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Lalu Yadav article

Moved from Talk:Hinduism

Dear Sirs/Mesdames,

I hereby urge you to take a look at the article Lalu Prasad Yadav, the notoriously corrupt Indian politician, although strictly speaking it is not a part of Hinduism. The article has been single-handedly managed by User:Ikonoblast, who seems to be a goon of Lalu. He has changed the article to a highly POV, non-neutral version. The article is unencyclopedic and look like an eulogy written in the praise of Lalu. His misdeeds, his illiterate wife and corruption cases have been trivialized/ignored, and people making fun of Lalu have been interpreted to be highlighting his "charismatic" character. The article seems to be a lobbying pamphlet to put forth Lalu as the next PM of India. I have tried to make some corrections, removed praises etc but my schedule just doesn't permit me enough time. Please take some time to edit this article WITH SUITABLE REFERENCES. Thanks, Cygnus_hansa 03:00, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

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Moved from Talk:India

Dear Sirs/Mesdames,

I hereby urge you to take a look at the article Lalu Prasad Yadav, the notoriously corrupt Indian politician, although strictly speaking it is not a part of India article. The article has been single-handedly managed by User:Ikonoblast, who seems to be a devotee of Lalu. He has changed the article to a highly POV, non-neutral version. The article is unencyclopedic and look like an eulogy written in the praise of Lalu. His misdeeds, his illiterate wife and corruption cases have been trivialized/ignored, and people making fun of Lalu have been interpreted to be highlighting his "charismatic" character. The article seems to be a lobbying pamphlet to put forth Lalu as the next PM of India. I have tried to make some corrections, removed praises etc but my schedule just doesn't permit me enough time. Please take some time to edit this article WITH SUITABLE REFERENCES. Thanks, Cygnus_hansa 03:03, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

PS: I have added illiteracy as a problem in India article in the intro. Thats how such people get elected in the first place.Cygnus_hansa 03:04, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Not a fan of Laloo, nor have I read the said article, but would be better if you too try to be more neutral yourself. Illitracy is a problem in India, but it is not the only reason for bad leaders. We have enough "literate" leaders who are corrupt too. Dont wish to name people, but the previous CM of Tamil Nadu is a good example.

Suggest you read more about the said person, as the CM, or as the Railway minister, where incidentally he seems to be winning accolades. His negatve must be mentioned, but so should the positive. He is afterall no different from other politicans in India, litrate, or illitrate.AJ-India 21:03, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

It seems that people like you might make Lalu one day the PM of India.Cygnus_hansa 01:34, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

It's not me, but the people of India as a whole, who decide, who becomes the Prime Minister. Stop having a stereo type image of things, Indian politics (as is the case worldwide) is driven by leaders who can deliver, not by predefined notions of a good leader. And to that effect, all our leaders fall in that catagory, be it the "litterate" ones, or the "illiterate" ones. Wnen they deliver, they get re-elected, when they dont, they loose. And deliver here simply means satisfying the voters. The person in question, (of whom I am no fan,as I stated) has delivered, as a railway Minister, by turning it around. So as much as you, I, or for that matter anyone else, would like to deny him that credit, it goes to him, for that is how it works. If you blame the leaders for the state of affairs, when bad, they take the credit when they are good, simple.AJ-India 17:18, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

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Cygnus_hansa, that's a very crude and personal remark to Arejay. He's right, see WP:NPA, and the clauses of WP:BIO. =Nichalp «Talk»= 07:49, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Nichalp - did you mean A-Jay?? Sarvagnya 20:04, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

