Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-04-26/Special report

Latest comment: 1 year ago by True Pagan Warrior in topic Discuss this story

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  • Statistics "between" 2005 and 2022 would not include statistics from either year. These are actually statistics from 2005 through 2022.~TPW 14:13, 26 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
    • @True Pagan Warrior:
      Query~ ResultsRatio
      from 2020 to 2022~602,000 results (google)~67.488%
      between 2020 and 2022~290,000 results (google)~32.511%
      --Dušan Kreheľ (talk) 21:57, 26 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
      If an online search isn't good enough for sourcing, I'm not convinced it's good enough for definitions, either. ~TPW 01:21, 27 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
      @True Pagan Warrior: So formal and colloquial English … Dušan Kreheľ (talk) 02:11, 27 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
      "colloquial" presumes a particular audience, which isn't realistic for a news article on one of the most widely-used sites on the internet. Precision is more inclusive. ~TPW 13:41, 27 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
  • The book Common Errors in English Usage – cited several times in Common English usage misconceptions – does not agree with TPW's complaint. Prof. Brians says "Between 1939 and 1945" is better written as "1939–1945", but they mean the same thing. ☆ Bri (talk) 04:28, 27 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
  • "Home Wiki" is a meaningless data point. A user's "home wiki" is wherever they created their account, and has nothing to do with what they consider their main project. This data point is why English Wikipedia always appears to have such a huge proportion of global editors, while the number of edits on English Wikipedia has a much smaller proportion of total global edits. (As an example, the majority of active contributors to projects like Wikisource, Wikiversity, Wikinews, Wiktionary have their language's Wikipedia project listed as their "home wiki".) This is a data point built into the MediaWiki system, and it is apparently extremely complex to modify this. Wearing my Movement Charter Drafting Committee hat, we are actively working with the WMF to modify polling software so that users can select their "voting wiki" from all projects for which they have met activity criteria, so that it is more likely to give us a better and more accurate perception of the opinions of individual projects. The MCDC has published its "early draft" of the ratification process here and invites editors from all projects to participate in the discussion. Risker (talk) 19:28, 26 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
I'm not so sure. When a user goes to www.wikipedia.org, they choose a language, which may become their "home wiki". You don't think that has anything to do with which language they prefer to utilize? Lacking any other information I don't see this as a poor default choice for reporting (especially informal reporting like this). ☆ Bri (talk) 19:49, 26 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
@Risker: For me, partial results are better than none at all. Maybe it shouldn't be taken so seriously. Do we have something better (rhetorical question)? In Special:Contributions, the "homa wiki" indicator could be characterized in one or two sentences, with its pluses and minuses. --Dušan Kreheľ (talk) 21:57, 26 April 2023 (UTC)Reply