LaViolette (2nd nomination).

Note, the new article was proposed for deletion [2] but I removed the proposal [3] because I think that a discussion is warranted. Best,  Chzz  ►  15:31, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

copied to user talk; now Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paul LaViolette (3rd nomination).  Chzz  ►  20:54, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for fixing my mistake. Sorry about that. Beeshoney (talk) 10:24, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank You (from Vs26)

Hey Chzz,

Thank you so much for all your precious help! You made me feel very welcome and comfortable on Wikipedia right from the start. I'm grateful for your support all along.

Sincerely,

--Vs26 (talk) 04:43, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

And this is a sample reply.  Chzz  ►  04:45, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

And this is how I talk again? Vs26 (talk) 04:54, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Yep, great. And all pages work just the same way. Whether on the reference desk, the helpdesk, the village pump, or project talk pages like e.g. WikiProject Computer science or whatever.  Chzz  ►  04:56, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Talk page archiving

Hi, I wanted to say that the archiving on my talk page doesn't seem to be working - maybe I tampered with it or something, because there's stuff there that's 20+ days old and haven't been archived yet. So, can you please take a look? Thanks a lot, Chevymontecarlo 09:42, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

OK; I think I fixed it; I don't think it had ever worked, due to an incorrect setting, probably my fault.

I set the time-period to 14 days, which was in the original request; it should work within 24 hours, so lets see.  Chzz  ►  17:26, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing it - I will be away all weekend (Bristol Balloon Fiesta!) so I will be back Monday, but won't probably be on here until Tuesday-time. Chevymontecarlo 17:37, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Working; so archived this and see User_talk:Chevymontecarlo#To_Chevvy_from_Chzz.  Chzz  ►  23:50, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of The Buckminster Fuller Challenge

Hello! Your submission of The Buckminster Fuller Challenge at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 08:45, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Done, accepted now.  Chzz  ►  06:37, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Light front holography

— Rlevse • Talk • 18:03, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

CCP thang

Hi, sorry for a late thanks but i was kinda worn out yesterday. Hope will find some shots at last. Enjoy your break, but don't let us hang! Benuliak 21:39, 15 August 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Benuliak (talk • contribs)

Gentry McCreary

Re. 00:04, 16 August 2010 (UTC) Gentry McCreary (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) User_talk:Fetchcomms#Gentry_McCreary

Thaibishop1 (talk · contribs) has been blocked indefinitely "Block evasion: (User:Thabishop)"

Thabishop (talk · contribs) was blocked 16 July 2010 "trolling, disruption or harassment"

Gentry McCreary (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) was deleted "G5: Creation by a blocked or banned user in violation of block or ban"

 Chzz  ►  17:50, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Break

On a break. Sorry folks; see replies in archives; probably User_talk:Chzz/Archive_25

Have a good one. You'll be missed. ----moreno oso (talk) 04:38, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Ditto. Nortonius (talk) 08:57, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

It is no big deal; Wikipedia should not cause personal stress, and it is doing, a bit; so, I'm stepping away - hopefully not for long. Thanks,  Chzz  ►  18:54, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Good to hear from you, thanks for bothering - take as long as it takes, it took me 2 years last time! With you in spirit. Nortonius (talk) 22:36, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Awww, i'd hate to see you go, you were always helpful in IRC. I guess i'll be taking over  :-) Dwayne was here! ♫ 23:03, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

:-) Nortonius (talk) 17:31, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Better said than not said.

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		It is said The Tireless Contributor Barnstar may be awarded to especially tireless Wikipedians who contribute an especially large body of work without sacrificing quality. That being so, I see none more befitting this barnstar than you! My76Strat 03:29, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

I second that^^. :) It's very well-deserved. I feel kinda 'handicapped' in the help channel without you there. Bejinhan talks 13:57, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Come back soon

Have a nice break. We all need one at times. You'll be missed in the meantime. — Rlevse • Talk • 15:56, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Ditto. You did a great job archiving my talkpage and this bear has another project for you that's on the humorous side. ----moreno oso (talk) 16:19, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

moreno oso will be thinking about you and raiding your fridge - no charge!

