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Samoan Scouting

Can someone help render Be Prepared, the Scout Motto, into Samoan? Thanks! Chris 03:53, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Rename and expansion

Description

I propose to expand the now-inactive Wikipedia:WikiProject American Samoa into Wikipedia:WikiProject Samoa to be more inclusive of both Samoas and all Samoan-topics. Including the independent nation, with three times the population, would improve (and perhaps save) the existing Project. Not to mention the large Samoan diaspora, Los Angeles being the largest Samoan city, as well as notables who have come from the culture, like The Rock, Sosene Anesi...

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Chris 04:00, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Comments

You could request that the project change its scope, and, if whatever response you got was affirmative and sufficient, change the existing project page, templates, blah blah blah. At that point, you could start tagging the articles of the new broader scope and try to get members that way. Listing it on the Community Portal would probably work too. But you really should get the approval of the project itself before making such changes. Of course, if others were to join the project and agree to the changes, no one could argue that. John Carter 22:12, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Happy to be involved if this gets off the ground. By the way, Auckland claims to be the largest Samoan city. I wonder which is in reality. --CloudSurfer 04:45, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

That's a good question, I wonder if there is a Samoan diaspora article? Chris 06:13, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

There's just a little stub at Samoan American. Where could we get stats? Chris 06:15, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

I also found Category:Samoan New Zealanders and Category:Samoan Americans Chris 06:27, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

I have given you the wrong information. Auckland claims to be largest Polynesian city and it includes 13% of its population (1.3M) as Pacific Islanders, including Samoans. 12% are Maori. I don't know the breakdowns and I have no idea of the Samoan population of LA. However, most in LA would come from Am Samoa which now has a pop of 65K while most in Auckland would come from Samoa which now has a pop of 220K. Anyway, interesting stuff. A diaspora article would be interesting. There are other models for this listed in diaspora. --CloudSurfer 07:06, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

The NZ Statistics site lists a total of 115,017 Samoans from the 2001 census. I can't find a city breakdown however I think a disproportionately high number live in Auckland. --CloudSurfer 07:30, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it be moved. Once a few people decide that the change in scope is desirable, it should be simple enough to move the page across. --Stemonitis 11:49, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Chris, I do really understand your intentions to bring back activity on the Wikiproject American Samoa by your proposal to expand it into a Wikiproject Samoa. But, I refuse to participate because I do believe the current Wikiproject is for American Samoa in particular, and that is why it was created as such. There will be American Samoans, US Nationals and US Citizens affiliated with this US territory who will eventually help this current Wikiproject in the future. Yes, it is inactive and I do not see any reason to change its scope and objectives just to make it active in a hurry. --Weekeejames 10:36, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

It's not a matter of "making it active in a hurry", it's a matter of keeping it from being deleted. Very well. I wash my hands of trying to save it. Chris 21:04, 17 August 2007 (UTC)