AJ-India, I don't deny that he has taken signifcantly good steps as a Railway Minister, or, at least, is doing his normal duty. But this does not give anyone the licence to ignore the past and write a Wikipedia article as his eulogy. Compare it to any politician's article: Atal Bihari Vajpayee, Jawaharlal Nehru, George Bush, Idi Amin, etc etc. You'll find great difference in style and content. This is my whole point, that the article is not written in Wikipedia's style. From your view, I think there seems to be a nice "liberal" view rising in India, who think "Aweeeeeee", "O my God"...."we thought this guy was so stupid and uneducated, and he has done such things to Indian railway....we should give him a chance to be in even a greater position, despite all his ills in the past."Cygnus_hansa 20:23, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Cygnus_hansa, if you feel that the Lalu Prasad Yadav is written as a hagiography you are welcome to rewrite it in a more neutral style (with references) and even invite other editors to help. However as an experienced editor here you should know that spamming unrelated pages (such as Hinduism, India) and insulting other editors (e.g. [1]), not only violates wikipedia policies but also doesn't reflect well on you. Regards. Abecedare 20:34, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Abecedare, magicalsaumy is a competent 'admin on hindi wikipedia, he does know the rules and knows what he is talking about. User:Ikonoblast is perhaps the worst troll I have ever encountered on wikipedia, and believe me, I have met many of them.Bakaman 23:27, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

An admin should know better. Having posted such a rude comment and not apologising doesn't reflect well on him, irrespective of who he's dealing with. =Nichalp «Talk»= 06:51, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

India Poised

This is a request to all members who think they can make a good userbox to make a new userbox on the "idea" started by The Times of India called "India Poised" . It could probably say something like :
I Believe
I believe in India Poised where "India Poised" should be a link to an article on the same . This means we should all begin contributing to an article with the name "India Poised" . Please reply with your ideas and userboxe ,if any . --Nishantsharma87 10:09, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Please see [[WP:NOR], WP:NOT. The article on India poised should the written about the ToI series, not for the series. =Nichalp «Talk»= 16:17, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Konkani Wikipedia

The Konkani Wikipedia has been in existence on Wikimedia Incubator since August 2006; but is sufferering from a lack of contributions. Till now it has been the singlehanded effort of User:Fredricknoronha. I request all Konkani Wikipedians to please contribute to this efforts. We need people to translate existing articles from the English Wikipeida, to create new articles , to transliterate articles from one script/dialect to another, images etc.

Regards --Deepak D'Souza 11:39, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Will this be in Devnagiri or Romanised? =Nichalp «Talk»= 12:11, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Ideally it should be in Kannada script as that is the script that a large majority of native Konkani speakers use. Anyway, where is this Konkani WP? Is there one? I cant find it. Sarvagnya 16:41, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

All three I think because many wikipedias use more than one language like Turkmen and kashmiri.Bakaman 01:07, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Can you link us to the wikipedia? The Silent Contributor 05:27, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot to check up this thing. The problem is , it is on incubator. Heres the link:

incubator:wp/kok/ --Deepak D'Souza 10:02, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Dream Budget

I started an article on Chidambaram's Dream Budget of 97-98. Help from anyone interested in finance, economics, budgets, etc. to expand the article is most welcome. - Aksi_great (talk) 18:04, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

overhaul

Category:Tamil Americans,, Category:Keralite americans, etc. I believe that the cats should be upmerged to Category:Indian Americans and Category:Sri Lankan Americans and the ethnicites be upmerged to Category:Tamil politicians, Category:Marathi writers, Category:Malayali scientists, etc.

An example, Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar would have cats Category:Tamil scientists, Category:Indian Americans, instead of Tamil Americans, Indian Americans, Tamil scientists, etc.Bakaman 01:06, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Red rain in Kerala

I am currently working on getting Red rain in Kerala upto featured status for the April fools main page article (yes, thats only 4 weeks!), the artile is GA standard at the minute, so there won't be a massive work load. Could I have a few volunteers who would be willing to help me with this? RyanPostlethwaite^{See the mess I've created or let's have banter} 15:32, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I can critique it. =Nichalp «Talk»= 16:10, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I just glanced at the article and the subject looks very interesting. I'll be glad to be of any help. One quick point though: Most of the images in the article are copyrighted and used under the Fair use criteria; I wonder if the will be a problem for WP:WIAFA and a stronger justification for use will be required... Abecedare 19:23, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