Yes, please come back soon.--Forty two^{Thanks for all the fish!} 17:46, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, folks; these messages are appreciated. I've popped in to respond to questions/followups on my talk page, but indeed I am taking time-out to consider some things. If/when I am able to elaborate and/or return, I shall do so (or feel free to keep in touch via email).  Chzz  ►  19:09, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Lol at the failure to stay away completely! :P Come back soon, but only when you're ready - -en-help is not the same without you! Stwalkerster [ talk ] 21:08, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Indeed, Helpmebot just can't match Chzz when it comes to helping people. — The Earwig ^(talk) 23:17, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Have a(nother) barnstar!

		The Helping Hand Barnstar
		Ever since I started on the IRC, I've seen you offer a lot of help to new and old users alike. Chzz, on behalf of all those you've helped (including me), thank you, and we hope this Wikibreak isn't forever. Come back soon man! --ANowlin: talk 05:00, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Ditto here. And also know that if such an award existed, I would give you the barn itself to display the barn-stars. My76Strat 05:30, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, too Chzz, I wouldn't have known where to begin.

A code-challenged newbie Angeles Lady (talk) 16:22, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Here here - best IRC & WP-helper ever? Trafford09 (talk) 15:08, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, probably. I would say so :) Chevymontecarlo 13:50, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Dat one is cool! Wish I'd get one mslf (on a date) ,-) Benuliak 21:41, 15 August 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Benuliak (talk • contribs)

IP user

Hi Chzz!

Sorry to hear about to hear that you're not feeling so well, I hope that you will be better soon!

I have a question for you, if you can help me I would be very grateful and happy!

I wrote an article about Angelo Keder for a couple of months ago. I remember that you accepted this article on Wikipedia (thanks for that). But yesterday someone called 'Sfan00 IMG' did something about the article... I'm not sure how to fix it back to the ordinary article which I wrote. Can you please help me with that when you are feeling well please? :)

I thought that the the article I wrote was accepted but he told me that I didn't have copyrights for the pictures. Even though I wrote down everything about the pictures I have put up on Wikipedia with name of the writer and when the newspaper was done and things like that from the beginning... I think that it's very sad for me to see my own article disappear because I was so proud of it...

Thanks in advance

Get well! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.233.137.19 (talk) 00:13, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Most important - I suggest you get a user account - for many reasons.

When you leave messages, please remember to "sign" your name, by putting ~~~~ (four tilde signs) at the end. This will add your name, and the date and time. You can also do this by clicking the 'sign' button, pictured to the right.

Hi there! I am fine, thanks; a 'wikibreak' is not necessarily illness; sometimes, Wikipedia can be stressful - and I find it best, at such times to stand back - WP:NAM!

Re. Angelo_Keder - the article is fine; there may be some problems with the links, as removed by Sfan00 IMG (talk · contribs) - and I've asked that user to clarify, right here. Best,  Chzz  ►  00:44, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

The links were commented, because on the face of it the source given seemed a little odd, Zippyshare seems to be a file sharing service, and in the past I've found that stuff sourced to such sites tends to have unclear status with regards to copyrights.

If it's a credible source, then I would normally expect it to have been published on a more obviously credible site.Sfan00 IMG (talk) 13:00, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

I did see your note just after you posted it. Perhaps he will come around eventually. So nice to see you again. Your wisdom, diligence, and consideration are missed when you take breaks. รัก-ไทย (talk) 00:52, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination for Way Off Broadway Dinner Theatre

Hello, your nomination of Way Off Broadway Dinner Theatre at DYK was reviewed and I had a question in regards to it. --NortyNort (Holla) 03:40, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Removal of content

Why did you removed citated content from Sunni Dawat-e-Islami,specially content in activity section?