That is one concern we'll have to get over, we'll have to reduce the number of picures I think in the article, however, I don't think its amajor hurdle, have you gotany idea's on how we move forward? RyanPostlethwaite^{See the mess I've created or let's have banter} 19:40, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

A lot of Fair-use images appear on the talk page. They should be removed as soon as possible. — Ambuj Saxena (☎) 11:10, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Consider using charts, diagrams, maps and tables as substitutes instead of just images. We can draw them if you need. =Nichalp «Talk»= 11:48, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Try scouring the following domains for more information:

• gov.in
• nic.in
• ernet.in
• gov

=Nichalp «Talk»= 17:40, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

IAST

Do we have a set policy on the addition of IAST for an article? =Nichalp «Talk»= 15:40, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

These are the conventions I am aware of: for Indic articles and for Dharmic articles. Although there doesn't yet seem to be universal agreement on the issue, especially in Hinduism related articles; see for example this discussion. Abecedare 21:51, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

After Times of india, it is Vijay Times

After Times of India, it is Vijay Times which is plagiarizing Wikipedia articles and images. Most of today's Sunday supplement was plagarised verbatim from wikipedia articles. What more, even the images were used were taken from wikipedia. There was a series on World's largest empires and there were articles on Roman Empire, Mongol Empire and a few Indian empires. Most parts of Mongol and Roman empires articles were almost completely taken taken from wikipedia ([2] and [3]) , where as all the images used for Indian empire articles were from wikipedia ([4]). -- Naveen ^(talk) 15:12, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Vijay Times is now part of the Times of India group, so this is possibly a sign of TOI culture :-) -- Naveen ^(talk) 15:12, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Please report this to Administrator's noticeboard for a larger audience, and a possible remedy. Thanks. --Ragib 15:20, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

User:Shmitra reported more such blatant plagiarism from Satyajit Ray. I have reported this to the ANB. This needs to be publicized to make Times of India listen. --Ragib 01:42, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

In those Vijay Times links that Naveen's posted above, apart from plagiarising WP, some content is also picked verbatim from another site. This I found out after just picking one string at random and googling. Guess the whole article is plagiarised from various sources. Sarvagnya 03:58, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Major changes to Portal:India suggested

Hi all,

I have proposed some major changes to Portal:India. Please review/discuss. — Ambuj Saxena (☎) 16:02, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[Message for WP India] Kingbotk Plugin

A quick overview for newcomers: The Kingbotk Plugin is a set of add-on tools for the wiki editor, AWB. In bot mode it offers robust templating for WikiProjects. In manual mode, it can also be used to help editors assess articles quickly and efficiently.

Per requests, myself and Reedy Boy (talk · contribs) have just released a new version of the Kingbotk Plugin which is compatible with the latest AWB. To make things even easier, the plugin now ships with AWB. You may also have noticed my bot running over the last few days, testing the new version.

Since your WikiProject is one of the few which are programatically supported it's important that you inform us of any important changes to your WikiProject's template which have occurred in the last few months.

• The most important change we should know about is new redirects to your template. If your template could possibly be used on talk pages with a different name unknown to the plugin, double templating could result. Please take the time to check for redirects to your project's template - somebody might have created one without you noticing.
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I hope you still find the tool useful. Comments, questions and bug reports to User talk:Kingbotk/Plugin. Cheers. --kingboyk 17:49, 4 March 2007 (UTC) PS I hope to have a new revision (version 1 release candidate 2) ready later today, for shipping with the next AWB release.

Re:Times of India

Lo fellas,

I'm doing a blog article on plagiarism by Times of India. How would ya guys like to have ToI have exposed on http://www.desipundit.com . I'm counting on this article to be read by guys at Indian Express... I ofcourse need a coupla more of our diffs lifted by Bennet and Coleman Co. Amey Aryan DaBrood^© 05:52, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

See http://deepakkrishnan.blogspot.com/2007/02/plagiarism-by-times-of-india.html from last month. I anonymously added our links in the comments today. Tintin 05:55, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Shyam Lal Meena

Is this article located in the right place? Is it a conflation of info about two different people with similar names? I'm not very familiar with the way Indian names work, and when I stumbled across this stub and went looking for sources to verify/expand it, I found some confusion about the name. This gov't page listing the Arjuna Award winners gives the name of the 1989 archery winner as just "Shyam Lal", as does this article on the archery team, and this article refers to the award winner as "Shyam Lal Salwan" (unless he's the Shyam Lal who won it for gymnastics in 1961). Can anyone shed some light on this? -Hit bull, win steak^(Moo!) 17:12, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

B. C. Khanduri

B. C. Khanduri needs a bit of copyediting and reformatting of the article structure. --Gurubrahma 06:25, 8 March 2007 (UTC) (and I go back into hibernation)

2006 Noida serial murder investigation

I have been editing this page since a few days and no one, yes, no one has even tried to edit the article and make it better. It has also been recognised by as an article of low importance by certain users. This is a a very recent event! Would there be anyone interested to work along with me on this article? Thanks for assistance, Zamkudi 13:36, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Indian administrator mentioned on BBC National Radio

Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington (talk · contribs) was mentioned on BBC National Radio. Here's the link: [5] Happy editing! – riana_dzasta 14:57, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Wow - Thanks for informing. --Bhadani 15:18, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Haha, his name appears near the end of the broadcast. It is about Conservapedia, whose founders believe that Wikipedia is an anti-Christian and anti-American encyclopedia despite our Neutral Point of View Policy! Gizza^{Chat ©} 05:51, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

As usual, I reserve the right to disappoint you. . --Bhadani 18:16, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Nobleeagle

Can anyone explain what's going on? — Ambuj Saxena (☎) 07:51, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

He was chased off wikipedia by esteemed contributors to the project.Bakaman 05:14, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

If DBachmann had anything to do with his departure, I am certain that Noblers would not leave a polite argument like this in dab's user page after having messaged multiple admins of his intention to quit Wikipedia. Tintin 05:30, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

The noble part of nobleeagle explains this.Bakaman 05:34, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Contrary's to Baka's beliefs, from my understanding Nobleeagle did not leave because of any edit-war or argument. He left because of User:Damareinu who revealed some of Noble's personal information on Wikipedia (During the past few days, I occasionally checked Noble's talk page which was on my watchlist. I found a couple of instances when I saw Damareinu expose personal info). And of course, the personal information can no longer be seen in the history because it was deleted. As Tintin said, he wouldn't leave a discussion unfinished if those were his reasons for leaving. Gizza^{Chat ©} 09:25, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Yep, that's definitely the reason. See this and this. He has caused another user to leave. Something should be done about this. Gizza^{Chat ©} 09:25, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

If that's the case, then why is the block log of User:Damareinu clean? According to WP:BLOCK, people revealing personal details can be blocked indefinitely. — Ambuj Saxena (☎) 09:51, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

This is a discussion for administrators. Can we take this to the admin noticeboard? - WP:ANI. ⋆Zamkudi⋆(talk)⋆ 09:53, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

I think it would be best if this were reported to ANI. — Ambuj Saxena (☎) 09:59, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Reported on the administrator noticeboard. ⋆Zamkudi⋆(talk)⋆ 10:15, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your report! Justice needs to be served for these two innocent users. Gizza^{Chat ©} 11:07, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Update: Those edits have been oversighted. =Nichalp «Talk»= 04:04, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia article

The Statesman reproduced on its first page an article regarding Wikipedia, from the The Independent, UK. Here is the link. [6]. Best wishes to all. -- P.K.Niyogi 03:59, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Funny. Hate speech. :) ⋆Zamkudi⋆(talk)⋆ 09:55, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia has an entire article devoted to this sad event. I've heard that this story has also appeared in the Indian Express. - Aksi_great (talk) 08:29, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