Coercorash^TalkContr. 01:34, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

I used explanatory edit summaries; if you wish to discuss the issue, please raise it on the talk page Talk:Sunni Dawat-e-Islami so that we can work towards a consensus, thanks.  Chzz  ►  01:42, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

(copied reply to user talk, to archive this  Chzz  ►  02:12, 17 August 2010 (UTC))

Thank you so much :)

Hi Chzz, really thanks a lot for your great help for my page user:silena/Eonon. It's really important and useful to me! Now I have revised my article according to your guidance, I've added the necessary verify references. Could you review again? Is it all ready for me to add an new orgnazation article? Really appreciate your great effort! All the best! Silena (talk) 08:06, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

New award (first transclusion)

		The Barn itself
		It is said The Barn itself may be awarded to Wikipedians whose contributions encompass the merit of numerous barnstars. That being so, I see none more befitting this barn than you! My76Strat 23:37, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

This could of not gone to a better Wikipedian. Mlpearc powwow 01:13, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Agree GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 21:52, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Way Off Broadway Dinner Theatre

The DYK project (nominate) 00:04, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

AFC submission

Chzz as your time permits can you review this WP:AFC. The new user who was inquiring at the en-help channel seemed to be an interested Wikipedian who might benefit from some of your guidance, Cheers. My76Strat 03:14, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Re. Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Caroline test

Article has now been accepted. Shoplifter (talk · contribs) has been around since 2005, 2000+ contribs, and generally appears to know what they're doing; they / you are quite welcome to ask for any specific types of help, of course. As always,  Chzz  ►  02:54, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for The Buckminster Fuller Challenge

Courcelles 18:02, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Chzz. You have new messages at Trafford09's talk page.
Message added 11:47, 16 August 2010 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

NB: Main thing: - Utd. v. Newc. 8pm Mon. :) Trafford09 (talk) 11:47, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

3-0 win - nice start to the season for MUFC.

Anyway, certain photos would be very useful. I don't know if all attended this year's European Go Championship, but I wonder if they could supply (with identifying captions):

• Csaba Mérő
• Catalin Taranu
• Svetlana Shikshina
• Ilya Shikshin
• Thomas Debarre
• Artem Kachanovskyy
• Mihai Serban
• Mateusz Surma
• Anson Ng

I think I could use all these, but a subset would still be great. Thanks for your help Chzz. Trafford09 (talk) 23:47, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Can you find specific photos from their website - URLs - so we can ask for them that way? P.S. Yes, good start; I'm secretly quite pleased about Blackpool too though, because I've watched 'em many times. Chzz  ►  23:50, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Chzz, sorry for my delay. I realise this must be annoying when you've gone to the trouble of kindly approaching EurogoTV on our behalf. I've tried a couple of times to catch you on IRC to explain, but missed you. This delay on my part has been caused by [1] keeping up to date with the 400+ pages on my Watchlist (excl. user pages) - I'm sure yours is prob. thousands!, and [2] discovering Portals, & adding them to Go articles etc. which have been recently tagged for deletion, & others that may have also been.

Yes, I will try to find specific photos from their website - you mean the link you gave me on my Talk? One major problem may be that I don't know on the whole who is who! However, I see that some of the photos have now been tagged with names, so maybe I'll be lucky.

I'm afraid there will be a further delay on my part for this shortish period which has also meant I've had to do real-life activities more than I'm apt!. So I'll be back in touch after that, hoping your contact appreciates (prob. not the right word) WP's No Deadline stance.

As for Blackpool FC, well yes, they're doing brilliantly. Holloway used to be Argyle's manager, so I know his history a bit, & will have seen 1 or 2 Plymouth games while he was in charge there. Hope their season ends up without relegation despite the bookies.

So, be seeing you ere long. Take care, Trafford09 (talk) 22:07, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

I understand; but...it is hard to get permission for pictures. Therefore, when people are kind enough to respond, asking which we want, it is best to simply write back and list a few files. Maybe just two or three or something...not too many. Anything - doesn't matter.

Once a dialogue is established, we can always ask for more later.

So, yes...please look at the piccies on Eurogotv.com and just pick a few that might be useful.

Then we can request permission for those. Hope you'll get this before/during your trip...if I don't hear back I might try and pick a few myself, although I might not be around much either (as stated up top). Cheers,  Chzz  ►  02:31, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

To be honest, it is probably easier if you email them back, in follow-up to the email I sent before and passed to you - because you know a lot more about it.

I get the impression that if we ask for selected pics, they will send back the completed permission, so it is just a case of asking.

I think you should already have a copy of the email I sent them, and their reply?

If not, let me know.  Chzz  ►  21:26, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

irc // out to lunch

Hi, you were right, I'm using the Fae nick on en-help. It's my doppelgänger here too. Drop a note any time. Thanks Fæ (talk) 15:57, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

With regard to Jim Lemley pic, I've left a note for the uploader; diff. Thanks, Fæ (talk) 21:20, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! :)

	The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
	Thank you so much for helping User:Mikebloom819 while I was away. I really appreciate it; it's good to know that there are users who care to help others when they don't have to. Have a nice day! :) --Meaghan :) ≈ 02:28, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks :-) And no problem. The user actually came into the live chat, as they had troubles because the specific Wikia didn't like them making user sub-sub-pages, so I explained how to change it to use just subpages, and they got it working. Happy customer.  Chzz  ►  02:39, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Feedback on Bird Group

Hi Chzz, Thanks for your feedback on my article - Bird Group. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird_Group As suggested, I have provided references where citations were needed and deleted facts that are not from a neutral point-of-view. Also, I've gone through the section on Conflict of Interest and would appreciate your advice - I created this page to help a former colleague who's worked with this company. Would that count as Conflict of Interest? I'd be happy to make necessary changes to ensure the article meets Wikiepdia's standards and would really value your feedback.

Thanks again, --DebbieHaldur (talk) 09:30, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi there :-)

When you leave messages on talk pages, please put new things at the end of the page, not the beginning. keep things in chronological order...hence I moved this down here.

Now, re. Bird Group... notice, there, I just put [[Bird Group]] and it makes a link...

From a brief look, it is 'OK'. All articles on Wikipedia are 'works in progress', so all have scope to improve (yes, even featured articles)...so, I suggest several things;

• WP:DEVELOP gives some ideas
• Please try to link from some other articles to this one, so that it isn't an WP:ORPHAN.

However, more important than all of this is...your best option...edit and improve some other articles. Because all of your edits, so far, are to this one article, yours is a single purpose account. If you help improve other articles, you'll a) learn more about Wikipedia, b) meet other Wikipedians who can help you with things, c) be a much more 'valued' (for wont of a better term) member of the community. Re. COI / former colleague - yes, you do have a conflict of interest to some degree, but COI does not mean you cannot edit; it means you need to take great care to be neutral.

The same goes for Pkmishra264 (talk · contribs), who I presume is a colleague? Best,  Chzz  ►  10:41, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi Chzz,

Thanks for your valuable suggestions!

As suggested, i have linked one other article to this article. In addition to this, i am looking for few more articles which can be linked to this so that it is not "Orphan".

Also, i went through the pages you suggested. I will keep improving the page as and when i get an idea to do so to make page better and better.

However, wanted to check one small thing with you - Currently when i open the 'Bird Group'Page, i get a message in the beginning of the page saying "This page is a new unreviewed article." How can we remove this message? Do we need to do something from our end or will you be removing this? Look forward to your valuable guidance.

Thanks once again for your help!

Debbie

Grammar about one sentence

Hi. I want to ask you about something.

I wrote one sentence to article Świdwin and I want to ask you if it is correct.

Until 1945 town's name was Schivelbein, but since end of World War 2 Polish borders had changed and Poland got inter alia Schivelbein. Then Schivelbein was renamed to Świdwin.

Is this sencence correct? If not, please answer and explain, what is not good.

Greetings.

--ArkadiuszEurope (talk) 16:19, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

I think...

Until 1945, the town's name was Schivelbein, but at the end of World War II the Polish borders changed, and Schivelbein became part of Poland . Later, Schivelbein was renamed to Świdwin.