CFD Spamming

Wiki Raja (talk · contribs) (see contribs for a string of spam solicitations) has been spamming for CFD votes and attacking me for CFD'ing a cat. See [7],[8],[9],[10],[11]. And then a string of attacks on me [12],[13],[14],[15],[16] . The cfd's in question are Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2007_March_9#Category:Tamil_Americans. There is a relevant post on ANI on this as well, but I thought id post on the noticeboard. What strikes me is that one ethnocentrist and one anti-Hindu troll think their ethnic groups are so special relative to the hundreds in the Indian subcontinent.Bakaman 16:34, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

There are a large amount of socks voting like Dravidian Warrior (talk · contribs), Tamilguy07 (talk · contribs), Jhynnyrj (talk · contribs), 129.219.218.3 (talk · contribs) and 68.108.208.158 (talk · contribs) on the respective CFD's for Category:Keralite americans and Category:Tamil Americans.Bakaman 19:58, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

I have blocked Tamilguy07 and Dravidian Warrior. Jhynnyrj does not exist. Anons cannot vote for deletions. =Nichalp «Talk»= 07:17, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

There is a typo in Jhnnyrj's name above. Jhnnyrj (talk · contribs) - KNM ^Talk 07:25, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I have blocked Jhnnyrj. - Aksi_great (talk) 07:58, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Golden Temple

The article title is Harimandir Sahib. As the Golden Temple is by far the most popular name for the shrine, should it be moved? I support the move. =Nichalp «Talk»= 08:34, 10 March 2007 (UTC) Discussion moved to Talk:Harimandir Sahib#Move to Golden Temple. =Nichalp «Talk»= 10:08, 10 March 2007 (UTC) Move request placed on Wikipedia:Requested moves#March 10, 2007 =Nichalp «Talk»= 10:08, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Update on CFD

Category:Keralite americans was deleted, so was Category:Bengali-American. Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2007_March_9#Category:Tamil_Americans is up for CFD, as it is the only one of its kind in South Asia, Indian Ocean, or SW Asia, that elevates a linguistic group to the level of national and religious immigration.Bakaman 00:28, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

LostBot

I have restarted the bot for tagging WP:India. Kingboy/Reedy Boy have added the new subprojects to the plugin and I have started with Category:Protected areas of India. Please let me know if anybody sees the bot acting funny — Lost^(talk) 23:46, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

New articles list

We should get User:AlexNewArtBot to update the articles in the new article list. More info can be found here. --122.162.73.195 (Shreshth91) 06:53, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

IMO we should use it. As of now our new article list is absolutely depending on the knowledge of the user that such a thing exists, and also the user's wish to put it there. One problem, the list may turn out to be too big to accommodate in the main notice board. May be a dedicated page will be needed, like featured content page. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 05:16, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Congrats Bhadani, Sundar and Ganesh!

You guys are famous now!!! — Lost^(talk) 18:09, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Wow, great! congrats.--Dwaipayan (talk) 18:22, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 23:06, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations. -- P.K.Niyogi 05:57, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Congrats!! Who says hard work doesn't pay off in the end? The Silent Contributor 07:01, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations you three! :) Glad to know I pushed 66% of them to adminship. :-) =Nichalp «Talk»= 08:36, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

That's amazing! I wonder if in the future more and more of us will be discussed about :) Gizza^{Chat ©} 09:08, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

That's brilliant! Congrats guys! You're Wikicelebrities now, you should start handing out autographs. :P. In response to Gizza, Ambroodey wrote an article on Indo-Pak relations on Wiki on a blog some time ago. If Wiki continues to expand, such requests for arbitration may be covered slighlty and briefly in small newspapers, as it does represent an attempt to reach a resolution between Indians and Pakistanis on the world's best source of information and knowledge. — Nobleeagle ^[TALK] [C] 09:20, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Way too cool! congrats! --hydkat 13:07, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes. I thank you all and the credit goes to wikipedia and the wikipedia community. Perhaps, the event [17] which was reported a day earlier on the front page in a newspaper with a readership of more than 3 million, is slated for more coverage in the Indian print and electronic media including the Economic Times and the India Today and possibly in the Business Today. Podcasts are expected in a day or two and flickr has many pictures of the event: [18] - [19]. Gizza, you are right. In days and months to come, more and more wikipedians shall be discussed about. BTW, more than 300 persons attended the event at one of the most prestigious IT destinations [20] of India and the event was extensively covered by the press. Jimmy liked to be mobbed [21] by the current and future wikipedians :) One thing more, an Indian wikipedian, Chauhan flew in from Chandigarh to Chennai to attend the WikiCamp . --Bhadani 10:06, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Did Chauhan discuss the fortunes of the Indian cricket team? :) Blnguyen (bananabucket) 23:58, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi Blnguyen. I found Chauhan very silent and we remained together for most of the day. He is a cricket player but Wikipedia and Jimmy's presence kept him in "order" and he did not play cricket in the audotorium though balls were availble in abundance [22]. You and all others shall be able to listen to my voice for about four minutes within next 24 to 48 hours through a podcast here. --Bhadani 16:35, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

With so much events/sessions happening around at Wikicamp and Bhadani-Ji being a sought after celebrity there (just after Jimbo Wales), we could not discuss anything at length thus Bhadani-Ji found me a very silent person. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vjdchauhan (talk • contribs) on 12.03.07

Blnguyen lets see how our warhorses (Tendulkar, Sehwag, Dravid) perform in real matches (knockout stages) in Worldcup, so more on Indian cricket "stars" later :) Vjdchauhan 10:33, 12 March 2007 (UTC). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vjdchauhan (talk • contribs) on 12.03.07

It seems Chauhan did not sign as he was playing cricket :) --Bhadani 17:06, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Is the podcast gone already? I couldnt find it on the site — Lost^(talk) 08:48, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

By the way, look how far Bhadani has gone since he started off editing Mahuri in a very non-encyclopaedic style. :P [23] — Nobleeagle ^[TALK] [C] 08:55, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi Lost. Podcast is not lost. It will become live late tonight, and the the links by them are sent to around 25,000 boxes round the globe apart from being available at their site. The podcast is of about 18 minutes, mostly by Jimmy and Kribs and about 4 minutes by me. Thanks noble. --Bhadani 12:20, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

These are active now: So spoke Jimmy, Kribs & Bhadani & Wiki-power. --Bhadani 18:25, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Is transcript available for these Podcasts somewhere. Vjdchauhan 05:53, 13 March 2007 (UTC).

Something nice about user Ganeshk here [24].Congrats.Shyamsunder 16:32, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Just for the sake of sharing the information - Business Today (of India Today group) of 25th March, 2007 carries a picture on page 18 which shows five wikipedians and has a one page article about wiki and wikipedia. The picture was taken during the above event. --Bhadani 16:06, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Economy of Himachal Pradesh

I have completed my work on economy of Himachal. Please take a look at my work if possible. Thanks Sushant gupta 06:08, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

It's a good start but needs more content and references. =Nichalp «Talk»= 17:40, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Excimer Laser!!

Who exactly is the inventor of the excimer laser 1) Mani Lal Bhaumik (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mani_Lal_Bhaumik) which is part of today's featured article on the Wikipedia English Main Page or 2) Dr.Rangaswamy Srinivasan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excimer_laser). I'm just a curious corrector and hope someone with more experience looks into it.

Champak —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.221.175.235 (talk) 09:43, 16 March 2007 (UTC).