Hopefully that is better, but maintains the meaning. "Inter alia" is not very common, and I thik all you mean is 'legally'; I think just "became part of" is OK.  Chzz  ►  16:47, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Hanley Castle High School

Hi Chzz. How do you know that Hanley Castle High School's IP is blocked from editing, and is it still blocked?--Kudpung (talk) 17:25, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

195.194.238.110 (talk · contribs) is blocked [4], and although I cannot confirm it is the school, it is marked as registered to WORCESTER-COUNTY-COUNCIL/JANET and may be shared by multiple users of an educational institution - and edited that specific article. So I guess it is.

Of course, the school may well have other IP addresses too.  Chzz  ►  17:35, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the prompt reply and the fully detailed info :) --Kudpung (talk) 17:43, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank semi-spam

Thanks for your support at my RfA, which has been closed as successful. Your thorough review of my contributions was much appreciated. Cheers, Nikkimaria (talk) 16:03, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Find X

“ About binomial theorem I`m teeming with a lot o` news,

With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse

” — Major-General's Song

Message at WT:FRIENDLY for you

{{tb|WT:FRIENDLY|Welcome in sections}} Ioeth (talk contribs twinkle friendly) 19:29, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

{{talkback|Drmies}}

Re: Welcome headers - Note that I tweaked {{Welcome-anon-vandal}} with an extra parameter to suppress the standard section header as I wanted to use it within a script that alternatively adds the current month & year as a heading as per user warning standard. It might be neat to have the other welcome templates optionally do similar things. Based on your comment to Drmies I've moved to always having a section header.

My monobook.js includes a set of regex options which detect if the user talk page has nothing in it (and if the user is an anon IP) and then displays a list of alternative suitable welcomes. I created this as selecting and scrolling through choices in a pop-up was a bit of a drag if you do it often. Fæ (talk) 22:06, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

That's great, actually. I've discovered the main culprit is Twinkle, and logged it as a bug, on Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Bugs. I hope we can stop it keep happening.  Chzz  ►  01:15, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

I understand some of the things you both are talking about--such as "that's great." But I don't leave automated welcomes, I just type "subst:welcome". Chzz, I read your note--typing that header above the messages is kind of a bother (but I'll try). Can that not be included in the template? Drmies (talk) 01:47, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

{{subst:welcome}} does not make a header, and I'd be too worried about changing it, because it is used by lots of programs, and they add headers, so it could cause trouble. So, if using that one, you would, really, need to add the section yourself. Or you could make your own copy of it, with added header, and {{subst:User:Drmies/w}} or wherever you put it.

That's what I, personally, do; I have my own one (which others are very welcome to use), {{subst:user:chzz/w}}. You could take a look; if you wanted, you could copy that to your own, and maybe customize it...change the piccie, whatever. Please take a look at it, in User:Chzz/w.

Alternatively, there are several other standard templates which do automatically make a heading. {{welcomeshort}}, {{welcomeSimple}}, {{welcome-personal}}, {{welcomeh}}, and probably others.

Or, you could turn on friendly in "My preferences", "gadgets", and then you'd have a 'wel' button when on user talk pages, which lets you welcome with a couple of clicks.

I hope that helps; please do ask if you have trouble, or if I can help more. Best,  Chzz  ►  02:29, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Help! I can't find the button! Drmies (talk) 02:39, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Aha--after hitting CTRL Shift R a few times, and closing and opening Firefox, it miraculously appeared. Let's see:

Welcome!

Hello Chzz, welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Our intro page contains a lot of helpful material for new users—please check it out! If you need help, visit Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on this page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Drmies (talk) 02:40, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Great!  Chzz  ►  02:53, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Alas, if only Chzz had been told about this sooner... GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 23:04, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Hee hee. It's cool though, Giftiger, it follows on from the previous thread, where we were discussing about how to use Friendly to 'welcome' - so, it was just a test :-)  Chzz  ►  23:16, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

I guessed as much, but couldn't resist commenting ;) GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 23:18, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Chzz. You have new messages at Alison's talk page.
Message added 20:19, 26 August 2010 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Tony the Curvalicious And Most Bootylicious Horse In The Whole of BB World Best Served with Horseradish Dot Com

Yeah, sorry about that. It was just a misunderstanding on my part. Rorshacma (talk) 23:37, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

No problem at all; I was half-expecting it. No worries.  Chzz  ►  23:39, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