You might get an answer at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Science =Nichalp «Talk»= 15:50, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Indian and Bangladeshi perspective on Wikipedia Weekly

Check this out! User:Rama's Arrow and User:Ragib talk to User:Witty lama on the Wikipedia Weekly, the weekly audio podcast. -- Ganeshk (talk) 00:02, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, I thought I'd post it, but Ganesh has already done this. Anyway, it was cool to hear Rama's arrow for the first time ... I've been in touch with him via Wikipedia for quite some time ... but this was the first time I heard him. :) --Ragib 02:24, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Excellent chat. Thanks Rama and Ragib. You have brought out the status of wikipedia in South Asia perfectly. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 04:52, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Awesome!! It really felt great listening to the both of you. - Aksi_great (talk) 12:16, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Wow! --Bhadani 16:13, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Just heard it.. Nice job guys... — Lost^(talk) 15:44, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

I am late! Just heard it. Novel experience. -- P.K.Niyogi 03:15, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

It was pretty cool talking to them too! I'm amazed at all the stuff that's going on in South Asia related to WP - and their dedication is honourable! If anyone has suggestions as to content for upcoming editions, please feel free to comment at the project page. Witty lama 15:26, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Education of Himachal Pradesh

Hi, right know I am doing my work on education of Himachal. Would anyone love to accompany me. It is really difficult for only me to complete all the topics. If anyone is interested then kindly add up your name in the participant section of Himachal Workgroup and whenever you would be starting any new page then kindly mention it in the list of recent additions. It makes the page more accessible. Thanks Sushant gupta 04:16, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Indian FAs on front page

The Indian FAs are being discussed here again:) — Lost^(talk) 08:14, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale

Bhindranwale is a highly controversial figure in the rift between Hindus and Sikhs, and there has been a lot of personal attacks, POV pushing, etc. in the article in the past. Can I get some people to help me work on the article? A few editors did a complete rewrite from the Sikh glorification view to a more neutral POV a few months ago, but after looking at it a bit more closely, the article seems to take the view of he-is-a-terrorist-and-nothing-more. A lot of sources can be found, but it's difficult to choose what source to use when there's a lot of extreme bias on either side regarding Bhindranwale. Any help is appreciated. Nishkid64 19:03, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Indian People workgroup

What do other editors feel about creating a descendant-workgroup for "Indian people" or something? There appear to be workgroups for everything else, is there any merit to include Indian people? Ekantik ^talk 01:37, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Could you define the scope of the project? "Peoples of India" would be a good name for the project. =Nichalp «Talk»= 11:05, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually I realised that what I had in mind was already covered by WP:BIOGRAPHY so it would have been pointless to set something up for Indian people (setting up a separate Indian workgroup as a descendant of WP:BIOGRAPHY is another matter). But don't let me stop you if you've got the inspiration to take it further! "Peoples of India" sounds much more promising and full of potential; ideas around this could centre on the tribals and other indigenous people of India, articles created about them, etc. Sounds great! Do you think it is a good idea? Ekantik ^talk 02:00, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I was thinking on those lines to include tribals, ethnic groups etc, including surnames such as Yadavs, Singhs etc. =Nichalp «Talk»= 16:52, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Are there any similar projects on Wikipedia (not including WP:BIO)?Bakaman 02:31, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

No idea really, I wouldn't even know where to ask. Although I don't think that such an idea is outside Wikipedia's scope. From my own knowledge I know that Yanomamo Sanema are a South American tribal people and there is a Yanomami article about them (check out the categories for that article by the way), so I suppose there's no bar to doing the same about Indian tribespeople and others as per Nichalp. I've seen some articles such as Bunt (community) so I suppose such articles would be within the scope of a "Peoples of India" workgroup. Regards Ekantik ^talk 02:36, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Hopefully it will be created in a way that prevents recurrent disruptive problems arising out of confusions between the "Republic of India", "India", the "Indian subcontinent", "South Asia", etc. We have Jats, Rajputs, etc in Pakistan, Yadavs in Nepal, Tamils in Sri Lanka, and so on. deeptrivia (talk) 23:36, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Wiki Project Gangetic Plains

On the lines for Wiki Projects for different states, I wish to start a Wiki Project Gangetic Plains for the states of Uttar Pradesh and Bihar. Or maybe we should strictly have only state-oriented WikiProjects?

I request the interested people to please reply so that we can demand the same. I am just 2 months old on Wiki and I need immense co-operation. Thanks. Maquahuitl 08:57, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm against it. It does not have a proper scope in the first place. Gangetic plains include much more than UP and Bihar and will in essence be duplicating efforts and fragmenting user bases. =Nichalp «Talk»= 09:20, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I am talking about "Gangetic Plains" not "Indo-Gangetic Plains". Anyway name is not an issue. I basically wished to start a WP UP but on second thoughts realised that it can be extended to Bihar as well under the mentioned name. Since WP Bengal is already there I don't think that there is any other state which comes under "Gangetic Plains" Maquahuitl 20:02, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Bangladesh is almost completely a part of the Gangetic plains. deeptrivia (talk) 23:41, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok forget the name Gangetic Plains. I just want to have a WP UP.Maquahuitl

Natural History of South Asia mailing list

This India related Article is being considered for deletion, kindly have a look when you have some time, Wikipedia is taking Votes for Deleting it or Keeping it, please do improve the article if possible:

• Relisted after first Deletion Review for Second time as AFD, Votes being taken for Deletion or Keep.
• First Deletion Review, Please clisk on "SHOW" against the article name.
• First time around at AFD - Article for Deletion

Thanks Atulsnischal 12:36, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Free Images

Hello. Recently, an editor asked me to help him copyedit an article on Sai Kumar (which I have done). He also requested me to find an image of the actor. I tried searching Flickr though I could not find an image. Could someone with knowledge in this area, direct me to website(s) where I can use an image that conforms to Wikipedia liscensing standards? Anyone's assistance would be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance. With regards, Anupam^Talk 04:07, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Free images for Indian celebrities are rarely available. You can try the searching for creative commons licences on http://creativecommons.org and see what turns up. Else, you would need to contact the copyright holders and request them to release it under wikipedia allowed licences. =Nichalp «Talk»= 06:18, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Education of Himachal Pradesh

My work on education of himachal is completed. Kindly see to it. Thanks Sushant gupta 06:48, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Dappaankuthu

Funny article. Sadly, OR. I just put it up for speedy. But thought, people should take a look at it once. Sarvagnya 21:12, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

OR is not a speedy criterion. The article has been around since 2005 and people like Rama's Arrow, AppleJuggler, Chezhian have contributed to it. I dont think it qualifies for speedy at all — Lost^(talk) 22:05, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

AFDed it. Sarvagnya 16:20, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

The article as it was written had no sources and without finding references in a library that an anthropologists had written, it want have any sources. What it is a stub for now and I urge all India related editors to take a look at it. A stub on that subject matter is encyclopedic not a full fledged article yet. Thanks RaveenS 16:50, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Category:Indian diaspora

Interesting discussion taking place at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2007_March_18#Category:Indian_immigrants_to_Canada as to whether the Category:Indo-Canadians category should be split into categories for "People of Indian descent" and "Indian expatriates in Canada", "Indian immigrants to Canada", "Anglo Indian migrants to Canada", etc.Bakaman 23:16, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

velama

Hi, this article appears to be having problems so I tagged it and added it to the cleanup section of the to-do list. Shortly later an anon user removed it from the list. Dunno if some due process wasn't followed, so here's a mention here. Potatoswatter 08:04, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Yuck, needs to be cleaned up. =Nichalp «Talk»= 09:21, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I have proposed some ideas for cleaning up the article here. Would appreciate feedback/counter-proposals. Abecedare 05:40, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Mr India World 2007

While checking out this story and updating Suman Ranganathan because of it, it made me wonder if the Mr India World (2007) contest was worth a page or more wrt notability? Google News is covering it, and I noticed that the Times of India have devoted a special section to it as well as some other sites. Any takers? Ekantik ^talk 01:51, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Also, is there any demand for the creation of separate workgroups to cover Indian beauty pageants, given that so many Indian actors/actresses past and present were formerly models or pageant contestants/winners? Ekantik ^talk 01:51, 21 March 2007 (UTC)