From notes

• Note: 21:11, 12 August 2010 (UTC) Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Paul_LaViolette_(3rd_nomination) Q on user talk re accounts - deleted and SALTed. User said it's their only account [5]

• • Note: 23:42, 14 August 2010 (UTC) User_talk:Chevymontecarlo#Asbury_First account was renamed from to MVKAF (talk · contribs)

• Note: 02:21, 14 August 2010 (UTC) [02:30] TiMike (talk · contribs) how often is this page updated: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UncategorizedPages

...usually the answer is "just wait". If you need more frequent updates, longer lists, or some filter, Wikipedia:Database_reports (or the toolserver request page) is the way.

once or twice a week by a script...not random. I dont remember the exact schedual

http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Cron_jobs#QueryPage_update

the first runs once a day

the second runs once every 3 days

the first runs at 4:00 every day

the second runs at 5:00 on scheduled days

-> User_talk:Tim_Starling#Special:UncategorizedPages

• User:Chzz/cards User_talk:Gnevin#Cards_help gambling talk q

• 05:41, 14 August 2010 (UTC) Swillia9 (talk · contribs) diff explaining (blanked) warning Talk page discussion (begun)
• 07:36, 14 August 2010 (UTC) Sunni Dawat-e-Islami - I removed some; queried on my talk by Coercorash (talk · contribs) and I suggested discussion on article talk page  Chzz  ►  09:00, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

• Note: 04:46, 16 August 2010 (UTC) Annette Melton (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) [6] - I noted points that need citations etc
• User_talk:Dwayne#Proposed_deletion_of_BigTop +death template

• Note: 18:41, 14 August 2010 (UTC) Commons:user:thehelpinghand commons:File:BLAIRPEDIAn.png

• Note: 20:22, 24 August 2010 (UTC) Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Miscellaneous#Axe_identification

Ambassadors

I'm sorry, I never replied to your second message; I have thought it over again, but I really don't want to take on any more at the moment. I'll watch the scheme with interest, and might change my mind later. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 13:10, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Help:Contents/draft

and Help talk:Contents/draft; your comments would be greatly appreciated as you know much about this area. —fetch·comms 00:22, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Yep; I've added my thoughts.  Chzz  ►  11:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

New MDB Feature

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Delivered by MessageDeliveryBot on behalf of EdoDodo at 16:02, 1 September 2010 (UTC).

Euro Go TV

Chzz, thanks for your continued interest. (Back now from IOM as you see.)

May I ask a favour - that you resend me the email(s)? I don't know why I didn't receive them, but if you could retry, that would be great.

Trust you're otherwise fine & enjoying your break. Best, Trafford09 (talk) 16:08, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

I just re-sent it via 'email this user'.

If you can't find it, check junk mail. If not, let me know.  Chzz  ►  16:20, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Chzz, it came through fine, with the 3 options etc.. I'll let you know how I get on. Trafford09 (talk) 16:41, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Yep, so note he wants 'option 3' - so all you need to do (if you want) is email him, saying "regarding the pics on Wikipedia, if possible, we'd really like to use THESE (6 or so?)" so please send us back the copyright release text with those pics listed" - use the URLS for the pics.

That's what I suggest anyway; just ask for a few, and then we are 'in contact' and can always ask for more later. Best,  Chzz  ►  17:03, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Alexis Cohen

I have nominated Alexis Cohen, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alexis Cohen (2nd nomination). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Spartaz ^Humbug! 06:01, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Hm; I moved a redirect , or something, but I'm not sure; the history is odd, maybe someone has been deleting / restoring revisions. The article was apparently (re-?)written by 12.196.37.227 (talk · contribs) and/or 98.151.53.27 (talk · contribs), I think...was rejected in AFC several times ('Wrong venue' because SALTed and...erm. Finally accepted today by Ctjf83 (talk · contribs). Hm. I'll investigate. Chzz  ►  09:53, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

History now fixed; creator was 76.95.12.106 (talk · contribs) so I'm copying this notice over to their page.  Chzz  ►  09:04, 5 September 2010 (UTC)